Coakley Is Out--brown Wins

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by local

As opposed to the decades where 50 million people have been shut out of proper medical care? Puhleeze!

So make health insurance more affordable. How bout Tort reform? No?? Why is that off the table? You're not going to have proper medical health care if you hand the operation over to the government. Do you know of anything the government has managed well? This is not something you just go change without taking a damn good look at it. Because it cannot be undone.

Understand this. No matter what form health care takes, there will be at least 50 million people who are unhappy with it. If we have to use the health care the dems want to force on us then the 85% of the people who are currently happy with health care will be pissed.

[local]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

So make health insurance more affordable. How bout Tort reform? No?? Why is that off the table? You're not going to have proper medical health care if you hand the operation over to the government. Do you know of anything the government has managed well? This is not something you just go change without taking a damn good look at it. Because it cannot be undone.

Understand this. No matter what form health care takes, there will be at least 50 million people who are unhappy with it. If we have to use the health care the dems want to force on us then the 85% of the people who are currently happy with health care will be pissed.

This is where the hyperbole makes me role my eyes. Having lived and worked in 3 countries and continents where public health-care is the norm, the McCarthy era tactics coupled with "Reefer Madness" hystria is laughable. NO system is perfect, but the experience I've had in Australia, England and Canada has been the same -- walk in, see a doctor, get treated and leave. When I needed specialists I saw them. It's that simple.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by local

This is where the hyperbole makes me role my eyes. Having lived and worked in 3 countries and continents where public health-care is the norm, the McCarthy era tactics coupled with "Reefer Madness" hystria is laughable. NO system is perfect, but the experience I've had in Australia, England and Canada has been the same -- walk in, see a doctor, get treated and leave. When I needed specialists I saw them. It's that simple.

All it takes is money. And guess what? Right now we're in the hole $12 trillion. As I said, the first place to start is by cutting costs, like tort reform.

When republicans see a deficit, they cut costs. When democrats see a deficit they raise taxes and add costs.

[jimnaseum]

Yeah! And who will lead us in these tough times? How about....Ken and Barbie!!!!!!

[Talvenada]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

All it takes is money. And guess what? Right now we're in the hole $12 trillion. As I said, the first place to start is by cutting costs, like tort reform.

When republicans see a deficit, they cut costs. When democrats see a deficit they raise taxes and add costs.

TRACY:

Good point!! Bush 41 left a deficit for Clinton, Clinton left a surplus for Bush 43, Bush 43 left a whopping deficit for Obama.

Conse 'Pubs put us in a hole with tax cuts, and The Dems have to pay the bill. Then, Conse 'Pubs say we cut taxes, and Dems raise taxes. Will that Conse 'Pub vote be cash or charge? AHHHHHHHHH!!!!


TAL, a Mod Dem--left of center

[randolph]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

All it takes is money. And guess what? Right now we're in the hole $12 trillion. As I said, the first place to start is by cutting costs, like tort reform.

When republicans see a deficit, they cut costs. When democrats see a deficit they raise taxes and add costs.

Yeah right, Bush cut taxes and spent like crazy. Going from a surplus to a big deficit.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by randolph

Yeah right, Bush cut taxes and spent like crazy. Going from a surplus to a big deficit.

News flash: Bush isn't a textbook conservative. And it was while congress was controlled by Dems under Bush that they spent the most.

Complete this sentence: If Bush spent like crazy, Obama spent like _____

[randolph]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

News flash: Bush isn't a textbook conservative. And it was while congress was controlled by Dems under Bush that they spent the most.

Complete this sentence: If Bush spent like crazy, Obama spent like _____

Oh, I see. The deficit under Bush was not his fault but the deficit under Obama is his fault.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by randolph

Oh, I see. The deficit under Bush was not his fault but the deficit under Obama is his fault.

This has been posted a few times, but here it is yet again:
Bush with mixed congress: $11B deficit
Bush with republican congress: $339B deficit
Bush with democrat congress: $704B deficit

Obama with democrat congress: $2.7 Trillion deficit

I'm blaming Bush and the republican congress for the $339B deficit. The $704B deficit with the democratic congress, not so much. And I'm definitely blaming BO and the democratic congress for the $2.7 trillion deficit.

Tell me where I am wrong?