Fakes & Fakes Threads Not Allowed

[Clem McGraw]

Originally Posted by ila

What is so hard to understand about the post quoted below? There will be no more fakes threads allowed.

There is nothing hard to understand about it, but it so happens that I agree with the thicker skulled posters. If you provided a sanctioned environment for fakes then perhaps you wouldn't get the confusion. You can't cut them off just because people don't have the shoop-eye, people don't label things correctly, some people unknowingly post fakes wanting more, and some people do it out of spite. There are and will still be morons who post fakes pretending to be real and you will not stop them. As a fake-lover, I vehemently proclaim this move is unjust.

[Jenae LaTorque]

If you think that these fantasy post of g girls is allright then I have a suggestion for you. Take a nude picture of yourself and open it with Photoshop. Now remove your dick and paste in a pussy. Or better yet make up a pic of yourself being screwed by a big ugly guy.

Now post that on the internet. And make sure all of your friends and family see it. Since you love fakes, that should be just so satisfactory for you.

No way huh? So now just imagine how you would feel about the fakes if you were one of the g-girls so depicted. I love g girls for what they are just like I love t girls for what they are. If you can't appreciate the differances, then you are .

[Bionca]

I have to agree with Jenae 100% here. It may be fun and games to you guys, but posting fakes like this hurts trans women.

When there are plenty of examples of real live actual trans women, why would you need to shop one up? Seriously? Are real trans bodies not good enough? Or do you just need to slap us in the face and tell us "yer OK, but THIS is better"?

[Tread]

I know how fake pictures of one self feel. It can be bothering, unwanted or funny, but nothing more. It's a fake, and everyone knows it.
The pictures that hurt are faked pictures that show something embracing or unwanted and pretend to be real, without sign of a fake and people belief it shows reality.
Or pictures and videos that are took and spread without permission in unfavorable moments (damn mobile cams).

As a poll shows, many are here to fantasize about. I don't get it why a fantasy hurts feelings, insult someone on a porn site or is like a slap in the face.
A fantasy is a fantasy and don't replace reality.
It's like a drawn picture, a written story or most porn situations (that is made for customers and don't show reality). Does this hurt feelings too?
For the fact that they don't do it on free will, I would say: professional risk. Like making a parody of a famous person. In both cases it would be different if it is not noticeable a fake and people take this for real.

In my moral it is much worse to by magazines or watch TV shows that support paparazzi photos. That hurts people mentally and or physically in bad cases.



Interesting that someone who finds a ggirl with a penis insulting to her and love them for what they are has no problems with faking body proportions (where many have problems to see that it is a fake and don't show them as they are).
But I'm sure this, in a more subtle way, is a common act after photo shoots.

[Bionca]

Fake pics of cis women with penises reinforce the idea that trans bodies and identities are fake. It makes being a trans woman as simple as merging two pictures together, erasing everything else that goes with it.

Oh and...

"Like making a parody of a famous person."

I rest my case. My body is not a parody.

[Tread]

With the parody I meant the professional risk to get in public, a parody of the person, (no parody) nude fake with or without penis, public interests like photos, sign autographs and so on. I don't want to say the trans body is a parody. I' sorry if this can be read out.
I choose the parody to say that it would bad if someone pretends to be another person and make a false view of the person and people take that for real,
compared to that someone is outing a cis woman authentic as trans.

If it would reinforce the idea that trans bodies and identities are fake, people would think that trans women are not existing. Never heard of someone who was surprised that trans people are real and not only manipulated images.
The pics on this forum show although simple views, sometimes a part of physically development and rare after SRT. Everything else that goes with it is erased too.
To get a clue what goes with it, porn pictures are never enough.

[EdwardSinclair]

I have been reading your replies, and am at loss for words. My mind is baffled, you all show absolutely valid points, from completely different points of view. I was converted by one poster, and immediately converted back from another poster.

Jenae LaTorque had me almost feeling ashamed of myself, because I could see how it would upset me if I was in the shoes of the person having their pictures faked without permission.

Then I read Tread's post and it made me realise that if I were to follow this point of view I could no longer fantasize about any one person that hasn't given me consent to fantasize about them. I would only be allowed to fantasize about people who had given me consent to fantasize about them, regardless of my urges. I suppose it would make sense from a morality point of view, but would be impractical in practice, because one would need a will of steel!!

Then Bionca's post had me confused. Although I can clearly see how this offends you, I don't think an m2f trans will ever be regarded as fake. You must first understand the sexual desire that fuels such passion towards these fantasies. These are completely 2 different types of mind sets, and the sex industry knows this. To make you understand fully, I remind you of the example on how post-op m2f trans are not as marketable in the sex industry as pre-ops, not to say there isn't a market for post-ops (there is one).

Now my final thought on your posts is that sexual fantasies and desires aside, I don't think this will have any impact on the trans world. What you must understand is that the trans world is unique therefore not fake. People who really love trans will not really be interested in these "fakes", even if they find themselves curious to see, eventually they will come to realise that they've been cheated out of the real thing. Nothing fake can ever substitute the real thing! Plus there's more to a trans than just the body, our sexual orientation all starts from what we feel inside! Maybe the world would be better if we were all Intersexual (although asexual reproduction would be half the fun at least you'd have more choice).


I would also like to know what the reaction is in regards to the website futanaria com
It seems to me that the website has willing ladies who purposefully, play at being well endowed. I wonder if you would construe this as a parody? This website should enlighten people on how the sex industry really works, this is a gimmick dedicated entirely to people who like girls with fake dicks.

Another idea I got from all this talk of photoshop "fakeness" is... trying to use the same technology on a pre-op trans to see how they would look like with a vagina!! At least the technology could be put to good use!

Forgive me but I didn't intend to be rude to anyone nor invalidate your points, merely expressing my opinion here... and also I apologise for making it a bit long.

[Zworg]

the real thing is always better.