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If you are OK with using a .22 that's fine. My own handgun training discussed "stopping power" and whether or not an attacker might still be able to come after you. The minimum recommended was a .380. Some of the modern .22 loads with hollow points can pack a pretty good punch too so if you are OK using that then that's what you should go with.
It looks like we are beginning to lose track of the intent of my original posting which was to encourage people to not be afraid to stand up and defend themselves. Also if they do decide to get a gun--to learn how to use it--safely. I have taught many people how to shoot and several people on this forum have told me they really liked my post. |
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Your posts were ok but you missed several important points I feel. One thing I do feel stongly on is Should you buy a gun? The answer should have been YES if for no other reason then that you CAN. Your liberal friends would have us all as subjects to the Crown in a disarmed populace. Another thing you didnt emphasize is a survival attitude. It's them or me! Fuck consequence! And I'll tell you this... Anyone ever did to me or my family like what happened to the member beaten up by cops there would be some people sporting some extra holes in them. Whomever they were.
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My own feelings on the matter are much like yours actually--almost identical. Perhaps I should have been more forceful in my original post? Did you see what I own? That I have a license to carry. That I do carry. I also have a 12 ga Remington 870 if anyone should break into my home as well as an AR-15. My liberal friends and I disagree about this issue (as well as many others). I am most definitely NOT your typical academic.
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I live in New York so unfortunately, I can't own an AR-15. I want to move to Florida, where it is warmer and because gun laws are pretty awesome.
On a sad note, regarding the need for self defense and weapons, my roommate just informed me that two of her friends were murdered yesterday, both of them transsexuals, by gun shot. They apparently were witnesses to a murder. Witness protection apparently failed or the police simply didn't care. |
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*More posts than Bionca* [QUOTE=God(from Futurama)]Right and wrong are just words; what matters is what you do... If you do too much, people get dependent on you. And if you do nothing, they lose hope... When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all. |
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Well i was listening to my police scanner yesterday afternoon
and i herd over the radio some guy got stabbed!, down the street from where i live. it was so serious they rushed him to the hosiptal, and 4 police cruisers there. which is one of the reasons why i pack a handgun around here!... to top it off the local police dept. is just a half mile away too.a guy at work had his bike stollen from him right out of his apartment a brand new mongoose if that were my bike i i told him i would have giving him my knight stick right up side of his head, poor guy went out and got a new bike and he is unarmed.they will be more on the stabbing tonight on our local ch. 12 news. Last edited by DSL; 10-06-2009 at 02:08 PM. |
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I live about 1/4 miles away from a drug and gang zone called "Yates Village" which is an apartment complex neighborhood. Everyday and I literally mean EVERYDAY, police, fire and EMS speed by my house to go there. Everyday there is a stabbing, on occasion a shooting. Fortunately they seem to keep the violence and BS within their own little complex section but there have been incidents of crime at my house. I live in a small apartment building. My neighbor's apartment was robbed. The only thing missing was a big flat screen TV. Not long after, a shooting occurred right in front of my apartment and WE (my roommates and me) are involved in the incident. I posted a Myspace blog about what was going on. It's a gang issue. A man was killed in a drive-by on my front steps.
Not to de-rail the thread but for anyone interested in the gang issue, which is somewhat on subject, here is the blog I wrote about the gang incident at my apartment, copy and pasted: "I am caught in the middle of a gang war in my city, Schenectady, New York. A guy me and my roommates used to be friends with stole $600 and a gun from me and $178 from my roommate. He fled before we knew he robbed from us. He was staying the night and while we slept, he took the items and left. We called police a couple days later, when we first noticed the stuff missing and filed a report. A warrant for his arrest was served for Grand Larceny in the Third Degree, a Class D felony in New York State. Weeks later the dumbass has the nerve to call my roommate and admits to stealing the money but denies stealing the gun. He claimed that he stole my money so he could bail his mother out of jail or some shit. He was supposedly in South Carolina or Georgia. A week ago we find out the truth. In the middle of the night, the brother of the guy who robbed us comes banging on the door of our apartment, covered in blood. My roommates refuse to open the door and call police. A minute later five gunshots are fired from a passing car. Apparently he dies of his wounds later on. The drive-by shooting resulted in dings, dents and scratches on my car and on my roommate's car from bullet impacts. We didn't know anything about what was going on, who came to the door and why this happened until a few days later when two gang members came to the house while me and one of my roommates was out. My second roommate was home alone and like a fucking idiot, answered the door and talked with the two men. They said that the guy who was shot was the brother of the man who stole from me. Apparently the guy who robbed me never left Schenectady. He stole the money and gun for a gang initiation. His dumbass joined a gang (Bloods, Crips, etc I don't know or care) and his brother stole $1,000 from him. That is why he was shot and chased to our apartment and then killed from the drive-by. These gang members that came to house are looking for revenge for the drive-by and want to know where the guy who robbed me is. They knew that he used to be friends with us and frequently hung out at our apartment. That is why they came, looking to kill him. My roommate explained that he no longer is friends with us because he robbed me. Even after the explanation, the idiots threaten to kill us if we had anything to do with the shooting. I get back from shopping with my roommate and she explains about who came to the apartment, etc. She doesn't want to call the police. She fears they will come back. Apparently they were coming back anyway because they want to talk to me. I said if they come back, people are gonna die. Not long after, guess who calls my roommate again.... the guy who robbed us, wanting to know if anyone came to the house asking about him. I'm now armed at all times while in the apartment and installed a security camera outside the apartment. If anyone tries coming back to this apartment, a fire fight is going to break out and I will put that shit on YouTube, unedited. I am now hunting for the guy who robbed me and the moment I find him, will chase him down and arrest him under citizens arrest laws. I couldn't actually care less about justice. I want my $600 back. So here I am now, in the middle of a gang war. Both sides have made threats or are threatening in nature toward me and my roommates. Police are useless because of their response time (about 45 minutes). Police are aware of the drive-by incident and are aware of the robbery incident. There is nothing else they can do. So at this point, I sit at home with a gun in a holster, on my waist, waiting for someone to try and fuck with me. Oh and what makes this worse is that gang members are typically not fond of transsexuals. August 30 Update: The guy I am now hunting to get my money back has joined a variation of the Bloods. Apparently their color is yellow. They are from New York City. I didn't know what gang he joined but now I know. Bloods variant. I hate the Bloods. I've had previous problems with them when I used to live in Newburgh, New York. That issue didn't last too long and wasn't as severe as the current crisis. Today my roommate was driving home from the store and spotted the guy I was looking for. He saw her as well and fled into his house. I know where he lives now. I'm deciding on what I should do. If I was to call police, they can check out the house but without a warrant to search, they can't enter. He does have a felony warrant for his arrest though. Both of my roommates now fear an imminent attack because of the random run-in of my roommate and the guy. This is it. D-Day is closing in. Additional Note: I previously stated that the guy I am hunting shot his brother because the brother stole $1,000 from the gang. This is not true. Apparently the guy I am hunting was required to both steal cash (he stole from me) and had to shoot his own brother, to get initiation into the gang. The murder and robbery was a gang initiation." That's my blog. I am no longer hunting for the guy but the situation still exists. I carry a knife in my purse while out of the house. My car is a weapon as well as the high powered pellet rifle in the trunk of the car which can and will kill if shot in the right place. While in the house, I have a gun holstered on my waist. I also plan on buying pepper spray for my purse. On a happier note, here is a banana fucking a banana >>>>> ![]() |
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Hott!!! I love an armed gurl...
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Well Little Miss Pixie you struck a nerve with me. Unladylike? Hmm I thought we were talking life or death decisions here? And I thought you were talking about me head hunting road kills lol! And by the way Subjects of the Crown is a Revolutionary war era saying. And then you insulted all us Northerners by calling us Yankees. Be glad you live where you do. Here in New Germany( New Jersey) it's practically impossible to get a CCW permit unless you are very connected. I still carry occasionally though. I'd rather be judged by 12 then carried by six.
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20 years old and you think you know everything huh little girl? Maybe you should have a thread like Jenae's?
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Nah , all you kids are know- it- alls LOL. I should know I have 2 teenagers. And I supervise two 22 year olds at work. You still fighting the Civil War? WTF was with the Yankee remark? Apparently you have never met any of us Jersey Girls. I'm sorry we arent the polite Southern belles like you. I grew up in North Jersey in the city. Ran the streets before you were even a twinkle in your daddies eye kid. Been in more fights then you could imagine. And still have a pretty face at 44 years old. Wanna know one of my secrets honey? Brass knuckles. They never expect a punch in the face they see an open hand.
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Having lived in many dangerous areas in the US and abroad I have to say the best weapon is a sharp mind. First stay out of a potentially dangerous situations.
Second in close quarters the best weapon is one that can be deployed quickly and with the element of surprise. For most woman I think that mace or pepper spray is the best option. It is small, you can discreetly and non-threateningly hold it in your hand, and no real aim is required. It fits nicely even in a small purse or boot. Remember almost all attackers just need to be slowed down or even surprised for you to make a successful escape. For in home defense a gun is good but act responsibly and keep it locked at all times especially if you have kids or are visited by children. Again most of the time you will never need to discharge your weapon just showing it will do the trick. BTW I am partial to 9mms Last edited by dre_jones; 10-07-2009 at 10:14 AM. |
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Here's some funny pics.
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Can you please go back to posting videos and pictures of you being fucked?
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You've been here since January and the first thing you write is that?
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well if your talking to me also just letting you know, i just moved here
2 months ago lol thought it would have been a quieter place but i didn't think so. well its not that bad around here now just that one stabbing down the street but what was scary about it tho it happend 10 minutes after i was walking up the hill to go home, and the guy who was stabbed was the same age as me 49. Quote:
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Originally I am from Michigan as many of you know but I currently live in Indianapolis. If you live in the mid-west you have probably seen this guy on TV. He's actually pretty cool and drives a Corvette.
![]() ![]() I teach mostly at the IUPUI (Indiana University/Purdue University at Indianapolis) campus downtown and also at Bloomington. Indiana has some of the least stringent gun laws in the USA. I could go out and buy a pistol today and bring it home. I have a "lifetime" permit to carry as well. The only major "restrictions" involve "riverboat casinos" and "commercial aircraft." I am quite sure (not 100%) that you can own "fully automatic" weapons as well here. Down in southern Indiana there a lot of places to shoot. Also great places to ride... Look me up if you are ever this way. Last edited by aw9725; 02-24-2010 at 11:24 PM. |
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I feel I must say this to all on the Forum. I did get all bitchy with our new member Pixie and we had some harsh words posted towards each other. I did chat with her in private and I apologized and we kissed and made up. And yes Pixie, fear for your sanity as you get older! lol I'm a cranky, old ,fat bitch sometimes.
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For me it sounds like an excuse to have a big home defence weapon, cause I don’t see the need. Maybe you can change that with the examples you want to post. I have a car because I would walk 14 hours or 4 hours a day to get to work, depending where (changes sometimes). I need 1 hour to get one way to the city. And I don’t have to carry things I buy. Quote:
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But projectile weapons could also hit my family, even a well trained SWAT-team or whatever can’t do this without risk, for my family, at close gun combat. My irrational paranoia. ![]() From statements I have given in this forum and other info here it is supposable that I have something to do with Europe. |
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A burglar broke into a house one night. He shined his flashlight around, looking for valuables, and when he picked up a CD player to place in his pack, a strange, disembodied voice echoed from the dark saying, "Jesus is watching you."
He nearly jumped out of his skin, clicked his flashlight out, and froze. When he heard nothing more after a bit, he shook his head, then clicked the light on and began searching for more valuables. Just as he pulled the stereo out so he could disconnect the wires, clear as a bell he heard again, "Jesus is watching you." Freaked out, he shone his light around frantically, looking for the source of the voice. Finally, in the corner of the room, his flashlight beam came to rest on a parrot. "Did you say that?", he asked the parrot. "Yep," the parrot confessed, then squawked, "I'm just trying to warn you." The burglar relaxed. "Warn me, huh? Who in the world are you?" "Moses," replied the bird. "Moses?" the burglar laughed. "What kind of people would name a bird Moses?" "The kind of people that would name their Rottweiler Jesus." |
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You have a car because it is more efficient in terms of time, distance and practical uses, correct? I own a rifle because it is more efficient compared to OC spray and tasers because of the standoff distance which doesn't require me to get in within arms distance of an assailant to use it. Quote:
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The 4 Rules of Firearms Safety 1) The gun is always loaded. (Even if you have just unloaded it, you still treat it as if it was loaded) 2) Never point the gun at something you are not willing to destroy. 3) Keep your finger off of the trigger until you are ready to shoot. 4) Be sure of your target and what is beyond or around it. Mr. Tread. Alot of these risks can be mitigated with common sense rules like this. Training is key when handling firearms. Should you become proficient in handling a firearm, you will not have to worry about accidently hitting your family as things like this will make you more aware of what you are doing and how you are doing it. SWAT teams are usually called in for a barricaded hostage situation, not home invasions.
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*More posts than Bionca* [QUOTE=God(from Futurama)]Right and wrong are just words; what matters is what you do... If you do too much, people get dependent on you. And if you do nothing, they lose hope... When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all. Last edited by The Conquistador; 10-13-2009 at 03:34 PM. |
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Has anyone fired this thing yet? whats your thoughts how was the kick?
massive or just a little kick. me i wouldn't want to fire that thing in the first place for one thing i think its outlawed in the state of Massachusetts the handgun is the Smith & Wesson Model 500 .50-Cal. Magnum Is The King Of Handguns worlds most powerfull handgun. the bullet would probably go right threw the gun range sand and tire backstop. |
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*More posts than Bionca* [QUOTE=God(from Futurama)]Right and wrong are just words; what matters is what you do... If you do too much, people get dependent on you. And if you do nothing, they lose hope... When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all. |
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I still prefer a 9mm, .40, .38 Special or .380 for defense. Maybe a .357 or .45 if you are experienced and can handle the recoil. My "ex" could handle my Beretta with no problem and she was only like 5'5" 130. Also the bigger the gun--the harder it is to conceal. You know Clint dosen't have to carry that thing around with him all day--he just returns it to the prop department when the scene is over! LOL! ![]() For my home, a 12 ga works well. I have a standard Remington 870 that I got at K-Mart. I have added a pistol grip and a shorter barrel. My AR-15 would most likely go through the walls and kill the neighbors ![]() I think a lot of ranges would ban the .50. I know Don's used to only allow up to a .44 factory load. No handloads. Sounds like it would be a "blast" to shoot! If ever any of you are in Indiana or Michigan look me up. |
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thats what we need everyone with guns.... what the hell.. selfdefense? forget about all that high kicking 1 punch knock out rubbish, unless you practice it nearly daily, your just gonna get yourself in trouble (and a black belt means you can only kick arse in your club- some clubs hand out black belts just if you can afford the price). if you really need some lessons then try krav maga, but you still need to practice, power doesnt just happen no matter how many weights you lift. need speed and technique, plus knowing where to strike. best bet is to take your heels off throw it at them run and dial the police on your mobile then run to a place with the most people.. if you can get pepper spray, THEN RUN.. be aware of your surrondings, dont venture into situations (when alone) where you maybe vunerable.. is not a perfect world, be aware of where your walking. dont think cure think prevention..
blah blah blah.. finger nails in the eyes (hard, not a little poke), real hard kick to the bollocks (following through), punch to the throat (again hard, if you have no training dont pressume you can hit like tyson, because you cant..) the eyes and throat , as you know are sensetive dont be striking to the just cause they called you ugly, life threatening situation- then leave no doubt, strike hard, with conviction, THEN RUN. sorry but cars are more dangerouse then guns.. only because they are more available. last i heard it wasnt cars being used in wars (unless they were getting blown up, it was guns). bank robbers dont use cars to hold up banks, the SAS dont rescue hostages using a nissan (unless its a jean claude vann dame film!!).. Last edited by kilich321; 12-17-2009 at 06:35 PM. |
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Saw some of this go down as I was on the way home Friday. I shop at this Wal-Mart occasionally. At night... I like it 'cause it isn't ever crowded. LOL!
http://www.theindychannel.com/news/22379097/detail.html Last edited by aw9725; 01-30-2010 at 10:54 PM. |
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*More posts than Bionca* [QUOTE=God(from Futurama)]Right and wrong are just words; what matters is what you do... If you do too much, people get dependent on you. And if you do nothing, they lose hope... When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all. |
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Vincent Cooke was arrested for murder >>>click here<<< after two scum tried to force their way through his front door.
Burglar Raymond Jacob had a fucking knife which Vincent grabbed off him, then he killed the fucker. Vincent's wife and young child were on their way home and arrived towards the end of the attack. If you live in the UK and need to defend your life by killing some evil scum. Do not report to the police but dispose of the body. I hate the UK. |
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Just picked up my Glock 17 today! Pics to come!
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*More posts than Bionca* [QUOTE=God(from Futurama)]Right and wrong are just words; what matters is what you do... If you do too much, people get dependent on you. And if you do nothing, they lose hope... When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all. |
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My Glock and my bayonet!
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*More posts than Bionca* [QUOTE=God(from Futurama)]Right and wrong are just words; what matters is what you do... If you do too much, people get dependent on you. And if you do nothing, they lose hope... When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all. |
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Just because I'm telling you this story doesn't mean that I'm alive at the end of it. If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so. DEO VINDICE |
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Far be it from me to comment on the employment of firearms or sharp objects for self-defense by any member of this site, but personally I have succeeded rather well over the years using this:
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*More posts than Bionca* [QUOTE=God(from Futurama)]Right and wrong are just words; what matters is what you do... If you do too much, people get dependent on you. And if you do nothing, they lose hope... When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all. |
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