Barack Obama

[Talvenada]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Yeah... what happened after a month into BO's term? He spent 2.5 times as much as Bush did during his entire 8 years! And that includes Bush's $700 billion Wall Street bailout! And it wasn't Glenn Beck that started the Tea Parties. This is what started it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEDlod2V80U

TRACY:

So, what would you have done? Nothing or more tax cuts? Why didn't Bush do nothing or more tax cuts? I put tea parties in parenthesis, because of the tax-day protest and not the founding of. Sorry, I wasn't totally clear on that which was a Ron Paul Libertarian design.

TAL

[jimnaseum]

Fuzzy Math and Teabagger IQs aren't going to sink the Democrats, it's going to sink the Republicans. The baggers are already bickering with Sarah Palin because she's supporting McCain over some wacko DJ in Arizona. Every time any serious Republican candidate is pressed on the birthers, or death panels, or evolution, or Rush Limbo, you can see them disappear before your eyes. The Democrats don't need ACORN, but the Republicans need Glenn Beck. Good luck with that.
BTW, wasn't Obama magnificent last night?

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by Talvenada

TRACY:

So, what would you have done? Nothing or more tax cuts? Why didn't Bush do nothing or more tax cuts? I put tea parties in parenthesis, because of the tax-day protest and not the founding of. Sorry, I wasn't totally clear on that which was a Ron Paul Libertarian design.

I think Ron Paul had it right. We should never have done the Wall Street bailout in the first place because we can't afford it. If you're deep in debt, anyone with a brain knows you don't put yourself further in debt. That's obvious and I can't believe it has to be explained.

And you don't do nothing. The budget MUST BE BALANCED! This is another thing that is so obvious it shouldn't need explaining. There's tons of pork that we're paying for, and everybody knows it. Cut that crap out.

We need to transform the country so that we produce actual goods, not just services. When we export goods, we lower our deficit. And the way to do that is NOT by increasing taxes on corporations. They will scale their production down, go bankrupt or leave the country.

Yes, it will be painful for a few years. Pain is the only way to lower the deficit, but when we do, we will be much stronger as a nation. What BO is doing is propping up every bad idea that has failed so that it stays with us and continues to screw us.

And btw, even doing nothing would be better than what BO has done. The economy started to recover before the stimulus package had a chance to go into effect.

[Talvenada]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

I think Ron Paul had it right. We should never have done the Wall Street bailout in the first place because we can't afford it. If you're deep in debt, anyone with a brain knows you don't put yourself further in debt. That's obvious and I can't believe it has to be explained.

And you don't do nothing. The budget MUST BE BALANCED! This is another thing that is so obvious it shouldn't need explaining. There's tons of pork that we're paying for, and everybody knows it. Cut that crap out.

We need to transform the country so that we produce actual goods, not just services. When we export goods, we lower our deficit. And the way to do that is NOT by increasing taxes on corporations. They will scale their production down, go bankrupt or leave the country.

Yes, it will be painful for a few years. Pain is the only way to lower the deficit, but when we do, we will be much stronger as a nation. What BO is doing is propping up every bad idea that has failed so that it stays with us and continues to screw us.

And btw, even doing nothing would be better than what BO has done. The economy started to recover before the stimulus package had a chance to go into effect.

TRACY:

So, you don't believe Cheney when he said they had to do the bailout to avoid a Great Depression?


TAL

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by Talvenada

TRACY:

So, you don't believe Cheney when he said they had to do the bailout to avoid a Great Depression?

No. We weren't heading for a great depression. Tough times, yes, but not a great depression. Free market is a system of profit and loss. When the government tries to hide the loss, it fucks with the system and turns it into something else.

Oh, and another thing. We have to get back on the gold standard.

[Talvenada]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

No. We weren't heading for a great depression. Tough times, yes, but not a great depression. Free market is a system of profit and loss. When the government tries to hide the loss, it fucks with the system and turns it into something else.

Oh, and another thing. We have to get back on the gold standard.

TRACY:

Are you aware of the electronic run on the banks in mid-September '08?

TAL

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by Talvenada

TRACY:

Are you aware of the electronic run on the banks in mid-September '08?

TAL

Yes, very aware.

[jimnaseum]

Let's get down to facts, shall we?
The GOP is going to vote on a "Purity Resolution" today, proposing that all Republican Candidates must adhere to at least 8 out of 10 Conservative Values (taxes, illegal immigrants, guns, gays, etc) or be denied GOP funding. It is an attempt to bring the TRUE BELIEVERS and the REPUBLICAN PARTY together.
Now,.....my money says the party of NO is going to say no to this.
Looks like business as usual over at the GOP.

[Talvenada]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Yes, very aware.

TRACY:

So, Bush was wrong to do the bailout?

That means if Obama does nothing or what you wanted, you'd be happy?

If things failed doing things your way, you would not criticize Obama?


TAL