Thoughts on UFO's??

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by johndowe

Hi there.

Immaginary numbers do exist and are used extensively when calculating vectors and (electrical) phase differentials corectly, havent done any such math in years but i still remember it, and in math you use the lower case i, in elctronics i is for intencity ie current, we use lower case j instead.

So maby tachions are as "real" ?

JohnDowe.

Yes, imaginary numbers exist, but not as values for physical quantities such as mass.

[johndowe]

Hi there.

Why not it would kinda be like vectored mass (vectored to the other side of the big bang and linked to tachions in that universe?).

Because to create so much mater you would need huge ammounts of energy but if you if the big bang created a positive and a negative universe on opposite plains, the energy needed becomes much smaller and sustainable, obviously can't proove it one way or the other, but it would explain a lot.

JohnDowe.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by johndowe

Hi there.

Why not it would kinda be like vectored mass (vectored to the other side of the big bang and linked to tachions in that universe?).

Because to create so much mater you would need huge ammounts of energy but if you if the big bang created a positive and a negative universe on opposite plains, the energy needed becomes much smaller and sustainable, obviously can't proove it one way or the other, but it would explain a lot.

JohnDowe.

The positive energy that particles are made up of are balanced by their gravity field (i.e. negative potential energy)

[johndowe]

Hi there.

Negative potential energy...

Well, like a mass above ground would have positive potential, negative potential energy would be like an under water bubble of air trying to get to the surface or like a negative electrical charge or anti mater type of negative potential energy?

JohnDowe.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by johndowe

Hi there.

Negative potential energy...

Well, like a mass above ground would have positive potential, negative potential energy would be like an under water bubble of air trying to get to the surface or like a negative electrical charge or anti mater type of negative potential energy?

JohnDowe.

When I said "negative potential energy", I should have said "negative energy (or potential energy)" meaning potential energy is negative energy.

[johndowe]

Hi there.

Alot was said about tachions, but what about the theory of folding space?

It would make travel speed almost irrelevant.

JohnDowe.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by johndowe

Hi there.

Alot was said about tachions, but what about the theory of folding space?

It would make travel speed almost irrelevant.

JohnDowe.

You can't travel faster than light through space. But there's nothing against space itself going faster than light

[KittyKaiti]

I both believe in extraterrestrial intelligent life and have seen UFOs. In August 2000, me and my sister were looking out the bedroom window of the upstairs of my house. We saw a light in the distance. A plane route used to fly in the same direction, so we thought it was a plane. But then as it came closer we saw it was flying too low and too slowly to be a plane. It flew over the trees and houses across the street and then directly over my house. We ran from the front to the back of the house to watch it come over the other side but it was long gone. It travelled about five miles per hour and was very loud, like a rumbling. It was about 20 feet above the roof of the house. It was an octagon shape with a bright white light on each of the eight corners. This occurred about 10:30 at night. The craft was black. After it had gone, we rushed down the stairs to my mother and asked if she just heard the loud rumbling. She said no. It was loud enough for her to hear, I know that. This ended up giving me suspicions that I had also experienced "missing time", which is a common symptom of UFO encounters. Missing time occurs when a period of time passes without you knowing, maybe because you were unconscious, dazed or hypnotised. I think that the craft's technology gave off an energy that causes such, which is why as it passed over, it was gone before we could see it come over the back. I never looked at the clock after the sighting. I don't know how much time had passed between the initial sighting and us running to the back of the house to see it come over. To my knowledge and sister's knowledge it was only seconds. But because of "missing time", it could have been minutes or even hours.

Whether the craft was alien or a government experiment, I don't know. I do know that I saw something that is not currently used on this planet publically. I do though, believe in the existence of intelligent alien life that is visiting this planet and has been for thousands of years.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by KittyKaiti

I both believe in extraterrestrial intelligent life and have seen UFOs. In August 2000, me and my sister were looking out the bedroom window of the upstairs of my house. We saw a light in the distance....

Awesome! Did you get pictures? Or did anyone else in your neighborhood get pictures?

[TracyCoxx]

"A teaser?"

"Yeah."

"Er, what is ..."

"A teaser? Teasers are usually rich kids with nothing to do. They
cruise around looking for planets which haven't made interstellar
contact yet and buzz them."

"Buzz them?" Arthur began to feel that Ford was enjoying making life
difficult for him.

"Yeah", said Ford, "they buzz them. They find some isolated spot with
very few people around, then land right by some poor soul whom no
one's ever going to believe and then strut up and down in front of him
wearing silly antennae on their heads and making beep beep noises.
Rather childish really."

[KittyKaiti]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Awesome! Did you get pictures? Or did anyone else in your neighborhood get pictures?

If I had pictures they would have been posted here.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by KittyKaiti

If I had pictures they would have been posted here.

Ohhh..... Well next time a big, otherworldly brightly lit craft very slowly goes over your house and your neighborhood at a mere 20 ft & 5 mph making all kinds of noise... TAKE A DAMN PICTURE! LOL

I find it incredible that no one else living around you took pictures that you might have as well. I'd say about 1 in 5 houses around you would have a digital camera ready to go at a moments notice. Oh well... another UFO that got away story.

Even with fast moving meteors, someone's bound to have a camera (sometimes two) on it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B17TmSSb5aI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIv7wL9nWMQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqTd0V_fi_s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBLhEoBTAnc

[KittyKaiti]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Ohhh..... Well next time a big, otherworldly brightly lit craft very slowly goes over your house and your neighborhood at a mere 20 ft & 5 mph making all kinds of noise... TAKE A DAMN PICTURE! LOL

I find it incredible that no one else living around you took pictures that you might have as well. I'd say about 1 in 5 houses around you would have a digital camera ready to go at a moments notice. Oh well... another UFO that got away story.

I was 12 years old and didn't own a camera. And like I said, a plane route runs through the neighborhood, so loud jet engines are common. Maybe not as loud as the sound that night but still, most people would have ignored it. It was also night, so no one is outside looking at the sky. Maybe someone DID see something. It was never brought up to the neighbors.

[The Conquistador]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Awesome! Did you get pictures? Or did anyone else in your neighborhood get pictures?

I think that communicating with it via Harold Faltermeyers Axel F song would have been a more appropriate response rather than snapping pics. But that's just me.

[DSL]

Well haven't seen any flying disks or strange objects in the sky yet other then shooting stars ( space junk falling to earth ).
but true they are some life forms out there but not in our reach like about
25,000 to 42,000 light years away in fact our closes galaxy Canis Major Dwarf galaxy may hold some life forms.

WE are not alone!....

[Creedence]

While I believe life may exist in other galaxies I don't believe we experienced a phenomenon like Roswell.

I believe aliens might of been a cover story to keep the Soviet Union off their guard while the US developed new types of aircraft.

I'm not a conspiracy nut either I just think that makes the most sense.

[johndowe]

Hi there.

According to astronomers, there are billions of stars out there, and only this one would have a planet with life on it?

To me it seems almost impossible that we are on the only planet in the universe that can and does have life on it.

There are 3 types of stars, huge ones that are not that bright or warm, there are the small, very bright and very hot ones, both of wich wouldn't be good candidates to support life, but the medium stars, that are medium heat and brightness, like ours, are, even if there are only a few millions of these, some have to have life on them, had life or will have life, because ther is nothing special about this world that would make it much more likely to have life than any other similar planet in a similar solar system, as far as i know anyway.

And also statistically, if something happened once it is likely to happen again and have happened before, of course there is always a first time, and often a last time also.


JohnDowe.

[randolph]

This is part of an interview with Edgar Mitchell, an astronaut who went to the moon. He maintains the Roswell incident was a real UFO and claims a high government official confirmed his view of the event.

"IK: Well first of all thanks very much for making a little time. I wanted to ask you if there was anything about the radio interview you did that was different from what you've said in the past.

EM: No, there's nothing different. Several of (the reports of the interview) that I've seen come around have some flaws in them. Some of the reports pushed it or spun it incorrectly. NASA had nothing to do with anything I've done. I wasn't briefed by NASA. There haven't been any sightings as a result of my flight service there, so if that part of it comes out on anything you've seen it is just totally wrong.

IK: Yes, I did want to clarify that.

EM: My major knowledge comes from what I call the old-timers, people who were at Roswell and subsequent who wanted to clear the things up and tell somebody credible even though they were under severe threats and things -- this was back in the Roswell days. Having gone to the moon and being a local citizen out in the Roswell area some of them thought I would be a safe choice to tell their story to, which they did. Even though the government put real clamps on everybody, it got out anyhow.

Subsequent to that, I did take my story to the Pentagon -- not NASA, but the Pentagon -- and asked for a meeting with the Intelligence Committee of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and got it. And told them my story and what I know and eventually had that confirmed by the admiral that I spoke with, that indeed what I was saying was true.

IK: You mean what had been told to you was true?

EM: Yup, in other words. There was a UFO crash. There was an alien spacecraft. This gentleman tried his damndest to get me in and like so many others in the administration over the last 60 years, since JFK's time, was unable to. He was told 'Admiral, you don't have a need to know, and therefore go get lost,' essentially."

[The Conquistador]

2 words: Bob Lazar

[violet lightning]

:D If nothing else, it flew nicely...
Goes to show how inventive and mischevious some people are!
Imagine what you might think if you saw that thing silently floating over your house some dark night...

Another totally different kind of UFO...