Barack Obama

[The Conquistador]

[QUOTE=jimnaseum;130535]

Originally Posted by TheAngryPostman

don't buy it
QUOTE]

I seem to remember Microsoft facing an Antitrust Rap in 1998, this is your Sowell hero. Your point was that corporations were charitable, my point is they have more money to be charitable. And then of course there is tax shelters.
This all comes down to UNION vs MANAGEMENT. If the people bond together, and refuse to eat shit, that's business, right? It's also called voting with your dollar.

The Health Industry is rampant profiteering leeched onto a noble cause. Parasites. Should Schools be an individual responsibility?
Any person who is Noble, Republican or Democrat, he's going to be OK, everyone he deals with will be OK. The better debater will win our debate. This has nothing to do with Cheney having all the Oil Execs in his office for a top secret meeting a week before gas prices soar!!! Take it or leave it? YOU take it!!!

Read again Jimbo. I said that people who know what work actually is tend to be more charitable versus those that complain and bitch and ask for handouts all the time.

The Microsoft Antitrust case was because Microsoft packaged IE with the OS. You are obviously talking about things way outside your pay grade.

Unions set the wages for the workers and decrease any incentive for quality because they are going to get paid anyways. Why do you think GM and Chrysler went under? Low productivity, low quality and exorbitant expenses that were incurred by the unions as "benefits" for their workers led to their bankruptcy and ultimately put the workers out of a job; the very same workers that they were "supposed" to protect. Unions are by nature, communist. No matter how productive you are, you do not get paid your worth; they determine it for you. They determine your wages, your benefits and even how productive you are supposed to be. Unions were fine if you were a coal miner in 1880 or a steel worker in 1906 but nowadays, they are just counter productive.

Schooling is also something that should not be public. Look at the standards nowadays. A Bachelors Degree today is equal to a High School Diploma from the 1950's. Standards today are incredibly dumbed down because of idiots crying that their stupid kids are smoking pot and being lazy rather than getting an education. Today's average man is already a retard by 1900's standards.

Is it the schools fault that Little Johnny is a dipshit and has no discipline in his life? No. If it was the teachers fault and it was indeed the teacher who was not doing their job, then usually the teacher would be fired. But since they are employed by the Teachers Unions, anything other than molesting students, the teachers will continue to collect a paycheck and do very little.

And Jimbo, ad hominem has no place in a rational debate. Please do further to strengthen your arguements.


And yes, people banding together and boycotting certain legitimate wrongdoings in a business is indeed a form of "voting with your dollar". Why continue to buy something if it violates what you stand for?

[jimnaseum]

Originally Posted by TheAngryPostman

And Jimbo, ad hominem has no place in a rational debate. Please do further to strengthen your arguements.

I can't speak for the others, but I was more amusing myself at your expense than debating.

EVERY ONE of you points has one fatal flaw. George W Bush. He cost you all your credibility. I'm with Obama all day. I smelled Bush coming all the way. I've run into his kind a thousand times. That crap you're spouting DOESN'T WORK.*

*2000-2008

See, I gave you a footnote to prove my arguement.{sic}

[The Conquistador]

Originally Posted by jimnaseum

I can't speak for the others, but I was more amusing myself at your expense than debating.

EVERY ONE of you points has one fatal flaw. George W Bush. He cost you all your credibility. I'm with Obama all day. I smelled Bush coming all the way. I've run into his kind a thousand times. That crap you're spouting DOESN'T WORK.*

*2000-2008

See, I gave you a footnote to prove my arguement.{sic}

What does Bush have to do with anything I've said? I've stated multiple times on this forum that I am a conservative Libertarian. Thus any attempt of yours to make some kind of ideological connection is invalid.

[jimnaseum]

Originally Posted by TheAngryPostman

What does Bush have to do with anything I've said? I've stated multiple times on this forum that I am a conservative Libertarian. Thus any attempt of yours to make some kind of ideological connection is invalid.

OK, Joe the Plumber, whatever, so who is your Leader? I have Barack Obama. Who do you have? Does your soapbox have wheels? Without a representative, you're just some guy mumbling to himself. Did you vote for McCain?

[The Conquistador]

Originally Posted by jimnaseum

OK, Joe the Plumber, whatever, so who is your Leader? I have Barack Obama. Who do you have? Does your soapbox have wheels? Without a representative, you're just some guy mumbling to himself. Did you vote for McCain?

Look and ye shall find...

[Talvenada]

Originally Posted by TheAngryPostman

Look and ye shall find...

ANGRY:

Palin!

TAL

[The Conquistador]

Originally Posted by Talvenada

ANGRY:

Palin!

TAL

Nope. Guess again Tal.

Although I would not hesitate to analize both her and her daughter...






HINT: It is a couple pages back in this very thread!