I give up

[Bionca]

I know dates stink on ice for everyone. It just seems that most stuff is a little more complicated for TGs.

[troymcclure]

Originally Posted by Bionca

I know dates stink on ice for everyone. It just seems that most stuff is a little more complicated for TGs.

Yeah, no disagreement there...

[hankhavelock]

Originally Posted by Bionca

I know dates stink on ice for everyone. It just seems that most stuff is a little more complicated for TGs.

It certainly is, Bionce, like most things unfairly seem to be.

I don't know why, but I actually cannot remember one single stinking date in my life. Surely, some might just turn out as a kinda cosy rendevous, but I think I have never really felt that I neither wasted my time (completely) nor went home without something of substance.

I realize that the painful situations that these weird guys have obviously put you in is not at all unique to you - and yes, ladyboys never TRULY expect to be treated decently. Well, they dream of it and may demand it, but most have a little bit of doubt always. "Is it yet another ass hole?" she may be thinking while yet spending maybe hours in front of the mirror making herself as wonderful and radiant as she possibly can.

When ever I arrange a date (or she does), you can be sure that I will be called and smsed several times during the day where she is merely making sure that I don't intend to chicken out on her. "Ok, I make up now, honey, ya? Don't be late picking me, ya?"

I find it both troublesome and totally endearing. I mean, how can you NOT fall completely and deeply for such kind of devotion? I sure as shit can't...

And when she meets you, with her beautiful smile, her anticipation, her loveliness, her full transsexual power, beauty and wonderfulness... OMG... then I just fall in love right there on the spot... and then I'm indeed the luckiest man in the whole world! And that is completely the same whether she is a "nice" woman with a "nice" civil occupation, or if she is a little darling that I may pay "taxi-money" for her wonderful company. There is no difference.

It's a privilege to be liked, sometimes adored, sometimes even loved by God's finest!

Respect the ladies!

H

[Ogryn1313]

I don't really know what a date is like. Because I haven't really been on a date. I have only taken a girl out two or three times for movie and dinner. When it comes to fliritng, dating, etc, my experience is very limited. Some people go out on lots of dates a year. Not me. I've not even spoken to a woman in three years.

What happens with me is eventually I find a girl I like or she likes me. And we spend sometime talking and hanging out. Maybe one little date like I described. Then we become a couple. At this point there isn't any "dating." Oh we'll go out and do stuff together. But it isn't like dating since we are "together." And then it falls apart and I'm back to square one not knowing how to impress a woman, how a date ought to be, etc.

It's all one big frustrating and disappointing game.

[Bionca]

Originally Posted by Ogryn1313

I don't really know what a date is like. Because I haven't really been on a date. I have only taken a girl out two or three times for movie and dinner. When it comes to fliritng, dating, etc, my experience is very limited. Some people go out on lots of dates a year. Not me. I've not even spoken to a woman in three years.

What happens with me is eventually I find a girl I like or she likes me. And we spend sometime talking and hanging out. Maybe one little date like I described. Then we become a couple. At this point there isn't any "dating." Oh we'll go out and do stuff together. But it isn't like dating since we are "together." And then it falls apart and I'm back to square one not knowing how to impress a woman, how a date ought to be, etc.

It's all one big frustrating and disappointing game.

You know, I think every transwoman I know would give their left tit for a relationship to happen like this. I don't think you guys know how tough it is to go out on something so simple as a date.

[hankhavelock]

Originally Posted by Bionca

You know, I think every transwoman I know would give their left tit for a relationship to happen like this. I don't think you guys know how tough it is to go out on something so simple as a date.

Hmmm... point taken. I just wish it weren't so for you. Apparently the differences between Asia and the West regarding transsexuality comes out in favour of Asia then - in spite of socalled democracy in the good ol' West.

[bobbsie]

Heh, silly westerners.. Hey wait, i'm a westerner! Heh, don't even start me on our pseudo democracy that we're all so proud of. What is that Marry Poppins song? The one with the lyrics: A spoon full of sugar helps the medicine go down. Anyway, we're given just enough freedom (sugar) to makes us believe we're free so the working class doesn't challenge the inequity and insanity of this fanatical version of capitalism we've all bought into. What better way to control people to have them believe that they're free? Insidiously brilliant really.

Oh wait, this is about Bionca not my gripe with neoliberalism.. I can't imagine how awful dating must be for you. Even things I would take for granted like safety. That being said, it is not easy dating Australian women. Their dating shopping lists generally are so big they come in 3 volumes sets, and that is just the prerequisites, not the "would be nice" wish list.. Then all the pressure is on you to be funny, interesting and entertaining. No pressure! The fact I've only ever been on 1 second date says a lot about my experience with dating..

I think you're right though, hankhavelock. I think the west has a lot to learn from the rest of the world. But we're too arrogant to listen

[hankhavelock]

Originally Posted by bobbsie

I think you're right though, hankhavelock. I think the west has a lot to learn from the rest of the world. But we're too arrogant to listen

Nah, my man... some of us are not afraid to listen and to bask in the communities we're suddenly a part of :-) Anyways, you're a good old Aussie (as I understand it), and I'm a bloody Dane... let's hook up here in Jkt and go charm the dames ;-) This is your region, mano!

But I dig all your hang ups on neoconservatism and the inherent fascism that is within that ungodly way of thinking and doing. Unfortunately they may come into power once again if the liberal Americans don't pull their act totally together.

And untill that happens Bionca and friends will continue to have a nasty time out on the town... because this is not about the horrors of dating on a personal level only... this is about backwards societies pointing fingers at the weirdos. And in the morale of George Bush and his holy wife and frontrunners every one here is an insaniac who deserves ridicule and stoning...

They'd make such good muslims... in the bad way that is...

Peace!

H

[Ogryn1313]

Originally Posted by Bionca

You know, I think every transwoman I know would give their left tit for a relationship to happen like this. I don't think you guys know how tough it is to go out on something so simple as a date.

Although I cannot relate to your experiences I can assure you I know how tough it is. It's never easy. For me it is the pressure on me to impress.