Liberal free for all coming to an end

[transjen]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Another benefit of the 2010 election:
US House Backs More Offshore Drilling Amid Gasoline-Price Debate

The measure requires the Obama administration to open up areas known to have the greatest oil and natural gas reserves and make them available for leasing. It represents the last of three bills, sponsored by Republicans, that are aimed at speeding up and expanding offshore drilling.

Obama's campaign office, I mean the media, was only able to protect him for so long as gas prices went from $1.83 to $4 over his term with the 2012 campaign coming and the House's bills to force him to end the moratorium on offshore drilling. Not that that will reverse high gas prices anytime soon, but it will definitely help in the future and probably does more for our economy than his other brilliant idea of funding Brazil's offshore oil industry.

And yet agian you forgot about how gas hit over $4 where W was in the White House but somehow i'll be you will blam it on the Dems

Now who ever believes that drill baby drill will bring the price of gas to under a dollar a gallon stand on your head and spin

Drilling more at best will reduce prices when hell freezes over we need more refinearies as we are at peak out put now
Jerseygirl Jen

[ila]

Originally Posted by transjen

...Now who ever believes that drill baby drill will bring the price of gas to under a dollar a gallon stand on your head and spin

Drilling more at best will reduce prices when hell freezes over we need more refinearies as we are at peak out put now
Jerseygirl Jen

Excellent post. You are right on the mark. The price of gas will come down when the oil companies get tired of raping and gouging the consumer and are no longer interested in making obscene profits.

[randolph]

Originally Posted by ila

Excellent post. You are right on the mark. The price of gas will come down when the oil companies get tired of raping and gouging the consumer and are no longer interested in making obscene profits.

Correct, there is no shortage of oil or refinery capacity.
The price is manipulated by the commodity traders in collusion with the oil companies. Oh by the way our Congress gives the oil companies big tax breaks.

We could beat this game by driving less and driving slower. It has been estimated that if everyone drove 55 mph, we would not need any oil from Saudi Arabia. Do you hear anybody in government promoting this? Now it's drill baby drill which is totally ludicrous, pure political BS.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by ila

Excellent post. You are right on the mark. The price of gas will come down when the oil companies get tired of raping and gouging the consumer and are no longer interested in making obscene profits.

Which will only happen when we are all dead and underwater. But what else can be expected from a system that does not cater to human needs but only caters to the rich and their sympathizers?

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by transjen

And yet agian you forgot about how gas hit over $4 where W was in the White House but somehow i'll be you will blam it on the Dems

Oh I remember. Who could forget the way the press went on and on about it. But then, that was a republican president.

Originally Posted by transjen

Now who ever believes that drill baby drill will bring the price of gas to under a dollar a gallon stand on your head and spin

Drilling more at best will reduce prices when hell freezes over we need more refinearies as we are at peak out put now

No spinning here. And yes, we need more refineries as well.

Originally Posted by randolph

We could beat this game by driving less and driving slower. It has been estimated that if everyone drove 55 mph, we would not need any oil from Saudi Arabia. Do you hear anybody in government promoting this? Now it's drill baby drill which is totally ludicrous, pure political BS.

You can put up 55 mph speed limit signs [ptewwey] but honestly, would anyone drive 55? Would you drive 55? Or would you fear that you'd be rear ended? Back to reality now...

[TracyCoxx]

Huckabee: 'I Will Not Seek the Republican Nomination'

YES!

[randolph]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Oh I remember. Who could forget the way the press went on and on about it. But then, that was a republican president.

No spinning here. And yes, we need more refineries as well.

You can put up 55 mph speed limit signs [ptewwey] but honestly, would anyone drive 55? Would you drive 55? Or would you fear that you'd be rear ended? Back to reality now...

I drive 55 mph now, for your information. I haven't been rear ended yet.
You can save 15 to 20 % on gas by slowing down. At four plus dollars a gallon, that's significant.

Also, what exactly is that officer doing?

[transjen]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

You can put up 55 mph speed limit signs [ptewwey] but honestly, would anyone drive 55? Would you drive 55? Or would you fear that you'd be rear ended? Back to reality now...

Have to agree here, and my driving record has the tickets to prove it, and even with gas hitting $4 i refuse to buy a toy electric car i'm keeping my Mustang

Jerseygirl Jen

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by transjen

Have to agree here, and my driving record has the tickets to prove it, and even with gas hitting $4 i refuse to buy a toy electric car i'm keeping my Mustang

Jerseygirl Jen

Why agree with Tracy when there is no need for it? Tracy's "reality" depends on thinking only of yourself in big and small ways. Why would you want to imitate Tracy?

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Why agree with Tracy when there is no need for it? Tracy's "reality" depends on thinking only of yourself in big and small ways. Why would you want to imitate Tracy?

I was talking about driving 55 mph.

[Tread]

Originally Posted by randolph

I drive 55 mph now, for your information. I haven't been rear ended yet.
You can save 15 to 20 % on gas by slowing down. At four plus dollars a gallon, that's significant.

More significant than the speed is the car, engine (how big, diesel or petrol), transmission, and how you drive the car.
If you drive in the right gear for the demand, accelerate in short time at optimum rpm of the engine, and many other things. But you in the US use mostly automatic gear shifts I think, shifting manual is more fun, gives you more control and allows you to save fuel.

If you drive real efficient, with an efficient car, you can drive 80 mph (130 km/h) by using less then 47 mpg (5l/100km). Slower driving does less than efficient driving, and that can also be faster in some cases. That?s not average and not with every car but possible.

[randolph]

Originally Posted by Tread

More significant than the speed is the car, engine (how big, diesel or petrol), transmission, and how you drive the car.
If you drive in the right gear for the demand, accelerate in short time at optimum rpm of the engine, and many other things. But you in the US use mostly automatic gear shifts I think, shifting manual is more fun, gives you more control and allows you to save fuel.

If you drive real efficient, with an efficient car, you can drive 80 mph (130 km/h) by using less then 47 mpg (5l/100km). Slower driving does less than efficient driving, and that can also be faster in some cases. That?s not average and not with every car but possible.

Certainly, efficient driving in important. Floorbording to fifty five is not going to cut it. By the way, I drive a VW Jetta, it gets 40 mpg around town and fifty mpg on the freeway, if I drive conservatively.

[franalexes]

Remember Obama's cash-for-clunkers?
On average, peolple traded up to a heavier vehicle that burned more gas.

[GRH]

Is that you just speculating...Or do you have any evidence to back up that claim?

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by transjen

Have to agree here, and my driving record has the tickets to prove it, and even with gas hitting $4 i refuse to buy a toy electric car i'm keeping my Mustang

Jerseygirl Jen

I'm a mustang driver myself, so absolutely. And why shouldn't you keep your mustang? We have plenty of untapped oil here in the US. Let the good times roll

[Tread]

Originally Posted by randolph

Certainly, efficient driving in important. Floorbording to fifty five is not going to cut it. By the way, I drive a VW Jetta, it gets 40 mpg around town and fifty mpg on the freeway, if I drive conservatively.

I don?t know what engine you have but it is very good for petrol and good for the diesel. If you have the petrol engine then you are nearly at the limit of fuel saving, else it could get you even more mpg, but your mpg is still good.

With my over 10 years old small petrol car I get about 47 mpg, all mixed a bit city, motorway and highway.

Originally Posted by Tread

If you drive real efficient, with an efficient car, you can drive 80 mph (130 km/h) by using less then 47 mpg (5l/100km.

I mixed l/100km and mpg, I meant using less than 5l/100km and getting more than 47mpg.

[transjen]

You guys are forgetting a few factors on engines
I do all the proper maintence to my Mustang i keep her tuned up i change filters i keep my tires at the proper inflation and a lot of people don't so there gas friendly cars probalily get less gas mileage then my v8 Mustang
Jerseygirl Jen

[randolph]

Originally Posted by transjen

You guys are forgetting a few factors on engines
I do all the proper maintence to my Mustang i keep her tuned up i change filters i keep my tires at the proper inflation and a lot of people don't so there gas friendly cars probalily get less gas mileage then my v8 Mustang
Jerseygirl Jen

Hey Jen, I love Mustangs and had one years ago.
My first car was a 1935 Dodge coupe. I learned how to do everything from the brakes on up. I even painted and reupholstered it.
Now I have a VW Jetta diesel that requires service every ten thousand miles. I wouldn't touch anything under the hood other than the dipstick. So much for personal car maintenance.
I miss the good old days when a car was almost like a lover, something that needed lots of tinkering.

[Chichester]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

I'm a mustang driver myself We have plenty of untapped oil here in the US. Let the good times roll

I have a Honda Civic I got with the cash for clunkers program $12,700 out the door. I miss my 383 cu. in. Plymouth, but times change, adjust or rust. These damn gas companies will charge us an arm and a leg for gas no matter where it comes from, they don't care. Way past time to ween ourselves off gas.