GOP'ish candidates

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by transjen

All you hear from the GOP is the rich create jobs and by cutting there taxes the rich in turn will create jobs
So W cut taxes for the rich not once but twice and those cuts are still in effect and unlike all the BS from the GOP the truth is Obama did not add or raise taxes on these so called job creating saints
So taxes on these job creaters has been cut for 12 years now so where are these jobs

The unemployment rate during most of W's presidency has been pretty good - around 5-6%. Since financial collapse (a consequence of lending practices not taxing), Obama has decided to keep the Bush tax cuts not so much to create jobs but because he knows if he raises taxes that will increase unemployment. But you know that already.

[smc]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

The unemployment rate during most of W's presidency has been pretty good - around 5-6%. Since financial collapse (a consequence of lending practices not taxing), Obama has decided to keep the Bush tax cuts not so much to create jobs but because he knows if he raises taxes that will increase unemployment. But you know that already.

And you know that Obama decided to keep the tax cuts because it was the only way he could get the Republicans to agree to other measures that were necessary at the time.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by smc

And you know that Obama decided to keep the tax cuts because it was the only way he could get the Republicans to agree to other measures that were necessary at the time.

Are you sure about that? You might want to look up the numbers of republicans and democrats in the house at that time.

[smc]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Are you sure about that? You might want to look up the numbers of republicans and democrats in the house at that time.

I don't need to, and neither do you. You know that majority does not rule in the United States Senate, but conveniently ignore that fact to make your point.

Further, I did not post anything that could be construed as stating that this was a simple vote on the tax measure. My post specifically states: "get the Republicans to agree to other measures that were necessary at the time."

I know you saw that in my post.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by smc

I don't need to, and neither do you. You know that majority does not rule in the United States Senate, but conveniently ignore that fact to make your point.

Further, I did not post anything that could be construed as stating that this was a simple vote on the tax measure. My post specifically states: "get the Republicans to agree to other measures that were necessary at the time."

I know you saw that in my post.

The majority does not rule in the senate? Huh?

[TracyCoxx]

This election year is going to the dogs...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEBN8wOKjMo

[smc]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

This election year is going to the dogs...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEBN8wOKjMo

In an electoral environment where people have claimed a legitimate place in the political arena while carrying signs of Obama made to look like Adolph Hitler, and even comparing him to Hitler, this kind of thing ... even in jest ... is absolutely disgusting and without merit.

Personally, as someone who counts 64 members of his family lost to the Nazis in death camps, I find this to be reprehensible.

I ask you, Tracy Coxx, do you repudiate all of your ideological cothinkers on so many issues who have made such comparisons?

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

The unemployment rate during most of W's presidency has been pretty good - around 5-6%. Since financial collapse (a consequence of lending practices not taxing), Obama has decided to keep the Bush tax cuts not so much to create jobs but because he knows if he raises taxes that will increase unemployment. But you know that already.

Tracy Coxx: Friend of the Working Man. Fighting for Capital, the Commodification of Man and the American Way!

Can you see it ladies and gentlemen? Can you see those beautiful green pants and that brilliant white shirt emblazoned with dollar signs--a gaudy display that would make the Riddler squeal in joy?

[smc]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Tracy Coxx: Friend of the Working Man. Fighting for Capital, the Commodification of Man and the American Way!

Can you see it ladies and gentlemen? Can you see those beautiful green pants and that brilliant white shirt emblazoned with dollar signs--a gaudy display that would make the Riddler squeal in joy?

As you well know, I rarely agree with Tracy Coxx on anything political or economic. But he makes a claim in the post to which you refer, by inference, that raising taxes will increase unemployment. That is a position that can be debated and shown to be patently false. How about taking on that, Enoch Root? It would be a far greater contribution to the discussion.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by smc

As you well know, I rarely agree with Tracy Coxx on anything political or economic. But he makes a claim in the post to which you refer, by inference, that raising taxes will increase unemployment. That is a position that can be debated and shown to be patently false. How about taking on that, Enoch Root? It would be a far greater contribution to the discussion.

Low taxes are always spoken of in terms of a "keystone." That is, they are the most important part without which the rest of the system--the "arch" in the analogy--would not work. The way in which they work is namely raising employment: the lower the taxes the higher the employment. The corollary is obvious and has already been stated: raising taxes lowers employment. Bush instituted the cuts, they survive to this day, we still have an unemployment problem. All things which Jen has stated in the past.

But, if I understand smc's post correctly, there is a better way to go about this:
Tracy, by what method do lower taxes lead to higher employment?