Self Defense

[Tread]

Originally Posted by SweetCharmer

ok now this is just my observation but i think this Thread has slightly lost the plot.

this thread obviously started out in helping people get information on getting DIFFERENT ways on self defense but all i can is that its boiled down into an argument between those inside and outside of America. look Tread. Stop trying to push your views onto people when guns have obviously worked in america for the last 200 years or so.

Indeed it lost slightly the plot. I've problems to not voice my opinion, if getting asked. But I'm not trying to push my views on other. I want to understand, why so many get a big weapon extra for home defence. I grasped KittyKaiti's and AngryPostman's personal opinion, but in general I don't get it and would like to hear more.
Even it was enjoyable, for the threads sake I'll stop asking why they expect some kind of Jason Voorhees in their home. (Damn, did it again)


Martial Arts:
In my opinion American Kenpō Karate, German Ju-Jutsu and a bit easier (Civilian) Krav Maga are the best choices for self defence. But the most martial arts have good working defence techniques.
If you don't want to learn the full program a usual self defence course teaches essential moves, behaviour, responsibility and confidence in a short time.

Personally I would prefer Spetsnaz Combat-Sambo or Jeet Kune Do, but it's nearly impossible to get a proper training in these.

[The Conquistador]

Originally Posted by Tread

Martial Arts:
In my opinion American Kenpō Karate, German Ju-Jutsu and a bit easier (Civilian) Krav Maga are the best choices for self defence. But the most martial arts have good working defence techniques.
If you don't want to learn the full program a usual self defence course teaches essential moves, behaviour, responsibility and confidence in a short time.

Personally I would prefer Spetsnaz Combat-Sambo or Jeet Kune Do, but it's nearly impossible to get a proper training in these.

If I had the time to thoroughly learn martial arts, I would want to learn any of these 4: Muay Thai, Wrestling(Greco-Roman or Collegiate), Krav Maga or Judo.

Combat Sambo is pretty badass but I don't know anyone down here that teaches it.

[randolph]

Originally Posted by TheAngryPostman

If I had the time to thoroughly learn martial arts, I would want to learn any of these 4: Muay Thai, Wrestling(Greco-Roman or Collegiate), Krav Maga or Judo.

Combat Sambo is pretty badass but I don't know anyone down here that teaches it.

I like the Harrison Ford system in Raiders.
When a badass comes at you, blow him away.

[Rachel]

Hey Tread what do you guys do over there if someone breaks into your home with the intent to rob and maybe hurt you? Fight like a Frenchman? I surrender!

[SweetCharmer]

Originally Posted by Rachel

Hey Tread what do you guys do over there if someone breaks into your home with the intent to rob and maybe hurt you? Fight like a Frenchman? I surrender!

now i don't know if thats an ill intent jab or not but if it were me being robbed most likely the robber would have a knife or bat or something as guns aren't legal and hard to come by. if he were coming at me i'd be able to get the knife of of him and use it against him as i've been trained to. this might not seem the most likely but tai chi helps. for a couple of years i use to learn it and learn that even the slightest movement can have big results. instead of stopping the attacker. guide him away from you by moving his body with his own momentum. this would result him in stabbing the wall with the knife and i'd beat the crap out of his because i've found out one good thing about robbers and all round thugs.

anything goes :D

[DSL]

I can get 3 shot groups with my 357 magnum at 30 feet away
nearly dead center, with my 03-A3 springfield a 3 shot group
at 500 yards!, without a scope mount the peephole is allways kept clear
you aim thru and she will fire thru.

[Tread]

Originally Posted by Rachel

Hey Tread what do you guys do over there if someone breaks into your home with the intent to rob and maybe hurt you? Fight like a Frenchman? I surrender!

Usually only call the police, cause they do it when nobody is at home, or they run away if they get spotted.
If the risk is too high, surrender is not the worst act (if you have a gun or not). Some would probably lock their self in a room and call the police. Other would chase them away, or fight them (with or without weapons). There are as much behaviours as in the US, only that guns are less common.
I don't know what I would do, the case isn't clear enough, and I never was in such a situation. I would probably call the police try to get something to identify the person (photo, car licence number, robber belongings, protect objects with fingerprints) before the person run away. If the person wants to hurt me, I would defend me in a reasonable way (this doesn't sound like a you or I death situation). If I can I would arrest the person until police is there (depending how fast, strong and what happens).


It is/was really difficult for me to not post more to your statements, but this would start a discussion that was/is not my intension.

[The Conquistador]

Originally Posted by DSL

I can get 3 shot groups with my 357 magnum at 30 feet away
nearly dead center, with my 03-A3 springfield a 3 shot group
at 500 yards!, without a scope mount the peephole is allways kept clear
you aim thru and she will fire thru.

Oooooh! Oooooh! Oooooh! Is it a Springfield Armory or Rock Island Armory 1903? Gibbs Rifle Company is making 1903A4s that look pretty damn close to the real thing, the only noticeable differences that I could see were the markings on the rifle.

[JodieTs]

Originally Posted by Rachel

Hey Tread what do you guys do over there if someone breaks into your home with the intent to rob and maybe hurt you?

We get assaulted robbed murdered.
You knew that though.

[Suckslut]

I thought the UK has a very low murder rate?

Something like a couple people a year or something?

[JodieTs]

Originally Posted by Suckslut

I thought the UK has a very low murder rate?

Something like a couple people a year or something?

Nope
http://www.telegraph.co.uk Murder-rate-increasing-amid-epidemic-of-knife-and-gun-crime

dailymail.co.uk/news/article The-violent-country-Europe-Britain-worse-South-Africa-U-S

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/2011/04/04/scotland-in-the-grip-of-murder-mayhem-as-homicide-rate-soars

www.murdermap.co.uk

http://www.ukdebate.co.uk/What does everyone here think of gun control? ---look at the table stats on the first post.
Legal carrying of weapons correlates with less crime.
I'd suggest its just the possibility that a person is armed, will dissuade attacks.