Barack Obama

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by randolph

The Democratic obsession with the Kennedys is/was primarily stylistic...

It's exceedingly unusual for party leaders to reference John F. Kennedy as some kind of policy signpost.

When considering domestic, economic, or foreign affairs, when was the last time a leading Democrat said, "Let's just do what JFK would do if he were here"?

In contrast, for many Republicans, the answer to almost every significant policy and/or political question is, "Follow Reagan." More than two decades after the 40th president left office, the obsession in some corners is kind of creepy, and bears no resemblance to the Democratic affinity for JFK.

This post pretty much sums it up. Democrats want a president who makes them feel good. They don't really give a hoot about (or in many cases even comprehend) policy.

And then in contrast, republicans want a president who can get the job done. What is creepy is that the democrats think that is creepy. The presidency is not a popularity contest. The person in office is required to run the largest super power the world has ever known (and btw, there used to be two superpowers before Reagan came along. Think about that.). That is done through policies and leadership. Reagan demonstrated both very well and history shows he is one who got it right.

Originally Posted by randolph

The Democratic obsession with the Kennedys is/was primarily stylistic. It recurs whenever a young, stylish presidential candidate makes people feel inspired.

One could argue it took the Democrats nearly 30 years to kick the Kennedy habit (maybe longer).

Yes definitely much longer. Why do you think they elected Obama... a young stylish presidential candidate? And the vast majority of democrats who elected him could not tell you what is policies were. LOL! Now THAT is creepy.

[transjen]

Gee wasn't everybody saying that W was the man everyone wanted to drink a beer with back in 04 ?

[TracyCoxx]

I give up, what does that have to do with anything being discussed here?

[The Conquistador]

Tracy! It is obvious that you have not seen the glory of our lord and savior Barack Obama!

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/lo...wn-Speech.html

Until you accept President Zero into your heart, you will not see the candy dreams and promises for a better future through socialism. Silly conservative! Your hard-earned paycheck is for social dregs and degenerates! Obama is your savior! Why else would Jesus not be allowed to bask in his glory?

[franalexes]

I find it odd and refreshing that on a porn site, which one would expect to be liberal, we find little or no support for the annointed one.
I do think the best reason to vote conservative, is now in the WhiteHouse.
As I said, " odd".

[transjen]

Ah yes lets start the great old BS myth the that US is always better off with an good old conservertive in the white house after all look at the wonderful job W did with his 8 yrs a true president zero Jennifer

[randolph]

Not long ago Republicans were saying that we would elect a black President when pigs fly.

Guess what? Swine flu!

[The Conquistador]

Originally Posted by transjen

Ah yes lets start the great old BS myth the that US is always better off with an good old conservertive in the white house after all look at the wonderful job W did with his 8 yrs a true president zero Jennifer

I for one don't like Bush at all. He was a horrible Commander in Chief for me and his policies were at best, crappy. With that said, I have no more love for President Zero than I do for Bush. What pisses me off is all this Obama worship that people engage in; it's absolutely disgusting! He is just a man for fucks sake! Nothing more! It seems that alot of people are blinded by this whole "Ooooh! He's a black guy! His blackness will change the world!" bullshit. The elections are not a damn popularity contest! The elections should be about policy, not who is more photogenic or makes you feel good or whatever. Obama has clearly stated his policies and all his policies stink of expanded government powers and loss of private ownership. His bailouts and "universal healthcare" plans are going to drive this economy down even further and yet everyone is so ready to accept this in the name of change. Good grief! Snap out of it. And this crap about if I'm a conservative, I must love Bush and I must be racist and yadda yadda yadda? Where's the proof? Instead of thinking it in terms of black and white, try thinking of it in terms of the lesser of two evils. If Obama supporters actually took time to look at his proposals, you'd see that he is a wolf in sheeps clothing.

Meh! Whatever floats your boat...

[CreativeMind]

Originally Posted by transjen

Ah yes lets start the great old BS myth the that US is always better off with an good old conservertive in the white house after all look at the wonderful job W did with his 8 yrs a true president zero Jennifer

But keep something in mind, Jen. As I've noted in passing before, if you read through this thread you'll see that many of us here who lean to the Right have ALSO criticized Bush for NOT being a true Conservative. So when you mockingly say "we were better off when it was a Conservative in the White House", many of us will reply "You're right. Too bad we haven't actually had one in the White House in ages!"

Bush's problem was that he tried to placate things too much towards the middle. And more often than not, he didn't even go to the middle, but instead crossed over to the Left by allowing the Democratically controlled Congress to do whatever it wanted the last few years he was in office. Case in point: he allowed them to spend money like no tomorrow and he never stood up like a TRUE conservative and vetoed a single penny of it. He just let all that money go out the door and never once opposed the Democrats the way many of us -- the true conservatives -- wanted him to do.

And THAT'S why so many people became disillusioned by the Republicans in the last election. In the end, they had no real choice. Both the Right AND the Left have seemingly decided that they're both in favor of big government no matter what...they're willing to spend all of our tax dollars no matter what (and then some!)...and THAT'S what has left people feeling angry and left out, which is why you're seeing a slow burning anger beginning to build, not to mention the shifts in the polls.

Plus, that's why so many people have switched their party affiliations to become Independents instead. In fact, both the Republicans and, yes, even the Democrats even though they're in power right now should be worrying BIG TIME that people changing their party affiliations to become registered Independents instead is the fastest growing movement of all. And keep in mind that far more Republicans have switched than Democrats, which means the far greater number of those Independents DO actually lean to the Right -- they're just not happy with the way things are going.

Which is why Obama has so far been smart enough to realize that he's going to have to piss off the Left a bit and do certain things that they object to, because he knows this ever-growing Independent base is what he's going to desperately need to get reelected. The truth is the Independents are going to be the true deciding factor in all national elections for quite some time to come.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by transjen

Ah yes lets start the great old BS myth the that US is always better off with an good old conservertive in the white house after all look at the wonderful job W did with his 8 yrs a true president zero Jennifer

Strawman argument. Bush isn't a true conservative. Neither are many of the GOP unfortunately. That's why there's the discontent with the GOP right now.

Conservatism represents moderation, practicality, prudence, and cautious consideration of action based on known facts.

Current day politicians who call themselves "conservative" typically act based on immediate feelings rather than temperance and reasoning from good evidence to action. The Bush administration allowed the market to run free yet undermined freedom of privacy, and religion. The Bush administration has restricted the 4th Amendment right against warrantless searches, opened medical records, fostered the funding of religions in the name of "faith based initiatives," and ordered intrusive background checks on government employees in non-sensitive positions.

He also had no problem in changing the constitution, and has called it just a piece of paper. He was a failure at securing the borders.

Then there's the wall street bailout. That is not something conservatives do, although you could say that the financial situation needed to be rescued because of liberal tampering (i.e. the Community Reinvestment Act).

Originally Posted by person123

mr barack could be working for the illuminati. his actions will speak louder than words

Illuminati? I always think 'Crackpot' when I hear that word.

[randolph]

Originally Posted by franalexes

I find it odd and refreshing that on a porn site, which one would expect to be liberal, we find little or no support for the annointed one.
I do think the best reason to vote conservative, is now in the WhiteHouse.
As I said, " odd".

Yes, it is interesting that conservatives are attracted to transsexual porn. Perhaps that is why many Republicans still like Bush, they love getting screwed.

[CreativeMind]

Originally Posted by randolph

Yes, it is interesting that conservatives are attracted to transsexual porn.
Perhaps that is why many Republicans still like Bush, they love getting screwed.

This isn't about Republicans. The truth is pretty soon EVERYONE is going to discover a newfound love for transsexual porn. Because once America gets the tab for the $13 TRILLION deficit that the Obama budgets are now setting into place across the next 10 years...and once America has to finally pay those bills all on its own because no one will lend us any more money...everyone is REALLY going to know what taking it up the ass truly feels like!

Which means things will never seem brighter for stars like Areeya or Amy or Kimber James or whoever is your favorite.
After all, they'll be the new cult figures to represent our economy!