GOP'ish candidates

[parr]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Chichester, I saw your posting in Justice and wasn't sure how it fit in there, but it is a subject on its own that I'm concerned about. It's time to see if a GOP candidate that doesn't in some remote way relate back to Reagan, can win. And if ANY GOP candidate can't win against Obama the GOP really should pack it up and never show their face again, and the curse often attributed to Alexander Tytler has become a reality.

I think many of the current GOP candidates will have the same problem McCain had: Conservative voters were not impressed that McCain was conservative enough, so bizarrely they elected the most far left president the country has ever had.

The obligatory GOP haters who respond to this thread will of course be obvious, but to the few conservatives out there, what do you think of this round of GOP candidates?

TRACY, ANY ONE OF THE GOP'S EXEPT RON PAUL, WOULD SURELY BE THE
LESSER OF THE EVILS, DON'T YOU THINK.

[GRH]

Originally Posted by parr

TRACY, ANY ONE OF THE GOP'S EXEPT RON PAUL, WOULD SURELY BE THE
LESSER OF THE EVILS, DON'T YOU THINK.

I don't know if this is sarcasm or not...But among the GOP candidates, Ron Paul is the ONLY sane candidate who actually believes in individual liberty and the Constitution. Further, he believes in sound fiscal policy...A policy that would starve the Fed's ability to blindly print dollars and devalue our currency. This in turn would starve our ability to deficit finance multiple trillion dollar wars, globe trotting adventurism, and our ever-ballooning federal government. Other candidates like to talk about small government-- but their voting records often betray their talk. Paul is the one GOP candidate that has at least been consistent over the past couple of decades, and in my mind, he is the ONLY GOP candidate who actually stands for what Republicans of history have stood for.

[parr]

Originally Posted by GRH

I don't know if this is sarcasm or not...But among the GOP candidates, Ron Paul is the ONLY sane candidate who actually believes in individual liberty and the Constitution. Further, he believes in sound fiscal policy...A policy that would starve the Fed's ability to blindly print dollars and devalue our currency. This in turn would starve our ability to deficit finance multiple trillion dollar wars, globe trotting adventurism, and our ever-ballooning federal government. Other candidates like to talk about small government-- but their voting records often betray their talk. Paul is the one GOP candidate that has at least been consistent over the past couple of decades, and in my mind, he is the ONLY GOP candidate who actually stands for what Republicans of history have stood for.

No sarcasm.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by parr

TRACY, ANY ONE OF THE GOP'S EXEPT RON PAUL, WOULD SURELY BE THE
LESSER OF THE EVILS, DON'T YOU THINK.

I think Ron Paul would be a much better choice against Obama. He wouldn't be my first pick against Obama. Sure he'd slash government, but he'd also make us an isolationist country. We should pull back in some parts of the world, but not all. And I couldn't picture the leader of our country with a whiney voice like his. He's another religious nutjob, but who on the GOP side isn't? But yeah, I'd take him over BO.

[randolph]

When all of these idiots crash in flames, my bet is that waiting in the wings is Jeb Bush. He is an intelligent experienced politician with a Hispanic wife and of course he is a member of the bush dynasty.
Also, he is the one who could beat Obama.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by randolph

When all of these idiots crash in flames, my bet is that waiting in the wings is Jeb Bush. He is an intelligent experienced politician with a Hispanic wife and of course he is a member of the bush dynasty.
Also, he is the one who could beat Obama.

After the 2010 routing of the democrats as a result of BO's, Pelosi's & Reid's agenda you'd have to wonder how BO has any chance in 2012. But on the other hand, I know it will be difficult... not sure why. I guess because BO somehow got elected in the first place.

[transjen]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

After the 2010 routing of the democrats as a result of BO's, Pelosi's & Reid's agenda you'd have to wonder how BO has any chance in 2012. But on the other hand, I know it will be difficult... not sure why. I guess because BO somehow got elected in the first place.

An we all see how well that worked out

they are the least productive house of reps of all time and cost us out top credit rating by almost shutting down the goverment and refusing to make any kind of deal what so even
BO has an excellent chance of a second term and the chances improve when the remaining for bozos only answer is trickle down cut taxes and bring out the Reagan playbook in other words lets go back to the same policies that started this mess to start with
Face the cold hard facts the whole GOP strongly believe in closing your eyes and hoping things fix themselves
Jerseygirl Jen

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by transjen

An we all see how well that worked out

they are the least productive house of reps of all time and cost us out top credit rating by almost shutting down the goverment and refusing to make any kind of deal what so even

Jen, it's time to wake up. What I'm about to show you may come as a shock, but it's from the real world.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7746VF20110806

The downgrade reflects our opinion that the fiscal consolidation plan that Congress and the Administration recently agreed to falls short of what, in our view, would be necessary to stabilize the government's medium-term debt dynamics.

The article goes on to say:

On August 2, President Barack Obama signed legislation designed to reduce the fiscal deficit by $2.1 trillion over 10 years. But that was well short of the $4 trillion in savings S&P had called for as a good "down payment" on fixing America's finances.

That's why we lost our AAA credit rating - because we didn't cut enough. So ask yourself, why has the House been ineffective? Because Obama - the guy who's $2.1 trillion plan falls short of the $4 trillion requirement - has veto power. If any part of this isn't clear please speak up now, otherwise I know I'll have to drudge up facts again.

Originally Posted by transjen

BO has an excellent chance of a second term ...

As long as people ignore the facts...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM8Srpu8es8

[randolph]

Re: Obama's speech.
Where has this guy been?

[transjen]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Jen, it's time to wake up. What I'm about to show you may come as a shock, but it's from the real world.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7746VF20110806

The article goes on to say:

That's why we lost our AAA credit rating - because we didn't cut enough. So ask yourself, why has the House been ineffective? Because Obama - the guy who's $2.1 trillion plan falls short of the $4 trillion requirement - has veto power. If any part of this isn't clear please speak up now, otherwise I know I'll have to drudge up facts again.


As long as people ignore the facts...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM8Srpu8es8

And who's fault is that they didn't give him a bill with the 4 trillion cut?

Have you forgotton the BS from the Tea party wing of the GOP who refused to make or agree to anything unless social security was ended while the rich have there taxes lowered even more
THE BIGGEST PART OF THE ENTIRE DEFICT IS FROM w'S TAX CUTS AND HIS UNFONDED WARS
and the teaparty refuses to make the rich start paying there share
Nice to see you still live in the land of make believe the land that holds W and the GOP blameless for everything
and once people fully listen to the GOP plans to fix everything is going back to the same old failed polices of Reagan Bush and Bush just cut taxes for the rich and everyone will live happy ever after
welcome to the world of make believe folks our god is Ronald Reagan and our patron saint is any one named Bush
and our gods number one rule is the rich shall never be taxed after all thats what the poor are for
Jerseygirl Jen

[randolph]

I am beginning to think the unthinkable. What if Jeb Bush (a moderate Republican) was elected President and Congress was controlled by the Republicans. What would happen?
Would they pull together and do things for the country? Or--would they turn the country into a full fledged plutocracy.
Continuing the way things are is very bad for the country with endless logjams bickering and stalemates, we have no effective government. For more years of this and we could see a real depression with violence in the streets.
We should be taking a close look at the Wiemar Republic.

[transjen]

take a GOP president add a GOP controled house then add a GOP controled senate and add the lop sided GOP controled unsurpme court that equals the USA being a thrid world country
plus look at the top three remaining canadates and we'll be reliving the holy crusades
Jerseygirl Jen

[randolph]

Originally Posted by transjen

take a GOP president add a GOP controled house then add a GOP controled senate and add the lop sided GOP controled unsurpme court that equals the USA being a thrid world country
plus look at the top three remaining canadates and we'll be reliving the holy crusades
Jerseygirl Jen

Yeah, one of the top three could put us into the stone age with Islamists paddling over here in rowboats.

[transjen]

Originally Posted by randolph

When all of these idiots crash in flames, my bet is that waiting in the wings is Jeb Bush. He is an intelligent experienced politician with a Hispanic wife and of course he is a member of the bush dynasty.
Also, he is the one who could beat Obama.

Buddy Holly said it a long time ago
THAT'LL BE THE DAY
jERSEYGIRL jEN