Liberal free for all coming to an end

[randolph]

Originally Posted by smc

My god, did you think I was being serious? I was asking "tongue-in-cheek."

In any case, were the point to be thrown out of the bar first, I assure you that I know the buttons to push in Southie that would win me the "honors." However, I would prefer to lose so I could stay in the bar and get shitfaced.

Yep, that's where the humor is, discussing politics while shitfaced.
I've tried that a few times, we end up agreeing on having another drink.

[TracyCoxx]

If I find myself at a table in a bar with drinks and Fran, political debate is the last thing I'm thinking about.

[randolph]

The California economy is NOT improving in spite of optimistic prognostications from Washington and New York. Employment is 250,000 LOWER than it was ten years ago. Food Stamp demand is increasing in the area where I liv (Riverside County) and is higher than any where else in the US.
This is in spite of billions of tax money poured into banks and financial institution, ostensibly to "stimulate" the economy. It appears most of the stimulus money has gone into the stock market, making millions of profits for investors but not doing much for the economy.
The other problem is the price of gasoline. California is a commuter economy. The economy is extremely sensitive to the price of gasoline. A major escalation in price will severely and prevent any economic recovery in California.

[no1000]

I know how you feel Randolph. I live in the pomona area and gas is ridiculous. I do know of 2 people that have lost their jobs because they cannot commute to work and make it a worthwhile. Gas costs more than what they are actually making. I filled up my tank with $67 the other day. I'm hoping it doesn't get as bad as it did in the summer of 2008.

Yes, too much money goes to the educate system (I'm preparing for a hate mail on this one), prison systems, unions and government workers. And brown wants to extend taxes in June!?!?! oh hell no!!! Californians.. please say NO to tax increases!!!

[randolph]

Originally Posted by no1000

I know how you feel Randolph. I live in the pomona area and gas is ridiculous. I do know of 2 people that have lost their jobs because they cannot commute to work and make it a worthwhile. Gas costs more than what they are actually making. I filled up my tank with $67 the other day. I'm hoping it doesn't get as bad as it did in the summer of 2008.

Yes, too much money goes to the educate system (I'm preparing for a hate mail on this one), prison systems, unions and government workers. And brown wants to extend taxes in June!?!?! oh hell no!!! Californians.. please say NO to tax increases!!!

Well, I would have to agree with much of what you say. California is over regulated, overly bureaucratic and the legislature is corrupt. Infrastructure is disintegrating while urban renewal funds are spent on things the Board of Supervisors can brag about. Like fancy sports complexes and expensive community centers that have their names plastered on them. Aarggg!

[no1000]

Yeah, 'they' are building a football stadium in the diamond bar/walnut area and 'they' are also trying to build another sports stadium in LA. One of the people who was for the LA stadium said something along the lines, "traffic will be no problem, the LA freeways can handle about twice as many cars than what it has right now." I guess he/she has never driven down the 10 freeway at 6pm on a weekday.

Originally Posted by randolph

Well, I would have to agree with much of what you say. California is over regulated, overly bureaucratic and the legislature is corrupt. Infrastructure is disintegrating while urban renewal funds are spent on things the Board of Supervisors can brag about. Like fancy sports complexes and expensive community centers that have their names plastered on them. Aarggg!

[TracyCoxx]

During the coming presidential campaign you will probably be asked: "Are you better off now than you were 4 years ago?" You can bet it will not be Obama asking that question.

[randolph]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

During the coming presidential campaign you will probably be asked: "Are you better off now than you were 4 years ago?" You can bet it will not be Obama asking that question.

Hey, anybody working for the arms industry should be very happy with Obama. He is the biggest Presidential arms dealer in recent memory. The Wikileaks documents spell it out in Fortune magazine. Two hundred and fifty thousand workers here in the US are working full time making weapons for international trade. Of course, Israel get top of the line.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by randolph

Hey, anybody working for the arms industry should be very happy with Obama. He is the biggest Presidential arms dealer in recent memory. The Wikileaks documents spell it out in Fortune magazine. Two hundred and fifty thousand workers here in the US are working full time making weapons for international trade. Of course, Israel get top of the line.

Always true to your talking points... Are YOU better off than you were 4 years ago?

[randolph]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Always true to your talking points... Are YOU better off than you were 4 years ago?

Yep, sitting on my nest egg (stayed on the sidelines during the boom).

[transjen]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

During the coming presidential campaign you will probably be asked: "Are you better off now than you were 4 years ago?" You can bet it will not be Obama asking that question.

I can honestly say i'm doing better as for the last two years i got a pay raise along with an cost of living increase thanks to our union

While back in the W years it was pay freezes and a pay cut, we accepted the pay cut to aviod layoffs

Jerseygirl Jen

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by transjen

I can honestly say i'm doing better as for the last two years i got a pay raise along with an cost of living increase thanks to our union

While back in the W years it was pay freezes and a pay cut, we accepted the pay cut to aviod layoffs

Jerseygirl Jen

That's great. Looks like all your hard work paid off. Or was it just an automatic raise that comes with being part of a union? In other words did the dems pay for your vote with my taxes?

[smc]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

That's great. Looks like all your hard work paid off. Or was it just an automatic raise that comes with being part of a union? In other words did the dems pay for your vote with my taxes?

Hey, Jen, when you file your income taxes this year perhaps you can stipulate that you don't want any of what you pay to help fund any of the myriad benefits from the government that Tracy Coxx surely receives. Keep Tracy off the highways, for instance. Don't allow Tracy to fly in any airplanes that use our federal air traffic control system. Etc. Etc. Etc.

[transjen]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

That's great. Looks like all your hard work paid off. Or was it just an automatic raise that comes with being part of a union? In other words did the dems pay for your vote with my taxes?

How does my pay raise increase your taxes? I'm not a state employee or goverment employee i'm a bank teller

And before you ask the bank i work for didn't not get part of the bail out
And fyi our raises are mostly based on merit and job preformance
Jerseygirl Jen

[The Conquistador]

Originally Posted by randolph

Yep, that's where the humor is, discussing politics while shitfaced.
I've tried that a few times, we end up agreeing on having another drink.

What about discussing politics butt ass naked? Would that result in buttseks?

[transjen]

Originally Posted by The Conquistador

What about discussing politics butt ass naked? Would that result in buttseks?

Now that could be fun as we let it all hang out

Jerseygirl Jen

[randolph]

Originally Posted by transjen

Now that could be fun as we let it all hang out

Jerseygirl Jen

Are there going to be some rules or shall we just have a drunken orgy?

[transjen]

Originally Posted by randolph

Are there going to be some rules or shall we just have a drunken orgy?

Like under the boardwalk? on a hot summers night


Jerseygirl Jen

[randolph]

Originally Posted by transjen

Like under the boardwalk? on a hot summers night


Jerseygirl Jen

We don't have a boardwalk here so I guess we will have to meet in New Jesey. Umm, who is going to provide the drinks?