Ungendering and a Lack of Respect

shadows · #1 05-25-2011

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Originally Posted by loveshemales

I think that shemales are a god send because they have the beuty in there face and nice tits and of course the tasty dick in between there legs I have always wanted to date and eventually marry a shemale

Calling them shemales is probably not going to get you too many marriage offers. Why don't you just call them women, as that is what they are?

Also, I hope there would be more reasons that you would wish to marry her than just her "face, tits, and tasty dick".

#2 06-20-2011

Found this today while out browsing for something else entirely... Very interesting and informative.

http://www.queerty.com/lets-learn-th...void-20110620/

TheUser · #3 06-22-2011

Wow, this is an unbelievable thread.

You banned a guy for sharing an opinion that did not align with your own. He was not disrespectful in any way, was not belligerent or hostile and I doubt his intent was to pick a fight. I think he genuinely just wanted to share his opinion because he disagreed with previous posts and he was immediately threatened by several members of this forum and then banned. You should be ashamed of yourselves for being such hypocrites.

He came here to talk and you all just shut him down. If it's your goal to change the hearts and minds of people that you deem disrespectful in regards to transgender issues then you are failing at this task miserably. You have to be open to discussion and you will certainly be confronted by many that do not agree with your views. Even after a civil argument, they still will not agree with you in most cases. You need to understand that your views are opinion and not words of righteousness, just like dom4TGs views are his opinion. You could have at least had a 2 sided conversation instead of simply stroking each other off.

Your conduct toward dom4tg was basically totalitarian and insanely hypocritical. You basically proved dom4tg's very first point by banning him. He wins this argument.

The same goes for the overall theme of this thread, disregarding the scuffle with dom4tg for a second. You're basically setting a tone of "respect the lingo OR ELSE!" for this site. It's absurd that you all think you have the right to not be offended. It's called life. You are free to do all you can do to try and change the world, but you can't blow your lid the second somebody offends you. Well, you can, but don't expect positive results.

Lastly, as mentioned previously, this is a porn site, plain and simple. You want to have serious discussions about respect for transgendered people, maybe think about moving this forum to a more suitable domain. This is seriously laughable. I know for me and many others, outright and blatant disrespect of a person, whether it's physical, verbal, or psychological, can be a huge part of a sexual fantasy. So you shouldn't be at all offended or surprised when you see terms like "tranny" or "shemale" tossed around at a place like this. Quite small offenses in the grand scheme of things.

smc · #4 06-22-2011

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Originally Posted by TheUser

Wow, this is an unbelievable thread.

You banned a guy for sharing an opinion that did not align with your own. He was not disrespectful in any way, was not belligerent or hostile and I doubt his intent was to pick a fight. I think he genuinely just wanted to share his opinion because he disagreed with previous posts and he was immediately threatened by several members of this forum and then banned. You should be ashamed of yourselves for being such hypocrites.

He came here to talk and you all just shut him down. If it's your goal to change the hearts and minds of people that you deem disrespectful in regards to transgender issues then you are failing at this task miserably. You have to be open to discussion and you will certainly be confronted by many that do not agree with your views. Even after a civil argument, they still will not agree with you in most cases. You need to understand that your views are opinion and not words of righteousness, just like dom4TGs views are his opinion. You could have at least had a 2 sided conversation instead of simply stroking each other off.

Your conduct toward dom4tg was basically totalitarian and insanely hypocritical. You basically proved dom4tg's very first point by banning him. He wins this argument.

The same goes for the overall theme of this thread, disregarding the scuffle with dom4tg for a second. You're basically setting a tone of "respect the lingo OR ELSE!" for this site. It's absurd that you all think you have the right to not be offended. It's called life. You are free to do all you can do to try and change the world, but you can't blow your lid the second somebody offends you. Well, you can, but don't expect positive results.

Lastly, as mentioned previously, this is a porn site, plain and simple. You want to have serious discussions about respect for transgendered people, maybe think about moving this forum to a more suitable domain. This is seriously laughable. I know for me and many others, outright and blatant disrespect of a person, whether it's physical, verbal, or psychological, can be a huge part of a sexual fantasy. So you shouldn't be at all offended or surprised when you see terms like "tranny" or "shemale" tossed around at a place like this. Quite small offenses in the grand scheme of things.

This is a very interesting first post on this site. One could reasonably assume that you are either here exclusively for the purpose of challenging the stated rules of the Forum, or are a friend of the banned person to whom you refer, or are the banned person back with a different ID, or all of the above.

You begin on this site by calling those of us who are responsible for enforcing the rules a series of names: "hypocrites," "totalitarian," even "insanely hypocritical." You presume to know the full extent of the story. You presume to know of the PMs that might have passed during the interchange.

You lecture us about the purpose of the site, as if it is yours to determine. You call it a "porn site, plain and simple." It is not, though, yours to determine. You can only have an opinion; you do not dictate the site's purpose. Why? Because this is a privately owned site. And to be clear, there are no rights here, other than those afforded by the site owner. It is his domain. He can decide whether a combination of porn and proscribed discussion is allowable, or he can decide whether only some porn and completely free rein in discussion is allowable, or he can decide that only women with first names beginning in "L" and who are between the ages of 27 and 39 can participate.

My suggestion is that if you wish to defend the ungendering of transpeople, you find somewhere else to post. The arrogance of a first post such as yours -- and the arrogance is PRECISELY because it is your first post -- is not something we haven't seen before, and the outcome of the user's participation here is almost always the same.

smc · #5 06-22-2011

^^^ By the way, for those of you who may not want to review the entire history with dom4tg, check here:

http://forum.transladyboy.com/showpo...5&postcount=77

His banning was the outcome of his stated desire to have nothing to do with the site, because he didn't want to respect the rules. That is the only right he had: the right NOT to participate.

TheUser · #6 06-22-2011

I am not dom4tg and I do not know him at all. I'm simply expressing my opinion after having read through the thread. And seeing how you handled dom4tg, I fully expect to be banned for dissenting. You can hide behind all the justifications you want and deflect any points about the real argument here, but at the end of the day all you're doing is failing to face facts and conducting a biased, extremely unfair forum.

smc · #7 06-22-2011

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Originally Posted by TheUser

I am not dom4tg and I do not know him at all. I'm simply expressing my opinion after having read through the thread. And seeing how you handled dom4tg, I fully expect to be banned for dissenting. You can hide behind all the justifications you want and deflect any points about the real argument here, but at the end of the day all you're doing is failing to face facts and conducting a biased, extremely unfair forum.

All you have done is demonstrate that either you do not read completely or you simply want to be here to pick a fight. It's notable that despite your accusation that I hid behind justifications deflected points, you didn't really address the substance of my response. Your initial post, however, has been dealt with again and again in this thread that you claim to have read (assumedly, either not as thoroughly as you might have us believe OR with a focus only on the posts with which you agree).

You will not be banned for expressing your opinion in a discussion. You may be banned for ungendering, should it happen (which I do not anticipate) and if a warning does not suffice to put an end to it. It's as simple as that.

dom4tg asked to leave. You do not know all the facts. It was made simple for him. PMs were exchanged as well.

This IS a "biased" forum. It is extremely biased. We have decided that despite all the porn, our discussions will be respectful of transpeople, and that words matter in this. We take it seriously. We take seriously when someone posts a self-identified woman in the crossdresser thread, no less than we take seriously when someone writes that one of our transmembers is not a "real woman."

It is a privilege, not a right, to be a member of this site. The bottom-line question for me to you is this: Are you here to argue about rules that you don't have to live by -- because you can just choose not to participate if you don't like the way this PRIVATE site is set up? Or are you here to make a positive contribution in some way?