pics of you?

[hankhavelock]

Just for clarification: A Fender Precision and a Musicman Stingray are bass-guitars... :-) Musical instruments... if any one might wonder -) They are not "weapons-of-mass-destruction" -

i have WASHBURN classical

but i don't know playing guitar yet

[tlover]

I have two organs a Yamaha which i don't play too well, it don't help i nearly chopped my left hand off a couple of years back, and a nice one between my legs, which i play very well, right handed you see.:D

[Ogryn1313]

Usually I'd be offended when someone rushes to judgment about an American and guns. The whole "we are superior to you because we don't like guns" things in foreing countries pissed me off.
But actually, Hank, I wan't to thank you for bringing it up and thus giving me a chance to speak my piece on the matter.
First of all, I'm not fascinated with death. And who doesn't like a bit of stress relieving destruction from time to time?
I think it is important, Hank, not to lump all Americans with guns into one category. The truth is, we have two distinct gun cultures in the United States. The one you referred to with stereotypes does indeed exist. It is the one responsible for school massacres and other crimes. There is a segment of Americans who indeed glorify the gun and treat it like some kind of status symbol. You see this most evident in the gangster rap culture. And quite obviously kids are influenced by this. However, I must point out that guns do not commit crimes. People do. If we banned guns in America crime rates would not drop significantly. People would just use other weapons to use in the commission of a crime. It is debatable if the right to bear arms helps protect citizins or not, or if it increases crimes. I'm not interested in debating that.
Now, the other gun culture is the one I belong to. You see, I am an Appalachian. Raised in the mountains. Guns have always been around in my life. The good gun culture is one in which owners do not glorify their guns. To them a gun is a tool. The majority of this culture are hunters. Some are just sport shooters like myself. See Hank, I'm an animal lover. I've never hunted and never will. I can say with pride that my guns will never take a life. However, if in a life or death situation in which someone is trying to kill me I take comfort in knowing I have the protection of my firearms should it come to the worst. I pray it does not. The gun culture I belong to is not at all like the gun swinging bullies in American films or rap videos. We respect the gun and its lethality. We do not abuse it.

[hankhavelock]

Originally Posted by Ogryn1313

However, I must point out that guns do not commit crimes. People do. If we banned guns in America crime rates would not drop significantly. People would just use other weapons to use in the commission of a crime.

Ogryn

Maybe guns don't do the crime... but they sure as shit make it a lot easier... I doubt that the good old bow and arrow would result in the same degree of killings. But alas, I hear you, brother. The problem is not in the weapons alone... it is in American culture, one of the most violent the world has ever witnessed.

And obviously that makes me feel superiour - not in a militaristic sense of the term, but in the concept of being a developed human being. Regarding violence most non-Americans can feel superiour. American history is one of violence - the good old American dream is based on aggressiveness. Unfortunately, this MINDSET of "every man's right to make his OWN way in which ever way possible" is still deeply rooted in your post-Columbus culture.

Now, that said (as I find it a bit outta place at this forum), I am, indeed, a big friend of America - and I've had the privilege of living there for a part of my life. Also America has twice in the last century shown great solidarity and come to a very needed rescue of European existence and culture. But now I'm really getting ahead of myself here :-)

I appreciate your point of view even though I disagree with the core logic of it. But rest assured, I won't challenge you to a gun-duel ;-) No, rather I may challenge you to a good night out among the ladyboys... then maybe we can use "the good guns" in stead... yippee ay yeah!

Peace!

Hank

[hankhavelock]

Why are yawl so afraid to show your pretty faces? Mother ain't reading this fine forum anyways ;-)

Here you can find some more of me... as well as some words...

http://www.gayromeo.com/hankhavelock

[Ogryn1313]

Man, just because a nation might ban guns and is less violent makes nobody superior. People are the same wherever you may go I've come to see. Look at me. I love my guns. I enjoy shooting them and blasting apart things like old tv sets, computer pieces, whatever. Yeah, that's aggressive and destructive. But you know what? I've never shot an animal. I've never shot nor want to shoot a human. So you're no better than me.
And take away the guns the criminals will use other weapons. And the bow and arrow actually inflicts more trauma than most guns. If it can be used to hurt another the criminals will use it. Personally, I'd hate to see America become Europeanized. There's much about the culture in Europe that can be considered not good. Take the French, steadily becoming an entitlement based society of lazy assed whiners. You know, they have a law there that allows someone not to be fired for any reason for the first year or two of employment?
As for the ladyboys...maybe some of them wouldn't mind getting in a little target practice with this unevolved and inferior American. And after that a bit of target practice with our non lethal guns.

[sesame]

And obviously that makes me feel superiour - not in a militaristic sense of the term, but in the concept of being a developed human being

To be proud of being peaceful is indeed very cool.
But my dear Hank,

The problem is not in the weapons alone... it is in American culture, one of the most violent the world has ever witnessed

Please show some respect for someone's Nationality. Dont thrash America so much; It will hurt some hearts right on.
Peace

[TheSkronkDonkey]

Hey Hank!

You look even younger and cooler than I first imagined. Don't get insulted or anythin', but all these new pictures are an improvement over your original forum avatar. Groovy, baby.

Your words, too ..... awesome writing. America is a land of extremes -- wealth, education, technology, morals .... you name it. That's why one should always moderate their criticism with praise (and vice versa). As for Bush: well, the guy comes across as a complete dunderhead at times, but there is also this to consider: he's the first president to come *into* power at the true dawn of the Internet and the Information Age. We're being a lot more critical of people -- often, superficially so, without knowing all the facts -- than a decade ago. I've also seen videos of Bush being charismatic, intelligent and holding his own against some pretty vocal anti-Bush people. And I don't disagree with all his policies, either. Iraq is the fulcrum. It has changed everything. Unfortunately, it wouldn't have been any different under Clinton or a Democrat administration. Clinton even said in a recent interview that he'd have gone for Saddam as Bush did, but that he'd have gotten UN approval first (easy to say that, especially when he wasn't in the driving seat and could make himself look good by posing a more favourable scenario in retrospect). Worst president ever? That's a tough one. I wouldn't like to say. I'd probably give it to Truman for dropping TWO A-Bombs. But that was a very awkward situation.

ANYWAY . . .

I'm choosing not to post a picture at present. Gotta agree with the other abstainers, even if I don't particularly like myself for choosing not to post. To refer back to my words above, this is the Information Age. You never know what may happen. I've already had some bad experience in this area. I'm not thrilled at the possibility of a Round Two.

[hankhavelock]

Originally Posted by sesame

To be proud of being peaceful is indeed very cool.
But my dear Hank,

Please show some respect for someone's Nationality. Dont thrash America so much; It will hurt some hearts right on.
Peace

Maybe I was outta line in my last phrasing - it's not my intention to step on toes - point taken, Sesame!

How ever, George Bush has actually succeeded in putting fear into people for criticizing his policies. And that is shameful!

I love America - my parents lived there and I've lived there, and I've always been a staunch defender of American foreign policy. But George Bush betrayed that. He made it impossible any longer to stand up for America - at least you had to make it very clear that American values were being mutilated by the current administration.

Enough of this... back to other topics :-)

Barack!

Peace!

Hank

I could never post my photo on here, I'm not ashamed that I like shemales, just affraid of any stick I'll get.

[dkong56]

hope you like them

[GRH]

Just some random ones...

[jsoze2288]

Originally Posted by dkong56

hope you like them

Sexy pics, great looking stuff there!

[jsoze2288]

Originally Posted by jsoze2288

Sexy pics, great looking stuff there!

Here's a few from me

[gizmo]

Originally Posted by hankhavelock

Just for clarification: A Fender Precision and a Musicman Stingray are bass-guitars... :-) Musical instruments... if any one might wonder -) They are not "weapons-of-mass-destruction" -

My girl has a weapon of ass destruction!

[Ogryn1313]

Guns aren't WMD

My farts are. I once cleared out a Spencer's Gifts in a mall with one single fart.

[tlover]

After weeks of agonizing about it i've decided to come out in the open and revile myself.
That's me then, quite handsome aren't i.