Self Defense

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Originally Posted by JodieTs

Nope
http://www.telegraph.co.uk Murder-rate-increasing-amid-epidemic-of-knife-and-gun-crime

dailymail.co.uk/news/article The-violent-country-Europe-Britain-worse-South-Africa-U-S

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/2011/04/04/scotland-in-the-grip-of-murder-mayhem-as-homicide-rate-soars

www.murdermap.co.uk

http://www.ukdebate.co.uk/What does everyone here think of gun control? ---look at the table stats on the first post.
Legal carrying of weapons correlates with less crime.
I'd suggest its just the possibility that a person is armed, will dissuade attacks.

What a collection of joke articles.

UK murder rates may be higher than in the 60's however they are still about 1/4 of the murder rate in the US.

Those graphs in your last source as ridiculous. The ones for US cities that supposedly show murder rates dropping or increasing in response to gun laws don't show anything of the sort, they almost all show the change in rate starting or entirely occurring before the law changes. The Washington and Chicago ones that supposedly show a rise after handgun bans show murder rates staying steady for about 10 years after the bans (when they had previously been rising), then they both rise suddenly around 1990, oh, wait, that's when the US went into recession.

The daily mail article (there's the clue it's bullshit, anything in the daily mail, assume the opposite it true) is a complete joke, because as anyone who payed attention to the news knows, they changed the categorisation of violent crime in the UK to include common assault and affray where people are not injured (infact in affray you don't actually have to even have to have touched), whereas other countries only count crimes as violent if someone is actually injured. The articles does infact even admit itself that it is a crock of crap, and that crimes rates are falling since 1995.


And whoever wrote about the Norwegian Terrorist attack, that if only the kids had guns... Are you seriously suggesting that we should be arming children? do you really think that's a good idea to give kids guns. How about you mention that the shooter bought his gun legally, and he got high capacity magazines by mail order from the US.

Criminals always get hold of guns illegally, but they are used almost exclusivly against other criminals, almost all deranged killers who have gone on sprees use legally bought guns, and it's the high capacity magazines that gun nuts insist on keeping legal that allow them to murder such high numbers of people.

As for the 'police state' argument what a load of moronic shit. Lets remember which country STILL has warrantless wire taps, secret searches, tracking your internet, your mail, and even books at your library, has corrupt judges locking people up for money, runs an offshore gulag and has the highest prison population per capita in the world. I don't see any gun waving crowds fixing the situation in the US.