Self Defense

[DSL]

I can get 3 shot groups with my 357 magnum at 30 feet away
nearly dead center, with my 03-A3 springfield a 3 shot group
at 500 yards!, without a scope mount the peephole is allways kept clear
you aim thru and she will fire thru.

[Tread]

Originally Posted by Rachel

Hey Tread what do you guys do over there if someone breaks into your home with the intent to rob and maybe hurt you? Fight like a Frenchman? I surrender!

Usually only call the police, cause they do it when nobody is at home, or they run away if they get spotted.
If the risk is too high, surrender is not the worst act (if you have a gun or not). Some would probably lock their self in a room and call the police. Other would chase them away, or fight them (with or without weapons). There are as much behaviours as in the US, only that guns are less common.
I don't know what I would do, the case isn't clear enough, and I never was in such a situation. I would probably call the police try to get something to identify the person (photo, car licence number, robber belongings, protect objects with fingerprints) before the person run away. If the person wants to hurt me, I would defend me in a reasonable way (this doesn't sound like a you or I death situation). If I can I would arrest the person until police is there (depending how fast, strong and what happens).


It is/was really difficult for me to not post more to your statements, but this would start a discussion that was/is not my intension.

[The Conquistador]

Originally Posted by DSL

I can get 3 shot groups with my 357 magnum at 30 feet away
nearly dead center, with my 03-A3 springfield a 3 shot group
at 500 yards!, without a scope mount the peephole is allways kept clear
you aim thru and she will fire thru.

Oooooh! Oooooh! Oooooh! Is it a Springfield Armory or Rock Island Armory 1903? Gibbs Rifle Company is making 1903A4s that look pretty damn close to the real thing, the only noticeable differences that I could see were the markings on the rifle.

[randolph]

Originally Posted by TheAngryPostman

Oooooh! Oooooh! Oooooh! Is it a Springfield Armory or Rock Island Armory 1903? Gibbs Rifle Company is making 1903A4s that look pretty damn close to the real thing, the only noticeable differences that I could see were the markings on the rifle.

My dad had a 30 40 Kraig(sic), does that mean anything?
He used it for deer hunting.

[Rachel]

I'm sorry I took a good jab at you there. Hope you arent French lol Being that this thread started as self defense lets get to the heart of the matter. First and foremost is your mindset. The will to survive. By whatever means neccesary. Surrender isnt an option in my book. I'd rather go down swinging then die on my knees. If you have a choice of a weapon to defend your self with what would you choose? I'd take a bat over a stick. I'll take a firearm over the bat. I'll take a large gun over a smaller one.

[randolph]

Originally Posted by Rachel

I'm sorry I took a good jab at you there. Hope you arent French lol Being that this thread started as self defense lets get to the heart of the matter. First and foremost is your mindset. The will to survive. By whatever means neccesary. Surrender isnt an option in my book. I'd rather go down swinging then die on my knees. If you have a choice of a weapon to defend your self with what would you choose? I'd take a bat over a stick. I'll take a firearm over the bat. I'll take a large gun over a smaller one.

I have a little story about security. We have a house security system. It can be turned on of with hand held remotes. One of the buttons on the remote sends a silent alarm to the Sheriff. One day I came home shortly after my wife went to the market. I walked into the house with no alarm, went upstairs to my office and checked my computer. As I was sitting there I heard a noise downstairs. As I walked out of my room, two police officers pointed their guns at me and shouted "freeze". Needless to say I froze. I was shocked and asked what was going on. They said there was an emergency alarm here. My wife had intended to set the house alarm instead she pushed the emergency silent alarm button. I had a rifle in my room, I wonder what would have happened if I had come out of the room carrying it. Needless to say ,we disabled the silent alarm.

[Tread]

Originally Posted by Rachel

I'm sorry I took a good jab at you there. Hope you arent French lol Being that this thread started as self defense lets get to the heart of the matter. First and foremost is your mindset. The will to survive. By whatever means neccesary. Surrender isnt an option in my book. I'd rather go down swinging then die on my knees. If you have a choice of a weapon to defend your self with what would you choose? I'd take a bat over a stick. I'll take a firearm over the bat. I'll take a large gun over a smaller one.

I don't noticed a good jab, it's more that you have a wide open cover for counterattacks in your most statements. Like: your will to survive against never surrender, even it means you die for one dollar then giving it unharmed away to a predominant robber.
I stop responding to you in this thread, because I think if I start it would easily escalade. If you really want to force out my opinion to your gun views, you have to create a better fitting thread and only eventually I would post there one or two things.

[Rachel]

Awww another Christmas present I wont be getting

[SweetCharmer]

Originally Posted by Rachel

If you have a choice of a weapon to defend your self with what would you choose?

well for me it would have to be any of my 7 blades i have in my room ranging from 6inches to FKING big but if i had a choice out of guns too i'd have to pick the colt .45 something about it i like dunno why

[The Conquistador]

Actually Mr. Randolph, it's "Krag", a Norwegian designed rifle. It was the first American military firearm to use smokeless powder instead of a compressed black powder loading and was carried by Teddy Roosevelt when he hit San Juan Hill.

http://www.gunsandammomag.com/cs/Sat...agenum%3D1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krag-J%C3%B8rgensen

It is quite similar to the .303 British round in dimension and power (but not interchangeable)

http://gunsandammomag.com/cs/Satelli...OR+.30-40+Krag

http://gunsandammomag.com/cs/Satelli...R+.303+British

and has an unusual loading system (unusual in that it loads by means of a trapdoor and not a stripper clip like comparable Mauser or Mannlicher rifles of the time). Some purists will talk shit about the round and attributes of the rifle but until someone quantifies "dead", it is still useful for killing things like milk jugs, watermelons, large game and Spaniards. A good sturdy rifle overall.

[randolph]

Originally Posted by TheAngryPostman

Actually Mr. Randolph, it's "Krag", a Norwegian designed rifle. It was the first American military firearm to use smokeless powder instead of a compressed black powder loading and was carried by Teddy Roosevelt when he hit San Juan Hill.

http://www.gunsandammomag.com/cs/Sat...gs=pagenum%3D1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krag-J%C3%B8rgensen

It is quite similar to the .303 British round in dimension and power (but not interchangeable)

http://gunsandammomag.com/cs/Satelli...OR+.30-40+Krag

http://gunsandammomag.com/cs/Satelli...R+.303+British

and has an unusual loading system (unusual in that it loads by means of a trapdoor and not a stripper clip like comparable Mauser or Mannlicher rifles of the time). Some purists will talk shit about the round and attributes of the rifle but until someone quantifies "dead", it is still useful for killing things like milk jugs, watermelons, large game and Spaniards. A good sturdy rifle overall.

I also have my grandfathers H&R American double Action 5 shot 38 cal with a six inch hex barrel. Pre 1898 version. (photo of 4 inch model)
I don't think I would want to try it with modern ammo.

[The Conquistador]

Originally Posted by randolph

I also have my grandfathers H&R American double Action 5 shot 38 cal with a six inch hex barrel. Pre 1898 version. (photo of 4 inch model)
I don't think I would want to try it with modern ammo.

Yes. Do NOT try to run modern ammo through it! This pistol was chambered for Black Powder ammo and will create dangerous pressures when fired with smokeless powder. Unless you reload, don't go to the store and buy a box of .38 ammo for it.

If you ever take up reloading, you can build your own "flavors" of ammo. I have a loading press at home and I load 30-06 and .223. It's a fun hobby.

[DSL]

Talk about a kick now that is about the biggest gun that
i have fired with a big kick, and when using xx highpower loads.
my sister lives about a mile and a half from that firing range
and she can hear me shooting it.i used a 180 grain full metal jacket xx bullet
that had a big kick i am surprised the range officer let me fire that thing
i have to ask permission when firing large cal. guns.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcAgEgbIBcg

.p.s. that guy in the video looks all most like me too

Originally Posted by TheAngryPostman

Oooooh! Oooooh! Oooooh! Is it a Springfield Armory or Rock Island Armory 1903? Gibbs Rifle Company is making 1903A4s that look pretty damn close to the real thing, the only noticeable differences that I could see were the markings on the rifle.