Ask Jenae for real answers - no games.

[sesame]

Thank you Jenae, for the neurofeedback thing.

Amen to the rest of your statement!

This point blank answer is really funny, so thanks again for using your sense of humour.:D


To Tracycoxx:

I have heard *some* people say that NASA is filled with Agenda-Pushing Bureaucrats! If that is true, then you cant blame the Congress for all the episodes that ended with a misfire! NASA itself needs an ablution.

[sesame]

Jenae, your answer was a Loooong one, but with little essence! No games, remember? Thats your promise. The facts about the cost and which brand to buy is not known to me. You can help me there if you want to. You have only mentioned a 100$ and nothing else!

Scientific Facts

We can know a lot about the brain with an eeg-neurofeedback device. And we can really control it. You know, Jenae, whats wrong with your analogy? You said we have access only to the external, when actually we have access to the most internal phenomenon of the brain.

Its the Mind!

So, we can monitor the waves with an eeg and the inside of the brain with the mind itself. And we can discover what clicks the generation of a particular brainwave. Thats why they call it feedback. Whatever thought or, emotion or, meditative mood causes a wave, we can feed more of it to the brain with the mind!

Waves:

alpha wave = usually occurs in dreaming. In wakeful state it denotes relaxed mood and contentment. It increases the efficiency of that individual.

Beta wave = nervous tension and anxiety, unhappiness.

Theta wave = usually happens in sleeping state. It may occur in waking state in short bursts... only to denote creative impulses and problem solving insights.

Delta wave = Complete relaxation. It occurs only in Deep Sleep state, where REM stops.

If you can control your brainwaves, you can be like ... ...
Albert Einstein or, Leonardo da Vinci. :D Yay!

[Jenae LaTorque]

Originally Posted by sesame

Jenae, your answer was a Loooong one, but with little essence! No games, remember? Thats your promise. The facts about the cost and which brand to buy is not known to me. You can help me there if you want to. You have only mentioned a 100$ and nothing else!

Originally Posted by sesame

Scientific Facts

We can know a lot about the brain with an eeg-neurofeedback device. And we can really control it. You know, Jenae, whats wrong with your analogy? You said we have access only to the external, when actually we have access to the most internal phenomenon of the brain.

You didn't grasp the concept I see. All of those wave types that you went to great pains to list are only general divisions of wave forms that are typical of various mind states. Very, very general divisions. We can't point to a wave form and say, "Sesame is thinking of a long legged brunette Tgirl with d-cup breasts." No; we can't even tell if you are looking at a blue screen or a red one. No, it's even worse than my analogy. At least there by selecting one microphone we may be able to tell you that the polka band just the other side in playing "Roll out the Barrel".


And yes they are still external. The pickup sensors are on the outside of the brain. Do you think they are measuring the electrical activity at the core of the brain? Just like the microphones on the outside wall of the analogy will not pickup a solo singer in the middle of the building.

The whole point here is that I don't believe it is worthwhile to invest anything in a EEG device, at this stage of its development and application, for anyone outside of scientific inquiry. That is why I suggested you start small. As to finding out what is available, did you check for yourself by using Google? I just took a quick look and there are all kinds of EEG and other bio feedback devices on the net. I myself will not reccomend any of them. Just as I wouldn't recommend you buy a pocket knife if your intention was to clear a forest.

And, if you have "access to the most internal phenomenon of the brain", then I am sure many scientists would love for you to join them and demonstrate your mastery of this. They would even let you use their EEG machines for free.

[sesame]

Originally Posted by Jenae LaTorque

And yes they are still external. The pickup sensors are on the outside of the brain............

Oh Jenae, dear sister, I can see that you couldn't grasp the concept! Ofcourse the EEG is an external device and its monitoring the brainwaves from the surface of the brain. So, yes they ARE external. Yet we have the inborn facility to access the most internal phenomenon of the brain. I will explain that later.

Originally Posted by Jenae LaTorque

I wouldn't recommend you buy a pocket knife if your intention was to clear a forest.

You can make me laugh, even when we are fighting. Witty!

Originally Posted by Jenae LaTorque

And, if you have "access to the most internal phenomenon of the brain", then I am sure many scientists would love for you to join them and demonstrate your mastery of this. They would even let you use their EEG machines for free.

Jenae, we as human beings are capable of thinking, analyzing and meditating on account of having complex minds! This Mind is the facility I'm talking about. This almost ever-active Mind is the most important phenomenon taking place in the brain. Alas, the scientists have it too. So the chance you told me about is gone!

But all intellectual fights aside, its truely amazing to think that we can achieve very high levels of brain mastery! Imagine if you could instantly go to a relaxed state at will, or, gain very deep insights, or, be highly creative whenever you wanted! Then you could be a genius!

There was a scientific investigation carried out in the Tokyo University using EEG under a strictly monitored environment. 48 Zen Buddhist monks aged between 24 to 72 were selected. The same number of volunteers were taken, who had no experience in mind training. They were all supposed to meditate for 30 minutes, sitting crosslegged, with eyes open and focus on a spot on the floor 3 feet ahead.

The untrained group exhibitted the anxious beta waves throughout the whole time. But the Zen monks surprised everyone. They slipped into very relaxed alpha waves in the first 10 minutes, then they went into the Theta state denoting amazing creativity and insight. This inner peace, achievable only in sleeping state was demonstrated by them with eyes wide open!

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by sesame

I have heard *some* people say that NASA is filled with Agenda-Pushing Bureaucrats! If that is true, then you cant blame the Congress for all the episodes that ended with a misfire! NASA itself needs an ablution.

What agenda are you talking about? If it's the agenda of getting to the moon or mars, then yes, Nasa has them.

p.s., why do SO MANY emails in this thread look like RANSOM NOTES?!

[sesame]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

why do SO MANY emails in this thread look like RANSOM NOTES?!

Emails?? In this forum? I dont see any emails here! Do you mean posts?

[sesame]

Ransom notes? ( letting out a big sigh )

To Jenae La Torque:
OK, Jenae, you are not obliged to answer everything I ask. Its just that I Love this thread, you had started and nourished so far. Its one of the most information-rich threads in the whole forum! You seem to be someone with a sizable IQ. Thats why I like bombarding you with challenges. Its not malicious, just an intellectual joust.

P.S. To Tracycoxx:
My joust with Jenae is a matter of mutual consideration. Does it bother you?

[sesame]

The International Astronomical Union declared Pluto as the Nineth Planet of our solar system in 1930. Why has it suddenly been kicked out of the list?

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by sesame

The International Astronomical Union declared Pluto as the Nineth Planet of our solar system in 1930. Why has it suddenly been kicked out of the list?

Since this hasn't been answered, I'll go ahead and answer. Even though Pluto does have it's own moon, Pluto is smaller than the Earth's moon. Also, more and more objects have been discovered like large asteroids as well as large icy bodies beyond Pluto's orbit in the Kuiper belt. Not only that, but Pluto's orbit is inclined 17 degrees relative to the rest of the planets' orbits. So some astronomers have for years been wanting to downgrade Pluto's status as a planet.

Out of respect for Pluto's discoverer, Clyde Tombaugh, it has remained a planet. But after he died in 1997, there were increasing calls to downgrade Pluto. In 2006, the International Astronomical Union came up with some arbitrary categories of planetary bodies:
Planet
* is in orbit around the Sun
* has sufficient mass to be roundish
* has cleared its orbit of debris

A non satellite body fulfilling only the first two of these is a Dwarf Planet (which is what Pluto is now called). If it fulfills only the first criteria, it's a Small Solar System Body (SSSB).

So there are now 8 planets, and 5 dwarf planets in the solar system. They are Ceres (once considered a planet for many years), Pluto, Eris, Makemake, and Humea.

[Jenae LaTorque]

I am interested in your views on Richard C. Hoagland's Hyperdimensional physics.

http://www.enterprisemission.com/hyper1.html

So what do you think? Is he on to something or is he another Velikovsky type?

[johndowe]

Originally Posted by sesame

The International Astronomical Union declared Pluto as the Nineth Planet of our solar system in 1930. Why has it suddenly been kicked out of the list?

Because they like picking on the "little" guys.

JohnDowe

[timhaas]

Dear Jenae, could u please, identify this gorgeous girl? I've already tried a specific ID thread on this forum, but with no luck, infortunately! Thanks a lot in advance!

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by sesame

My joust with Jenae is a matter of mutual consideration. Does it bother you?

Of course NOT. Actually I agree. Jenae has done well with this thread.