Barack Obama

[CreativeMind]

Originally Posted by transjen

Ah yes lets start the great old BS myth the that US is always better off with an good old conservertive in the white house after all look at the wonderful job W did with his 8 yrs a true president zero Jennifer

But keep something in mind, Jen. As I've noted in passing before, if you read through this thread you'll see that many of us here who lean to the Right have ALSO criticized Bush for NOT being a true Conservative. So when you mockingly say "we were better off when it was a Conservative in the White House", many of us will reply "You're right. Too bad we haven't actually had one in the White House in ages!"

Bush's problem was that he tried to placate things too much towards the middle. And more often than not, he didn't even go to the middle, but instead crossed over to the Left by allowing the Democratically controlled Congress to do whatever it wanted the last few years he was in office. Case in point: he allowed them to spend money like no tomorrow and he never stood up like a TRUE conservative and vetoed a single penny of it. He just let all that money go out the door and never once opposed the Democrats the way many of us -- the true conservatives -- wanted him to do.

And THAT'S why so many people became disillusioned by the Republicans in the last election. In the end, they had no real choice. Both the Right AND the Left have seemingly decided that they're both in favor of big government no matter what...they're willing to spend all of our tax dollars no matter what (and then some!)...and THAT'S what has left people feeling angry and left out, which is why you're seeing a slow burning anger beginning to build, not to mention the shifts in the polls.

Plus, that's why so many people have switched their party affiliations to become Independents instead. In fact, both the Republicans and, yes, even the Democrats even though they're in power right now should be worrying BIG TIME that people changing their party affiliations to become registered Independents instead is the fastest growing movement of all. And keep in mind that far more Republicans have switched than Democrats, which means the far greater number of those Independents DO actually lean to the Right -- they're just not happy with the way things are going.

Which is why Obama has so far been smart enough to realize that he's going to have to piss off the Left a bit and do certain things that they object to, because he knows this ever-growing Independent base is what he's going to desperately need to get reelected. The truth is the Independents are going to be the true deciding factor in all national elections for quite some time to come.

[transjen]

Back it up Chatlie Bush in his last two years was always saying if such and such goes thru he'll VETO IT the only things he signed was items he wanted, I know you and Rush are trying to shift all the blame and you all want another idiot in the white house aka Sarah or Jed but try as you may it won't work if the GOP ever wants a true chance the need to leave the far right and tread more to the middle and talk about true plans to balance the budget secure the boarders and Sarah and Jeb are not the voices to do it nor or your Regancrats , you have such a voice running in 08 but none of your party would listen or vote for him his name is Ron Paul. S.I.G Jennifer

[person123]

mr barack could be working for the illuminati. his actions will speak louder than words