Thoughts on UFO's??

[ARIES666]

Wow, Tracy....you certainly are more than "just another pretty face"....I am impressed! Maybe Art Bell should have you on his show some night!

[violet lightning]

One of my favorite quotes is "The universe is not only stranger than we imagine, its stranger than we CAN imagine."

Excellent discussion!

Who knows what, if anything is out there, (intelligent life) and if so, what they know about physics, galactic travel, and such may be light years ahead of us.

But I also believe its possible that Earth is so far out in the boondocks of the galaxy, that we may be an undiscovered hick planet. Might be better that way too.

Brownsville, eh. I used to fly in there every so often when I was a private pilot. I've seen some nightime lights (like satellites) do some strange things, like stop on a dime and instantly disappear. I have no idea what it was, but I was looking right at it.

I think there is alot of sophisticated hoaxing going on too. People are funny that way, and quite ingenious. Reminds me of the crop circles phenomena.

One of the things I liked about Red Dwarf ,MIB and Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy, is they all brought up size and scale. Like a whole fleet of terrible alien spaceships bent on destroying Earth being accidentally swallowed whole by a yawning dog! Who is to say aliens couldn't be (to us) microscopic, or so vast, we can't even see the whole.
We still don't even know what the "Universe" is exactly, or whats beyond it, or what started it. (I'm a layman, but the Big Bang theory deals with what started the universe, not what came before dosn't it?)

[tslust]

Originally Posted by violet lightning

One of the things I liked about Red Dwarf ,MIB and Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy, is they all brought up size and scale. Like a whole fleet of terrible alien spaceships bent on destroying Earth being accidentally swallowed whole by a yawning dog! Who is to say aliens couldn't be (to us) microscopic, or so vast, we can't even see the whole.
We still don't even know what the "Universe" is exactly, or whats beyond it, or what started it. (I'm a layman, but the Big Bang theory deals with what started the universe, not what came before dosn't it?)

I loved the end sequence in the first MIB. It zooms out until you see the whole known universe, and its nothing but a child's marble.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by ARIES666

Wow, Tracy....you certainly are more than "just another pretty face"....I am impressed! Maybe Art Bell should have you on his show some night!

Thank you But I doubt Art Bell is interested in real science.

[violet lightning]

You know what gripes me about UFO's (and I want to believe, but I am skeptical) is there isn't any good video footage still.
There was a time not too long ago, when no one had managed to get a good shot of a tornado in action. A little hard with the old film cameras, but once movie cameras and especially video cameras and cellphones came along, we see video of them all the time. (in HD no less!) The same with rogue waves. Anectdotal evidence had been around for centuries , but it wasn't until the 1990's I think, that someone aboard a tanker finally got one on film just as it hit. Remote sensors have picked them up too and were able to measure wave height.
But still no good UFO footage, even though its more sought after than Osama Bin Laden.

And not to mention "underwater UFOs" ....

[runround04]

if there are Aliens and they Visit why dont they stay, commicate... and so on? Whats so wrong with us?

[violet lightning]

:D I still like my stellar nursery (or agricultural station) idea!
Earth could be a nursery where all kinds of life grows. UFO's might be remote or piloted but simply don't want to bother us (the inhabitants) while they go about their business of checking on various species progress, etc.
Maybe cattle mutilations (if they really exist) are the results of organ harvesting for tests or some other reason. (like the way we are starting to grow human ears and such on the backs of mice)

What blows me away about life on earth is just how much and how varied it is! And how strange the various species are and how different from each other. (I suppose at the DNA level though, we may all be pretty close) As I said before, we have all kinds of bacteria, viruses, plants, trees, insects, retiles. mammals, birds, fish, bi-valves, luminous jellyfish, and probably lots we haven't discovered yet. Life that lives in permafrost ice and life that thrives on chemicals instead of sunlight at the bottom of the ocean.
Many scientists agree that at least some life on Earth could be the result of meteors and the like bringing alien life to Earth,so the idea that some civiliazation may have done it on purpose does not seem too far fetched.
(I think Carl Sagan said "We are all made of stardust")

The other, more likely explanation (although not nearly as fun to ponder!), is that UFO.s are the result of secret military projects. (like the Stealth fighter and bomber projects) That might explain why no good footage is ever seen. Its confiscated.
The military is working on lots of new ideas, but one I know of is the development of UAV's, (unmanned aerial vehicles) for surveilance, counter insurgency and combat. The "Predator" is one example, but I bet they have all kinds of smaller and larger types for a variety of purposes. (small, hover-capable ones for urban surveillance, quiet, strange-looking.... hey, what if you crossed a small blimp or balloon with a radio control model and fitted it with night vision, fleer, or whatever...)

[tslust]

Originally Posted by violet lightning

The other, more likely explanation (although not nearly as fun to ponder!), is that UFO.s are the result of secret military projects. (like the Stealth fighter and bomber projects) That might explain why no good footage is ever seen. Its confiscated.
The military is working on lots of new ideas, but one I know of is the development of UAV's, (unmanned aerial vehicles) for surveilance, counter insurgency and combat. The "Predator" is one example, but I bet they have all kinds of smaller and larger types for a variety of purposes. (small, hover-capable ones for urban surveillance, quiet, strange-looking.... hey, what if you crossed a small blimp or balloon with a radio control model and fitted it with night vision, fleer, or whatever...)

I remember one time my family and I were at Whiteman Air Force Base. One of the B-2 pilots was giving a tour of the simulator building. He said, "We don't always know what this thing [the B-2 bomber] will do. It still does things that we don't know why or how."
So, you might not be too far off. Either UFOs are test craft of the DOD, or (another possibility) they use reverse engineered parts from an already crashed UFO. I once spoke to an Air Force veteran, he told me that he spent a year at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. He was assigned to guard a hanger. The hanger was filled with boxes and crates and was sealed. His orders were to shoot on sight if anyone crossed a line about 150 yards in tront of his post.

[Rachel]

While fishing on Stellwagon Bank about 150 miles east of Montauk L.I , I saw a silver object in the sky. This object was at an extreme altitude yet left no contrail. It was moving fast as I saw it but then really poured on the throttle and was gone. Now being that far out to the East we were clear of the city smog. I was laying flat on my back on top of my cooler looking up into a clear blue sky. I saw this object for about 5 seconds. This was the first of two things I've seen that cant be explained. More to come...

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by violet lightning

What blows me away about life on earth is just how much and how varied it is! And how strange the various species are and how different from each other. (I suppose at the DNA level though, we may all be pretty close) As I said before, we have all kinds of bacteria, viruses, plants, trees, insects, retiles. mammals, birds, fish, bi-valves, luminous jellyfish, and probably lots we haven't discovered yet. Life that lives in permafrost ice and life that thrives on chemicals instead of sunlight at the bottom of the ocean.
Many scientists agree that at least some life on Earth could be the result of meteors and the like bringing alien life to Earth,so the idea that some civiliazation may have done it on purpose does not seem too far fetched.
(I think Carl Sagan said "We are all made of stardust")

Stardust in the sense that all elements that we consist of other than hydrogen were the result of prior supernovas. It's quite possible that amino acids that spawned life here could have come from comets or asteroids. Some have been found on comets I believe. But even though there's a wide variety of live on earth, evidence shows that it all evolved here. Fossil records show transitions from one species to another, and mitochondrial DNA show a transition as well. There is such a wide variety of life because there is such a wide variety of environments coupled with increasingly advanced life forms that evolve to suit these environments in more and more varied ways.

Originally Posted by Rachel

While fishing on Stellwagon Bank about 150 miles east of Montauk L.I , I saw a silver object in the sky. This object was at an extreme altitude yet left no contrail. It was moving fast as I saw it but then really poured on the throttle and was gone. Now being that far out to the East we were clear of the city smog. I was laying flat on my back on top of my cooler looking up into a clear blue sky. I saw this object for about 5 seconds. This was the first of two things I've seen that cant be explained. More to come...

Was it within the last year or so? If so, it could have been the space station. It is getting large enough to see in the day time if you happen to be looking at exactly at the right spot. It will appear slow towards the horizon and to gain speed as it goes overhead.

[Rachel]

No Tracey, this was 20 years ago. And I was looking at it directly overhead. I see sattelites all the time in my stargazing and it was no sattelite.