GOP'ish candidates

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by randolph

When all of these idiots crash in flames, my bet is that waiting in the wings is Jeb Bush. He is an intelligent experienced politician with a Hispanic wife and of course he is a member of the bush dynasty.
Also, he is the one who could beat Obama.

After the 2010 routing of the democrats as a result of BO's, Pelosi's & Reid's agenda you'd have to wonder how BO has any chance in 2012. But on the other hand, I know it will be difficult... not sure why. I guess because BO somehow got elected in the first place.

[transjen]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

After the 2010 routing of the democrats as a result of BO's, Pelosi's & Reid's agenda you'd have to wonder how BO has any chance in 2012. But on the other hand, I know it will be difficult... not sure why. I guess because BO somehow got elected in the first place.

An we all see how well that worked out

they are the least productive house of reps of all time and cost us out top credit rating by almost shutting down the goverment and refusing to make any kind of deal what so even
BO has an excellent chance of a second term and the chances improve when the remaining for bozos only answer is trickle down cut taxes and bring out the Reagan playbook in other words lets go back to the same policies that started this mess to start with
Face the cold hard facts the whole GOP strongly believe in closing your eyes and hoping things fix themselves
Jerseygirl Jen

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by transjen

An we all see how well that worked out

they are the least productive house of reps of all time and cost us out top credit rating by almost shutting down the goverment and refusing to make any kind of deal what so even

Jen, it's time to wake up. What I'm about to show you may come as a shock, but it's from the real world.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7746VF20110806

The downgrade reflects our opinion that the fiscal consolidation plan that Congress and the Administration recently agreed to falls short of what, in our view, would be necessary to stabilize the government's medium-term debt dynamics.

The article goes on to say:

On August 2, President Barack Obama signed legislation designed to reduce the fiscal deficit by $2.1 trillion over 10 years. But that was well short of the $4 trillion in savings S&P had called for as a good "down payment" on fixing America's finances.

That's why we lost our AAA credit rating - because we didn't cut enough. So ask yourself, why has the House been ineffective? Because Obama - the guy who's $2.1 trillion plan falls short of the $4 trillion requirement - has veto power. If any part of this isn't clear please speak up now, otherwise I know I'll have to drudge up facts again.

Originally Posted by transjen

BO has an excellent chance of a second term ...

As long as people ignore the facts...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM8Srpu8es8

[randolph]

Re: Obama's speech.
Where has this guy been?

[transjen]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Jen, it's time to wake up. What I'm about to show you may come as a shock, but it's from the real world.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7746VF20110806

The article goes on to say:

That's why we lost our AAA credit rating - because we didn't cut enough. So ask yourself, why has the House been ineffective? Because Obama - the guy who's $2.1 trillion plan falls short of the $4 trillion requirement - has veto power. If any part of this isn't clear please speak up now, otherwise I know I'll have to drudge up facts again.


As long as people ignore the facts...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM8Srpu8es8

And who's fault is that they didn't give him a bill with the 4 trillion cut?

Have you forgotton the BS from the Tea party wing of the GOP who refused to make or agree to anything unless social security was ended while the rich have there taxes lowered even more
THE BIGGEST PART OF THE ENTIRE DEFICT IS FROM w'S TAX CUTS AND HIS UNFONDED WARS
and the teaparty refuses to make the rich start paying there share
Nice to see you still live in the land of make believe the land that holds W and the GOP blameless for everything
and once people fully listen to the GOP plans to fix everything is going back to the same old failed polices of Reagan Bush and Bush just cut taxes for the rich and everyone will live happy ever after
welcome to the world of make believe folks our god is Ronald Reagan and our patron saint is any one named Bush
and our gods number one rule is the rich shall never be taxed after all thats what the poor are for
Jerseygirl Jen

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by transjen

And who's fault is that they didn't give him a bill with the 4 trillion cut?

BO's. He would veto anything with cuts that big.

Originally Posted by transjen

Have you forgotton the BS from the Tea party wing of the GOP who refused to make or agree to anything unless social security was ended while the rich have there taxes lowered even more

I believe their demands were no new taxes

blame bush crap snipped

Originally Posted by transjen

and the teaparty refuses to make the rich start paying there share

The rich do pay a higher percentage of their income in taxes. We went over this.

Originally Posted by transjen

Nice to see you still live in the land of make believe the land that holds W and the GOP blameless for everything
and once people fully listen to the GOP plans to fix everything is going back to the same old failed polices of Reagan Bush and Bush just cut taxes for the rich and everyone will live happy ever after

Was W pushing for higher cuts? No. Was W pushing for lower cuts? No. New taxes? No. Anything? No. HE WASN'T IN OFFICE LAST SUMMER! Stick to the subject. You were talking about how the house of reps cost us our credit rating. They were pushing for larger cuts last summer but BO would veto anything higher than $2.1 trillion in cuts. That's why we lost our credit rating.

[transjen]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

BO's. He would veto anything with cuts that big.

I believe their demands were no new taxes

blame bush crap snipped
The rich do pay a higher percentage of their income in taxes. We went over this.

Was W pushing for higher cuts? No. Was W pushing for lower cuts? No. New taxes? No. Anything? No. HE WASN'T IN OFFICE LAST SUMMER! Stick to the subject. You were talking about how the house of reps cost us our credit rating. They were pushing for larger cuts last summer but BO would veto anything higher than $2.1 trillion in cuts. That's why we lost our credit rating.

That was all the teaparty wanted to do was cut cut and put all the burden on the poor, everyone but the GOP said point blank that cuts plus raising taxes were need but the teaparty was all cuts and wouldn't give they wanted the goverment to shot down they said we can then pick and choose what bills get paid BO didn't say those things the teaparty did news flash the GOP are at fault
It was W's taxcuts the teaparty didn't want to touch so in away he was involved
So your with Mitt and Newt crying boo hoo hoo the rich pay to much and the poor don't pay enought
Jerseygirl Jen

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by transjen

That was all the teaparty wanted to do was cut cut and put all the burden on the poor

It was Obama who put the burden on the poor when he spent trillions on useless stimulus packages without raising taxes. Because it's going to have to be paid off sometime, and even if the rich paid all their money into taxes it wouldn't be enough, so the poor MUST help pay off the debt as well eventually. And yes, that was Obama's decision not to raise taxes.

[smc]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

The rich do pay a higher percentage of their income in taxes. We went over this.

This is bullshit, and you know it. The rich -- e.g., Romney -- are in a position to "earn" their "income" via non-work (capital gains) and pay armies of accountants to find every possible loophole (created for them).

Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit ... and more bullshit.

[transjen]

Of course you do know that if the teaparty would have been willing to work with the president instead of demanding our way or nothing a deal for the 4 trillion could have been reached in a fair way consisting of the 2 trillion in cuts and ending the Bush tax cuts for the rich consisting of 2 trillion that would have gave us the 4 trillion needed
But the teaparty wanted nothing to do with makeing rich people going from a base rate of 30% up to 33% base rate and as Mitt has shown he already pays nowhere near 30% and yet the GOP cry his taxes are to to high
Jerseygirl Jen

[randolph]

I am beginning to think the unthinkable. What if Jeb Bush (a moderate Republican) was elected President and Congress was controlled by the Republicans. What would happen?
Would they pull together and do things for the country? Or--would they turn the country into a full fledged plutocracy.
Continuing the way things are is very bad for the country with endless logjams bickering and stalemates, we have no effective government. For more years of this and we could see a real depression with violence in the streets.
We should be taking a close look at the Wiemar Republic.

[transjen]

take a GOP president add a GOP controled house then add a GOP controled senate and add the lop sided GOP controled unsurpme court that equals the USA being a thrid world country
plus look at the top three remaining canadates and we'll be reliving the holy crusades
Jerseygirl Jen

[randolph]

Originally Posted by transjen

take a GOP president add a GOP controled house then add a GOP controled senate and add the lop sided GOP controled unsurpme court that equals the USA being a thrid world country
plus look at the top three remaining canadates and we'll be reliving the holy crusades
Jerseygirl Jen

Yeah, one of the top three could put us into the stone age with Islamists paddling over here in rowboats.

[transjen]

Originally Posted by randolph

Yeah, one of the top three could put us into the stone age with Islamists paddling over here in rowboats.

A president Mitt or president Newt or president Rick will have us refighting the holy crusades and will unleash a nucler hellacaust sending who ever is left in to the stoneages
Jerseygirl Jen