Barack Obama

[transjen]

Originally Posted by TheAngryPostman

. What we need is for healthcare to be more competitive. Competition spurs growth, and growth increases supply and the more you have of something, the less the cost will be. Sure, some medical plans may not be the fanciest and provide ass reduction surgery or something like that, but it would definetly cover the basics and that's all anyone really needs. The rest is just bonus. I don't know about you but I'd like to to choose from either Provider A, Provider B, Provider C, Provider D, Provider F or Provider G rather than get stitched up at Peoples Medical Facility # 274.

The would be ideal but you know it will never happen look at Bush's drug plan for medicare drug prices haven't gone down they went up and when W gave them his drug plan he said that comatition would bring down drug prices logical yes but the drug companies don't compete with each other they hang together as does the health insurence companies eho were given antitrust protection which allows them to met and set rates


Jennifer

[The Conquistador]

Originally Posted by transjen

The would be ideal but you know it will never happen look at Bush's drug plan for medicare drug prices haven't gone down they went up and when W gave them his drug plan he said that comatition would bring down drug prices logical yes but the drug companies don't compete with each other they hang together as does the health insurence companies eho were given antitrust protection which allows them to met and set rates


Jennifer

No, it would work. What we need is for the Gov. to stop meddling with private business. Medicare is another Gov. run crock-o-crap. Why did the drug plan not work? Since the "man" runs Medicare, it just went back to him. It was only done as a sort of publicity stunt to show that the Gov. is actually doing something regardless of who benefits from it to keep people from getting pissed off. All it was was a warm, fuzzy feeling that did nothing. There was no competition going on since it was all funneled through a Gov. program.

An institution that has been known to pocket your money for themselves and leave you with "lowest bidder" products (Government)

vs.

Multiple institutions that compete for your cash and put out superior products(private business)



The choice ain't that hard.

[The Conquistador]

In other news: I had a Chile Relleno burrito from 7-11. I feels good!

[transjen]

Originally Posted by TheAngryPostman

In other news: I had a Chile Relleno burrito from 7-11. I feels good!

DANGER WILL ROBINSON DANGER gas alert gas alert


Jerseygirl Jen

[The Conquistador]

It's the only burrito that tastes good and doesn't cause me to shit myself.:D

[transjen]

Originally Posted by TheAngryPostman

It's the only burrito that tastes good and doesn't cause me to shit myself.:D

All i know is that every time my boyfriend eats one of those he farts like there's no tommorow


Jerseygirl Jen

[The Conquistador]

The Chile Relleno burrito has no beans in it; it's a Serrano pepper stuffed with cheese, fried in an egg batter, surrounded with some more cheese and wrapped with a tortilla. No anal nerve agents produced


Beans, beans the musical fruit...

[transjen]

Originally Posted by TheAngryPostman

No, it would work. What we need is for the Gov. to stop meddling with private business. Medicare is another Gov. run crock-o-crap. Why did the drug plan not work? Since the "man" runs Medicare, it just went back to him. It was only done as a sort of publicity stunt to show that the Gov. is actually doing something regardless of who benefits from it to keep people from getting pissed off. All it was was a warm, fuzzy feeling that did nothing. There was no competition going on since it was all funneled through a Gov. program.

An institution that has been known to pocket your money for themselves and leave you with "lowest bidder" products (Government)

vs.

Multiple institutions that compete for your cash and put out superior products(private business)



The choice ain't that hard.

So we should just let the health insurence compties do what ever the want after all we can trust big bussiness right well that kind of thinking lead to the whole WALL STREET mess the choice ain't that hard strip the health insurence companies of there anti trust proctection then perhaps prices will come down as they will no longer be able to meet in private and decide how much to charge


Jerseygirl Jen

[The Conquistador]

Originally Posted by transjen

So we should just let the health insurence compties do what ever the want after all we can trust big bussiness right well that kind of thinking lead to the whole WALL STREET mess the choice ain't that hard strip the health insurence companies of there anti trust proctection then perhaps prices will come down as they will no longer be able to meet in private and decide how much to charge


Jerseygirl Jen

I'm not saying that businessess are squeaky clean, but given the choice, I'd pick the lesser of the two evils. People learn, Governments don't.

[transjen]

Originally Posted by TheAngryPostman

I'm not saying that businessess are squeaky clean, but given the choice, I'd pick the lesser of the two evils. People learn, Governments don't.

And that is why there anti trust protection needs to be taken away and someone needs to watch over em to make sure they play fair to let them do what ever they want will leave us in the same mess we are in now, I find it hard to belive that any company that pays there CEO over a hundred million+ per year want to see any kind of reform and will do what's best for the suckers who have there policy. We are the only country who has a for profit healthcare system and the drug companies and health insurance don't want anything to change. Something needs to change good healthcare should not be reserverd for the rich but should be for everyone


Jerseygirl Jen

[The Conquistador]

Originally Posted by transjen

Something needs to change good healthcare should not be reserverd for the rich but should be for everyone

Read this: http://www.arthurshall.com/x_2007_healthcare.shtml

1) Healthcare is one of those things where it is a personal responsibility. While your body can regenerate, it is your responsibility to take care of it. I shouldn't have to have my money taken from me because some lardass doesn't have enough self control to stop eating Ho-Hos; if they want to self -induce diabetes, they can do it on their own dime. Same thing with people who are cavalier with their body. Your health is not my responsibility.

2) It is not an entitlement just for being popped out of someones crotch. If you don't work and contribute nothing, you deserve nothing. I shouldn't have to pay for some welfare bums medical treatments after he gets a nightstick shoved up his ass by the cop he tried to shoot. Society needs to reward those who are hardworking, successful and positive, not burden them with "guilt" because some loser is "less fortunate".

3) What I do with my money is my damn business, not the governments. Who the hell needs more red tape in their lives?

4) The ER is for EMERGENCIES ONLY! If you're a hypochondriac who worries about getting cancer from a paper cut, you need to see a shrink, not a surgeon. If you're a cheap bitch who can't shell out $3 for some Tylenol and wastes time getting it free from the ER, don't be surprised when I give you an even bigger headache with a tire iron.

5) Having the Gov. tell me that I need this is equivalent to telling me that I am a knucklewalking schmuck who is incapable of making coherent decisions myself, so I need a G-man to do it for me. I don't take kindly to being called an idiot, especially by lazy, self-serving bureaucrats.

6) Dr. Thomas Sowell: "If you have been voting for politicians who promise to give you goodies at someone else's expense, then you have no right to complain when they take your money and give it to someone else, including themselves."

[transjen]

So only the rich should be taken care of and screw the poor guy who maybe is stuck between jobs and no longer has any health ins just let him suffer with a broken arm or how about those who are stuck at a low paying job who can't afford to buy there own so i guess it to bad for them just let them die after all it's there own fault they are not rich and only the rich deserve top health care
Jerseygirl Jen