Liberal free for all coming to an end

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Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Looks like ObamaCare is starting to have an effect already. I am employed and I have health insurance. Our insurance rates are going up this year more than usual. What's worse is I'm losing my doctor I've had for years because he's now completely off insurance. He's on this thing called MDVIP which means if I want to keep him as a doctor I have to pay him $1600/year and I get to see him as often as I want. This isn't just my doctor, I know a few other people who also have to find other doctors and while searching online for doctors I'm seeing that people are saying don't bother with this doctor - he's good but he's not on insurance anymore. I don't have $1600/yr to spend on a doctor so I have to find a doctor who's probably not as good. So like they've been saying about ObamaCare: decreased quality of service, and or higher medical bills. Obama, I thought you said if I liked my old health care I could keep it. I can't do that you SOB. It doesn't exist anymore.

I don?t know what you want to say. Is this an answer? Am I supposed to say something?
What has this to do with decreased quality of service? Is your old doctor the only good doctor in your range?
Is there a connection between ObamaCare or Obama and MDVIP I should know off?
This sounds like it was the doctor?s decision, and the doctor could have done this years earlier, if he/she wanted.
And why are you affronting Obama for that?

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by Tread

I don’t know what you want to say. Is this an answer? Am I supposed to say something?
What has this to do with decreased quality of service? Is your old doctor the only good doctor in your range?
Is there a connection between ObamaCare or Obama and MDVIP I should know off?
This sounds like it was the doctor’s decision, and the doctor could have done this years earlier, if he/she wanted.
And why are you affronting Obama for that?

Like I said it's not just my doctor. It looks like it's several doctors. I'm trying to get a feel for how widespread this is. But it looks like this is how things are going now.

[TracyCoxx]

Can someone please explain Pelosi? Yesterday on her way out she said:

"Deficit reduction has been a high priority for us, it's our mantra: Pay as you go."

I know politicians stretch the truth, but with the deficit increasing $5.2 trillion under her watch how can she stand there and say that with a straight face? This fits every definition of a bold faced lie. Is there any way she can possibly believe what she's saying is true?

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Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Like I said it's not just my doctor. It looks like it's several doctors. I'm trying to get a feel for how widespread this is. But it looks like this is how things are going now.

Oh, come on. According to their website http://www.mdvip.com/ they were founded in 2000, and they list almost 400 doctors in the whole US (I counted).
What do you want to say?

BTW: What does the abbreviation MDVIP stands for? I can?t find it.

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Originally Posted by Tread

Oh, come on. According to their website http://www.mdvip.com/ they were founded in 2000, and they list almost 400 doctors in the whole US (I counted).
What do you want to say?

BTW: What does the abbreviation MDVIP stands for? I can?t find it.

Any doctor who decides to join MDVIP is doing so for his or her own reasons, not because he or she is driven there by the Obama healthcare reform.

MDVIP (it means "Medical Doctors for Very Important Persons") is a money-making venture begun by some doctors who want to make more money by offering boutique, personalized services to those who can afford it. It is the antithesis of the kind of healthcare we should have in this country. Notably, Procter & Gamble -- the giant consumer products company -- bought this company fully in early 2010, expanding its minority stake to full ownership.

I spoke with two Harvard Medical School professors I know before writing this response. Here's a synopsis of how they both described MDVIP.

- This is another step in the misdirection of "managed care," designed to make more money doing less.

- The criteria for being a doctor in the MDVIP network is that you have to cut your practice to about 600 patients maximum (the current primary-care doctor in an urban area has 2,000 to 3,000 patients). The criteria for being a patient of such a doctor is your personal level of wealth and disposable income to pay for "care" beyond your insurance. The doctor will still collect from your insurance company; he or she just wants you to pay extra for the "privilege" of seeing him or her quickly.

- The focus is on "preventive" care, which should be the focus of the healthcare system as a whole.

- One of my colleagues said, "Welcome to the medical world's version of a country club."

Tracy Coxx, you really ought to take a deep breath before jumping to the conclusion that everything you dislike in the world can be traced to Obama, Pelosi, Democrats, and so on. The business model for a company like MDVIP precedes the healthcare debate and legislation of the last year by a long time; doctors have been trying to figure out ways to create these boutiques as sustainable ventures for many years.

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Thanks for the info, smc.
That confirms what I have googled and concluded about MDVIP.

Post #276 sounds like it was a response to me, and should prove something. I expected an explanation or at minimum some conspiracy theory from Tracy, and not an absurd pointless attack against Obama.

[TracyCoxx]

Welll we'll see how it pans out. And no, I did not say that MDVIP is the only refuge for doctors who are fed up with what Obama is doing to the health care system.

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Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Welll we'll see how it pans out. And no, I did not say that MDVIP is the only refuge for doctors who are fed up with what Obama is doing to the health care system.

Well tell these greedy doctors to jam it as those doctors can careless about there patients and all the care about is money so everyone is better off with out them and let them go work at Wal-mart for min wage
This for profit medical system is what's wrong with it the pure greed of the doctors and healthcare ins companies
If you think that stopin malpractice lawsuits and letting the healthcare ins companies run wild with no rules the coast will come down then i have a bridge to see you in San Fran bay
But then these ideas are from the same nut jobs who claim cutting taxes on the rich will create jobs
Jerseygirl Jen

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Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Welll we'll see how it pans out. And no, I did not say that MDVIP is the only refuge for doctors who are fed up with what Obama is doing to the health care system.

That's right: you did not use those words. But what I wrote is still how you come across, and you can't hide it.