Does liking shemales make you gay?

[guest]

or better yet, are WE gay?

ok so for about a year now i've been extremely turned on by shemales (obviously or i wouldn't be here right now)... but i'm also very attracted to women. i really like the thought of a hard cock and large balls on a very feminine type of girl, it really turns me on. but i am confused because i see these shemales as girls, even though they have dicks. i am also very opposed to the idea of a dick in my ass, i really think it's sick and would never do it, but i would love to stick mine in a shemale. the thought of calling myself "bisexual" or gay annoys me because i don't like men at all. i don't have fantasies about wearing wemon's clothing or anything like that.. the only doubt about myself i have is my love for a women with a long hard cock. i can't talk about this to anyone personally becuase they will think i'm gay, and everyone close to me is opposed to gay things.. especially my friends, because i'm still in high school, and let's just say i'm probably younger than everyone here.

so i was wondering if anyone has similar feelings, or can give me some advice?

[translover]

:D hi my friend, for me the same feelings are same with you. i like a hard cock on the feminine body and i love to be with ladyboys. but non of my friends like ladyboys, they think that ladyboys are gay and who likes ladyboys are gay too. but i don't think so we are gay i like girls but i like cocks on a girls. both make me crazy :drool: and i am not gay i don't like boys or men. but i don't talk about this with my friends. ;)

[guest]

:D hi my friend, for me the same feelings are same with you. i like a hard cock on the feminine body and i love to be with ladyboys. but non of my friends like ladyboys, they think that ladyboys are gay and who likes ladyboys are gay too. but i don't think so we are gay i like girls but i like cocks on a girls. both make me crazy :drool: and i am not gay i don't like boys or men. but i don't talk about this with my friends. ;)

thanks for sharing, i'm glad you feel the same way.

i just joined this site a few hours ago and i don't know why but i feel really safe and at home here.. i guess i'm glad theres other people like me.

[gizmo]

mate, dont worry too much about the gay/straight issue!
What ever you do, is fine if it make's you happy,
and does'nt harm anyone. I know you are confused now
but as you get older, you will decide for yourself, and what
your friend's think, wont be so important. Enjoy!

[tlover]

Hi mate, welcome to the site.
My advice would be don't waste your life worrying about what other people think, I've done that too many times in the past and missed out on some good experiences, life's too short mate.
Go with your feelings enjoy the moment, you will probably go through different fazes in your life, this infatuation with shemales might be one, or it might last.
Much better to have regrets about what youve done than regret what you haven't done.
Phew! a lot of sayings in their, but in my experience their all right.:)

[wildmyke]

Hell NO....when I go on tour, I definitely get my more that fair share of pussy, BUT, if a TGirl or girls are there, and liked the show and wanna chill...they are always welcome on our bus!! They are by far some of the coolest chicks to hang out with. I would rather have a Tgirl on the bus to ride with us than a regualr clingy, wishy washy groupie type whore; ya know? The shemales are always beyond cool, give great head and never want anything in return, other than maybe a cold brew or shot!!! Have fun dude. NOW, I usually don't get too involved with them, for me it is an occasional taboo type thing, the funny thing is, there are a lot more dudes into them than you think!! Its all good.

[guest]

Hell NO....when I go on tour, I definitely get my more that fair share of pussy, BUT, if a TGirl or girls are there, and liked the show and wanna chill...they are always welcome on our bus!! They are by far some of the coolest chicks to hang out with. I would rather have a Tgirl on the bus to ride with us than a regualr clingy, wishy washy groupie type whore; ya know? The shemales are always beyond cool, give great head and never want anything in return, other than maybe a cold brew or shot!!! Have fun dude. NOW, I usually don't get too involved with them, for me it is an occasional taboo type thing, the funny thing is, there are a lot more dudes into them than you think!! Its all good.
thanks for sharing, appreciate it. hey you mentioned being on tour or something? what did you mean if you don't mind?

[wildmyke]

i am a musician......get to see a lot of the world, all the time!!;)

[guest]

i am a musician......get to see a lot of the world, all the time!!;)
if you don't mind again, what kind of music do you make? how popular are you?

[wildmyke]

rock and roll bud......played with some major acts. Not reallly at liberty to say who, but,if you have a radio, you have heard my work!!

[Mirabeau915]

I agree with tlover, I'm not one who cares much about others. I don't advertise or anything, either.

[y2jericho_82]

Hell no. If you are gay, you would be seeing muscular man flexing.

[jimudon]

Don't know if that makes me gay or not. Don't care. Just like being with a t-girl so much better than the women. Wish I had been more open earlier on.

[hankhavelock]

This question arises quite often among shemale-lovers. And there's NOT a single answer covering us all. It depends:

1. Some of us (probably most) are straight with no attraction to men

2. Some are bisexual (me for example - I've turned more "gay" recently and also like socalled femboys - very feminine gays - simultaneously my interest in genetic girls has diminished)

3. Very few are gay (gays in general like men and not shemales - I don't think I've ever met a gay who liked shemales - but surely there are some)

So don't worry, being a shemale-lover does NOT make you gay per se (some homofobics might LABEL you gay, but who cares? ;-)

Just enjoy it!

Peace!

Hank

[steve]

I know exactly what your trying to say, you want someone who you see as female but is male ? well it does get confusing to say the least.

[asian_ladyboy_lover]

pal, you're normal, dude. I am the same way as you. I'm probably a little bit older than you, I'm nearly 25 years old, and just discovered I love shemales in the last year. I've always loved women, I admire their beauty, but I just don't get turned on by pussy. I love cock and cumshots, but I hate the "manliness of men" - I can't stand their face and bodies. I consider myself straight as a board. Nothing turns me on more than a beautiful woman with a raging hardon accompanied by a pair of huge balls. There's just something about it, the way a cock swings, the arch of a cumshot as it goes through the air, I don't know. But I do know, you're not gay. And neither am I, we are just sexually advanced, we know what we want. There's no shame in it man...it's all good.

[tm1]

dude honestly every guy has a bit of gay and may not be attracted to men they might just like the idea of some cock but still want to be straight and see a chick honestly i love women cant get enough of them but sometimes i wish some had cocks so i could suck some cum fromt hem

[shecock]

hi friend it's also same with me sometimes even i fell that i m bisexual or gay. none of my friends knows that i m after shemales i be with them and comment on every cute gals. even we go to gals to some brothels once in a while . i m sure i m not a gay. but sometimes it comes in to my mind .but atlast i lust for shemales only shemales evenly with the women with out dicks. i love em both.

[sdtgfan]

Not that it matters too much, but I think of myself as 80% straight and 20% bi. I enjoy cocks whether they are on men or women. However, I don't care if the guy I'm giving head to or a handjob to comes. With the girls, I want them to come all of the place. Why? The feminity aspect I suppose. It still a cock, but I appreciate the person more than just some dude.

[padeligne]

I don't care if I am gay or not. Let other's judge about that if the want too. I know that I love ladyboys and that ladyboys make me happy. That's the important thing.

[Dells]

I've went through that in my head a few times for sure. Was strange for me to compute at first, but inside i knew what a felt and what i wanted and stopped caring. Finding this site and reading the post and stories from others truly helped. asian_ladyboy_lover's post pretty much describes how i feel too. Couldn't have said it better myself.

[cancelbutton]

Gay/lesiban/bisexual i feel are pretty black and white defintions, Gays like only guys, lesbians like only girls, and Bisexuals like everyone :) . But unfortuantaly that doesn't work well with a ladyboy, because its hard to define them, and frankly they shouldn't. Sexuality is a free and open thing, where anyone can find anything a turn on, just look on the interent for that :). I Love women (JLH is the only reason i watch Ghostwhisper) and i love ladyboys. And that should be enough. :)

This is a really great thread, and i love the other replies, keep them coming.

[ellenbeachbabe]

I agree. Sexuality isn't black and white, there arent any yes or no answers here. I firmly believe everyone has his own scale of sexual preferences. It's like requiring that you choose to eat only meat or be a vegetarian. Some people are extremes at either end, but most (and I think like nearly all) experience some variations toward one end of the spectrum or the other. I was brought up in a strictly straight family, but as a child of the '70s was exposed to other sexual preferences. I used to share a bed during sleep overs with my best friend in 9th grade and after her parents went to bed, we made out and got into some really great sex without even knowing what we were doing. The thing is, don't worry about it. It's just sex. Do what feels good and say "fuck off" to those who would judge you.

[twistedone]

What does it matter? Seriously, its all about enjoying what your doing, and the other person enjoying it too.

I refuse to allow social pressures dictate my pursuit of happiness.

[toosexy]

I think being pure straight or pure gay is rare comparing to middle ones. Like Kinsey once described on scale 1..6 where 1 is heterosexual and 6 is homosexual, most of us are in 2..5 range. See the film Kinsey, you'll like it.

[pickseed]

hmm.. i dont think i'm gay at all.

the way i see it kinda is..the concept and actuality of a shemale is probably a pretty recent thing, however the concept and words gay/lesbian have been around for a loooong time. i think once it becomes more widespread/accepted (it will..) i feel a new 'word' may emerge that defines us correctly

feel free to correct me if im wrong, factually, this is just the way i see it atm

[floydthebarber]

At least I don't consider myself gay, anyway. There certainly is something to the almost independent sexuality TGirls that doesn't seem to bother when I see them and feel attracted to them. Doesn't seem to challenge my perceptions of my sexuality. Haven't shared this with anyone though. Does this make me a hypocrite? I don't know. But I just started checking out this are of sexuality. I'll see where it goes. But for now, I'm enjoying it. :yes:

[dirkhard]

I dont feel totaly gay but i must admit i go weak at the knee's when i see a nice cock

[curioustslover69]

youd be gay if you liked guys and girls. ts arent men.

[BlueRaven88]

or better yet, are WE gay?

ok so for about a year now i've been extremely turned on by shemales (obviously or i wouldn't be here right now)... but i'm also very attracted to women. i really like the thought of a hard cock and large balls on a very feminine type of girl, it really turns me on. but i am confused because i see these shemales as girls, even though they have dicks. i am also very opposed to the idea of a dick in my ass, i really think it's sick and would never do it, but i would love to stick mine in a shemale. the thought of calling myself "bisexual" or gay annoys me because i don't like men at all. i don't have fantasies about wearing wemon's clothing or anything like that.. the only doubt about myself i have is my love for a women with a long hard cock. i can't talk about this to anyone personally becuase they will think i'm gay, and everyone close to me is opposed to gay things.. especially my friends, because i'm still in high school, and let's just say i'm probably younger than everyone here.

so i was wondering if anyone has similar feelings, or can give me some advice?

easy answer. no we aren't gay cos we're attracted to the femininity of ladyboys/shemales/dickgirls/whatever. basically, they're just a girl with a living strap-on dildo that can produce cum.

in other words, unless you feel the same about guys then no you're not a homosexual. technically, on a site called www.reneereyes.com we are 'paratrexual' cos we are nature's parallel to transexuals

[tgirl virgin]

Actually, it was last year, that someone posted a picture of a beautiful girl in a forum. Then I realized it came from a shemale site, so my brain told me to be turned off, although my "other brain" got turned on. I did not want to admit
the picture turned me on. That would make me a queer. (pardon the expression)

But as time went by, I got tired, and could not get turned on much anymore, I thought my sex drive was gone. I look at porn and jerked off all the time (I was never lucky getting laid, except a few times) but then I got tired of porn. I had no interest in sex. And I felt bad, because it would suck if my equipment died.

Then I was looking at porn again, and was directed at a shemale site. I was going to close the window, but one "girl" looked really cute, and I thought "if only she didn't have a dick" But, she had such a sweet face, and I guess I quit letting the fact she had a dick bother me. In fact, I wanted to suck it, to make her happy. Who cares if it's gay?? I still like pussy, don't get me wrong, but if the person turns me on, (feminine and pretty and sweet looking) I'll do them if given the chance.

What amazes me is that these shemales look so much like women, you would swear they were, until you saw their penises.

Now, if i had a hot shemale, ladyboy, etc, I'd suck them dry all of the time, just to hear them moan and groan in ecstasy, because to make them cum would get me off. I'd even fuck their ass, and maybe, let them do me. As long as they did not tear up my ass (oh, how embarrassing to go to the hospital like that)
Also, being in a small town, people would give me hell about it.
I am new here, but belong to 2 other shemale forums.

[inadaze]

I finally figured myself out . Im just a perv :p lol

[eliogabalo]

easy answer. no we aren't gay cos we're attracted to the femininity of ladyboys/shemales/dickgirls/whatever. basically, they're just a girl with a living strap-on dildo that can produce cum.

in other words, unless you feel the same about guys then no you're not a homosexual. technically, on a site called www.reneereyes.com we are 'paratrexual' cos we are nature's parallel to transexuals


Sorry, friend, but i disagree totally with you. :( Your definition of shemales as "girls with a living strap-on dildo than can produce cum" is ridiculous, offensive and fully wrong. I've known many ladyboys and ensure you that, in spite of the appearance, a lot of shemales are androgynous. Many shemale-lovers project on ladyboys their desires, dreams and fantasies. They see only the feminine side of shemales, and don't look at the masculine side, what is less showy but more deep. After some months of relationship with a ladyboy, the masculine side becomes more and more evident, and you understand that she's at the meantime female and male.
I disagree also about the "gay-question". Love for shemales can have different causes, motivations and origins and shemale-lovers can be straight, gay and bisex ( the most are bisex). Recently i've devoted a poll to this subject. As you can see a close majority of the members (11) is looking for a complete femininity, but many (10) want a preminent femininity mixed with a bit of masculinity, and a few (4) are looking for an androgynous. I adore the androgynous-type, am totally passive and repute myself virtually gay.

[inadaze]

well everyones different is my philosophy and generalisations are meaningless unless they spare one a headache from thinking too much ;)
i like girls and am exploring this side of myself because i guess my personality s anarchic in some ways. the day i actually meet a ts is the day i can maybe answer some of the questions posed on this forum :)

[jimudon]

I know I like shemales because of their cocks. Couple that with their female beauty! I know I only want to be with someone who has a real cock. I have finally realized I am on the all male team but in the shemale league. If that makes gay so be it. I know I have no use for a "real girl"

[mobiryder]

easy answer. no we aren't gay cos we're attracted to the femininity of ladyboys/shemales/dickgirls/whatever. basically, they're just a girl with a living strap-on dildo that can produce cum.

in other words, unless you feel the same about guys then no you're not a homosexual. technically, on a site called www.reneereyes.com we are 'paratrexual' cos we are nature's parallel to transexuals

very well said...

[briana]

I agree that ladyboy lust is a way to get in touch with ones inner female side. Ive tried to turn it off, but i cant help but to find my fingers typing ladboy on searches. And it just really rocks me to the core. The more feminine the better. Exspecialy all shaved and little cocks,mmm. Heaven would be to find a women that understands this and wants to share in this turn on.

[tezt]

think about it from the transexual's perspective. she considers herself a woman. we call her a she. society calls her a she. if you're a man..is that really gay? it's more a very kinky woman. if your girlfriend likes to use a strapon with you..are you gay?

[godownunder]

thanks for sharing, i'm glad you feel the same way.

i just joined this site a few hours ago and i don't know why but i feel really safe and at home here.. i guess i'm glad theres other people like me.

It seems there are a lot of us about............I still love women, and shemales really excite me.......but being with a man..................nah mate, not for me.......

[Jayshawn!]

or better yet, are WE gay?

ok so for about a year now i've been extremely turned on by shemales (obviously or i wouldn't be here right now)... but i'm also very attracted to women. i really like the thought of a hard cock and large balls on a very feminine type of girl, it really turns me on. but i am confused because i see these shemales as girls, even though they have dicks. i am also very opposed to the idea of a dick in my ass, i really think it's sick and would never do it, but i would love to stick mine in a shemale. the thought of calling myself "bisexual" or gay annoys me because i don't like men at all. i don't have fantasies about wearing wemon's clothing or anything like that.. the only doubt about myself i have is my love for a women with a long hard cock. i can't talk about this to anyone personally becuase they will think i'm gay, and everyone close to me is opposed to gay things.. especially my friends, because i'm still in high school, and let's just say i'm probably younger than everyone here.

so i was wondering if anyone has similar feelings, or can give me some advice?

Ive felt the exact same way 4 tha longest i love pussy so much but at tha sight of a shemale such as Areeya, Mint, or Jade im hard as a rock but im 7000% sure i am not gay because a dick in my ass is simply repulsive atleast a guys dick and i dnt get turned on or find guys attractive at all

[eliogabalo]

All these answers prove that love for ladyboys can have 1000 different causes and origins. Nevertheless, i think that if you love the cock more than the pussy you are virtually gay. Even if the cock is inserted in a feminine body.
I'm crazy about ladyboys and like very masculine, dominant girls using a strap-on dildo. I'm a cock-addicted. I adore the cock and don't like the pussy. So i repute myself gay. :)

[jimudon]

I have always loved shemales and femboys, even when with real girls. Now after 3 or so years I have been pussy free. I have totaly seen the light. I only want to be with cock and have no interest in pussy. I just want to suck it and get fucked by a beauiful shemale or femboy. I know this makes me gay, but it is what I enjoy.

PS this site is awesome! The shemale is the new third sex. More men need to see the light of the shemale/femboy. Pussy is very overrated! When compared to a shemale! Play with a joystick, it is more fun!

[TheSkronkDonkey]

Cool question -- I like the detail you went into, dude. The very fact you're asking and went into that detail shows you're a sensitive soul in tune with life at a deeper level than most. But I believe that it's also a pointless question in light of sexual attraction. The problem is that people are keen to label things. Labels make it easier to "explain" something, but things just aren't easy to explain. We all think in stereotypes because it's the quicker and safer thing to do; stereotypes even have elements of truth to them (more often than not). But stereotypes never tell the full story and neither do labels. "Gay" sounds like a very inadequate label for anyone, especially a shemale lover. However, in terms of neurological "wiring" or whatever, we must invariably have some level of "gayness" in us, if we desire various degrees of feminised males with penises, which we clearly all do.

I'm the sort that analyses and obsesses a lot, but the more I look back, the more pointless it all seems. Of course, I'm not saying that things shouldn't be examined and explored; we'd never be able to advance, artistically, socially, economically, morally, technologically, scientifically or spiritually without people pushing the existing boundaries, looking deeper and really making a go of life. pal, my friend ... I'm 24. From the sounds of it, you must be younger. Quite how much younger I don't know. But don't beat yourself up over anything. In fact, I wish I was back in my late teens. I discovered my love of shemales a couple of years ago. It's been growing since that time. Today, I get so aroused just thinking about them; it's now gotten to the point where it's become easier to become aroused thinking about shemales than females. I don't know if that's good or bad; I think it simply "is". It's reality, whether I care to try and make moral sense of it or not. Life favours diversity, so it's probably a "good" thing, if you want a hard and fast moral answer -- but there probably isn't one.

Enjoy yourself, dude! And enjoy being here. I'm glad I found this place. And remember: the Internet is growing all the time. Five years ago, we didn't have YouTube. Ten years ago, we didn't have Google. Fifteen years ago, virtually none of us had internet access. It blows my mind to think of that. The world is changing so much. Be excited that you're part of a new dawn in the era of humanity. And try not to obsess too much. It's only made things worse for me. Too much guilt and self-analysis will remove you from society and put you into depression -- and trust me, you can be guilty over more than just sexuality. But think of all the people that don't care; the people who wear their likes and dislikes and beliefs and foibles loudly and proudly. History demonstrates one thing above all else: if we can conquer fear, we can achieve almost anything. And the most important thing never to fear is being yourself.

[inadaze]

All these answers prove that love for ladyboys can have 1000 different causes and origins. Nevertheless, i think that if you love the cock more than the pussy you are virtually gay. Even if the cock is inserted in a feminine body.
I'm crazy about ladyboys and like very masculine, dominant girls using a strap-on dildo. I'm a cock-addicted. I adore the cock and don't like the pussy. So i repute myself gay. :)

hmm its weird but I would swear its like theres a feminising force field surrounding a transgirl which makes the cock a feminine thing

[rammani]

i am not a gay i am a ladyboy slave

[gunslinger1985]

I don't think we are gay. The fact that shemales are people who feel like and consider themselves women makes me think that we are attracted to femininity and just like the possibilities that a shemale offers that biological women don't.

[knight]

I don't think we are gay. The fact that shemales are people who feel like and consider themselves women makes me think that we are attracted to femininity and just like the possibilities that a shemale offers that biological women don't.

My thoughts exactly

[SweetCharmer]

in short it's all down to different perspectives i mean some people that it's still being gay but to me its not coz its still a female body others will disagree but i can't really change their opinions so i'll just stick to mine

[TSLuva]

I don't think were gay, I just can't see them as being anything but women & I'm sure I'm not just trying to convince myself of that. I have just joined this forum & I am finding this so liberating talking about something I have kept secret for several years now, not because I am ashamed of it but because I just know none of my friends would understand it.

[CHRIME]

that would interest me. I love Ladyboys more than Girls but I cannot have Sex with a man. This is impossible.

[SweetCharmer]

no its perfectly arlright that you like shemales but don't like men in the end all you really like is a WOMAN with a cock is just that nothing to do with men coz you still this of them as women:respect:

[kimypbr]

Yes.. for me too.

For me, ladyboys are female

[malan]

it is good to see I am not alone in these thoughts. I to see them as females.

[SweetCharmer]

i think that nearly everyone here has that same thought nearly everyone thinks of ladyboys as women

[andrewtricolor]

No, i am straight and i like to have sex with shemales, but not with men

[CHRIME]

For me Ladyboys are also female. I am very satisfied that I am not alone with this meaning.

[djse7en2000]

same as me guys..

for me LB's are also female

[twfs21]

i was talking to a gay friend of mine and he said if u like shemales or ladboys ur not gay. there is no gay man who likes shemales. this was his opinion.

[cocklover]

same as me guys..

for me LB's are also female


Ditto..........:yes:

[otakudude2000]

I dont think so

[translover]

i am not gay but i am bisexual, i love to have sex with both genders but i really like shemales
and they are excited me so much. they have cock and they are like a girl.

i want a cock :innocent: but i want a girl :inlove: so answer is shemales :respect:

[giancarlo]

LBs are female. That's fro sure.:yes:

[gunslinger1985]

Guys whho like shemales aren't gay, they are attracted to females with cocks. That's not gay.

[drowsuck]

Totally i would never ever fuck a gay guy, but i would gladdly suck on a shemale cock, given the shemale is a fem type.

i figured there r 2 types of shemale fans

the gay ones who enjoys the man looking huge cock type

and the not gay ones who enjoys the fem looking cute cocks.

correct me if i m wrong, but thats how i see it.

[warblade]

I love ladyboys and I also love girls but I have never see ladyboys as men. I know I would not even think about having sex with another man. I like girls and ladyboys.

[vibesfan]

Shemales and gg's only. I have viewed gay porno and it didn't do anything for me. I do think however that there is a gay element in being attracted to penises. If we were all totally striaight we would not be attracted to anyone with a penis. A decidedly male face is not a turn on for me . A beautiful shemale with a large cock drives me crazy and all I can think of is to give her head. I have no such desire with a man.

[Lucy6]

I hate this whole gay or straight thing, to me its just sex, doesn't matter if its with a guy, a girl or a shemale, its there for 1 thing and thats to have fun:coupling:

[LadyBoys-Lover]

i think it's quite possible when u love women and ladyboys and don't love men

[Ayo4Yayo]

what i've noticed is that, the longer i've enjoyed watching and masturbating to shemales, the more i've leaned toward femboys and even a guy with a hard cock.

I think ultimately we are just huge fans of a big hard cock taht explodes and fills the room up with juice

:turnon:

[cali4417]

Four words, Best of both worlds!

[TheSkronkDonkey]

Like what you like, transcend all labels, beat the system.

Or something.

Seriously, I don't think there's a label that could describe me. Nor would I wish for one!

[twistedone]

The age old and ongoing question. Kinda tires me to see it all the time.

Just be yourself and enjoy whether your hetro, bi, or gay.

[russellwu]

I think the segregation of gender into heterosexual, homosexual, transsexual, etc... is flawed. Case in point, the originator of this thread. I think a more appropriate classification would be something like "attracted to the male form", "attracted to the female form", etc... with subgroups pertaining to the extent or criteria of the person: and this is probably where hetero and homo come in.

For example, I would be "attracted to the female form" and "bisexual". Meaning, as long as the person looks like a girl (and has the looks, mind you), i don't really care what i find down there. :P

[belfagar]

I don't think liking or loving she-males is a gay thing. human sexuality is to complex to sum up. I have never touched a penis that wasn't my own. I have no desire to have any kind of sexual relations with a man. But i would play with Barbie Woods. no conflict here.

[sesame]

Sometimes shemales are more feminine than females in their mannerism. Those who learn to become like a girl attain feminine traits and idiosyncrasies so much that they surpass natural girls. Plus you get the bonus feature hidden between her legs! A real "all in one" package. So I guess Ladyboys are really intrigueing, and thus they catch our attention. So my friend, fear not. One third of the world is behind you!:yes:

[belfagar]

You know the whole thing is, it quite simply turns me on to watch a she-male strokin it. I get hard, follow thru. And i don't ask why i do it i just enjoy it. My slice of heaven. It's one of the few things i have in my life that brings me joy and satisfaction.

[simonne5478]

I just think of shemales as females with dicks. I don´t have sex with males but enjiy "gay like girls". I also get turned on by small breasted shemales, but definitely am not turned on by guys.

[jimudon]

I have no problem saying that I lean to the gay side and being a bottom only too. I only want to have sex with a parner who has a real cock. I prefer the femboy look though. GGs just don't cut it for me. Once you have a real cock hit your male gspot, there is no going back!

[giancarlo]

I think Ladyboy lovers are just Ladyboy lovers.

[tslust]

I hate this whole gay or straight thing, to me its just sex, doesn't matter if its with a guy, a girl or a shemale, its there for 1 thing and thats to have fun:coupling:

:respect:I prefer shemales, but would be willing to play with a cute gay (a big cock is a plus:turnon:).:drool:

[briana]

I think ALL people are inherently bi-sexual to some degree, wether they admit it or not. One can be in the lady boy camp and still be on the hetro side. I like very fem ladyboys, but I also like girls that are fem to. The idea of having sex with your average man is gross to me , more so if its a muscle head type. It is a personal thing, but the majority here seem to think it's not a gay thing, but perhaps closer to that middle ground.
Just more dessert on the plate to choose from!!

[gflex]

i like shemales, like their fem looking, their lovely cocks, would suck 'em, but i think i'd never be with a gay. i'm attracted to girls with dick, not to men !

[LoverofShemales]

I know some that are bi and gay but neither think she-males are hot. Are those that love shemales like us a whole different group and if so, what could we be called other than "Shemale Lovers"?

[hankhavelock]

We're probably as diverse as any one else. And remember, sexuality is a moving and dynamic thing. Tomorrow you may be attracted to ways that you find uninteresting today :-) But you're most likely not gay - certainly not if the term "gay" means "homosexual".

There may be a slight degree of bisexuality in being attracted to a transsexual woman - or there may not. It differs from person to person.

Just enjoy and be happy that you can find the beauty in a transsexual woman.

Peace!

H

[gunslinger1985]

You're definately not gay. I mean, I think for the most part we are attracted to a feminine person with a little something extra.

[Show Me Love]

...better say cock-sucker?

U guys are killing me!
yall say ur stright most of u never seen any tgirl in person, but after reading forum for a day i feel like u going to suck anything w/ dick. i bet u would cum even on my pics if i get done some makeup couse i'm lookin better then good part of 'shemales' u'r hot about here.

how that could happen really?
i mean i like tgirls too even more i maybe will be the one too, but i'm very picky-choosy and sucking cock looks absolutely gay to me if u'r not a girl, tgirl or look like one. its kinda disgusting when i see such moments in porn - man giving a head. i would like to blow some cute tgirl though. thanks u can see youself when u do it(if there is no big mirrors there)

anyway how is stright guy could become shecock lover/sucker? especially destinationally?

[Bionca]

Probably best to let the guys answer this, but here is my observation...

Most guys see a woman they find attractive who has a penis. Something "clicks" for them and they explore this more. For most guys it starts as a purely sexual impulse and curiosity. For many guys it firmly stays that way.

For other guys, they develop an appreciation for the women of their coriosity. They become attracted not only to our physical bodies, but also to our strength, courage, and determination. They find that we posess an insight into what it is to be a MAN as well as an understanding of what it is to be a woman. The non-sexual "best of both worlds".

Pleasuring one's sexual partner is important. So, sucking on some "sheinis" seems elementary to the guys who want to date/sex-up a T-gal. They view the activity not as "sucking cock", but as making sure their girl has a good time too.

As far as the comments on how some of the gals look.. that's really not fair. People are attracted to what/who attracts them. One man's goddess is another man's fugly. So, you may see a "man in a dress" (:censored:) where another man sees the perfect compliment to his particular taste.

Sexual expression is 100% beautiful all the time between consenting adults. Man/woman, woman/woman, man/man, man/trans, woman/trans, man/woman/trans/man/man/woman. Personally, I reserve "disgust" for pornographic depictons of rape. I may find particular "players" in a sex combo "disgusting" (Ron Jeremy), but the expression of the sex doesn't disgust me.

[ila]

Probably best to let the guys answer this, but here is my observation...

Most guys see a woman they find attractive who has a penis. Something "clicks" for them and they explore this more. For most guys it starts as a purely sexual impulse and curiosity. For many guys it firmly stays that way.

For other guys, they develop an appreciation for the women of their coriosity. They become attracted not only to our physical bodies, but also to our strength, courage, and determination. They find that we posess an insight into what it is to be a MAN as well as an understanding of what it is to be a woman. The non-sexual "best of both worlds".

Pleasuring one's sexual partner is important. So, sucking on some "sheinis" seems elementary to the guys who want to date/sex-up a T-gal. They view the activity not as "sucking cock", but as making sure their girl has a good time too.

As far as the comments on how some of the gals look.. that's really not fair. People are attracted to what/who attracts them. One man's goddess is another man's fugly. So, you may see a "man in a dress" (:censored:) where another man sees the perfect compliment to his particular taste.

Sexual expression is 100% beautiful all the time between consenting adults. Man/woman, woman/woman, man/man, man/trans, woman/trans, man/woman/trans/man/man/woman. Personally, I reserve "disgust" for pornographic depictons of rape. I may find particular "players" in a sex combo "disgusting" (Ron Jeremy), but the expression of the sex doesn't disgust me.

Well said Bionca.:respect::respect:

[cham]

Bionca,

What you've said sums up what many of us feel.

Cham

[Show Me Love]

ok, ok... she know all the answers but she is not a man who become t-lover so don't hides behind her, sysyadmins. yall post dozen of nasty dickaddicted screaming cumming messages and have nothing to say upfront?
there should be some difference between pleasuring your cute tgirl next to you and switch from straight to tranny porn and get into shedong dreams destinationally (virtually?). afterall, u know, dong is a dong. there is must be something serious to change your taste diametrically? isn't?

[Desperanto]

In Greece shemales call shemale lovers ''Balamos'' I don't know why

[ila]

...better say cock-sucker?

U guys are killing me!
yall say ur stright most of u never seen any tgirl in person, but after reading forum for a day i feel like u going to suck anything w/ dick. i bet u would cum even on my pics if i get done some makeup couse i'm lookin better then good part of 'shemales' u'r hot about here.

how that could happen really?
i mean i like tgirls too even more i maybe will be the one too, but i'm very picky-choosy and sucking cock looks absolutely gay to me if u'r not a girl, tgirl or look like one. its kinda disgusting when i see such moments in porn - man giving a head. i would like to blow some cute tgirl though. thanks u can see youself when u do it(if there is no big mirrors there)

anyway how is stright guy could become shecock lover/sucker? especially destinationally?


I'm not really sure why you are even here on the web site. You attack everyone's views and the comments they make. You don't like the fact that men like tgirls or want to have sex with them. Maybe you would find yourself happier and better off if you didn't come here at all.

[lopey]

I'm not really sure why you are even here on the web site. You attack everyone's views and the comments they make. You don't like the fact that men like tgirls or want to have sex with them. Maybe you would find yourself happier and better off if you didn't come here at all.

Have to agree with this and with Bionca wholeheartedly.

if you're not TOO dim, think about why the 'rainbow' is such a fitting symbol. A spectrum of interests, desires, accepting them is the key, even if it isn't exactly your bag.

[Justme]

Bionca has explained things pretty well, but I might as well add my two cents.

To me, it started out of pure curiosity. I was like 16, just got the internet, had to look at porn you know. I came across the word "shemale" and got curious. I had a pretty good idea what to expect but you never know. I looked at the site, had a very beautiful lady..picture was loading (on dial up) she had awesome boobs too...then BAM, a huge hard cock.

I was like OH SHIT and closed it out. Later on however (like most teens I'm sure) I began to wonder about sex with another guy. Thing is though, I wasn't and still am not attracted to the male body. What I mean is I don't look at a guy and say "Wow, he's cute!" like I do with women. To this day I still don't...no, I'm not in denial or anything, I consider myself as bi as one can get and don't mind admitting I like cock. I just don't like the male body, I dig femininity. Smooth skin, hardly any or no hair at all; not huge muscles, sweat and body hair (I know, it's a generalization and there are very feminine boys out there, but bare with me). That being said, tgirls are my escape, they are the perfect way for me to have what I love. A feminine body but yet the extra tool that's always fun.

It's not all about sex either though. I believe it was someone on this site that mentioned tgirls know all about men, they grew up in the locker room with us! So, on an intellectual level I feel they really understand guys a bit better than a gg...which is sometimes good, sometimes bad, but that's part of the adventure. I just feel I can relate a little more with a tgirl...and after all, relationships are based around that very thing. Don't get me wrong, I still date ggs like always, mainly because there isn't an abundance of tgirls in my area, but one day I hope to experience something with 'a girl with a boys toy.'

- Ok there's my two cents, hope it made sense :yes:

I'm not really sure why you are even here on the web site. You attack everyone's views and the comments they make. You don't like the fact that men like tgirls or want to have sex with them. Maybe you would find yourself happier and better off if you didn't come here at all.
I agree with this so much, I haven't been here long, but all I ever see Showmelove post are flames. It isn't my place to tell you to leave if you don't like it here, but you might find yourself a little better off if you did. Honestly, I don't think anyone here is *too* interested in hearing why we shouldn't like tgirls, we're here to discuss why we like them :).

[hankhavelock]

The fact is that there are still no known psychological explanations of why people are homosexual, transsexual, straight, sadomasochists etc. etc. But we still are!

And we certainly should learn to enjoy it a lot more :-) Well, I do :-)

I've learned that sexuality is a dynamic thing that leads us many places.

All I know is that from the first time I was made aware of transsexual women I felt strangely attracted. I had this almost deep and warm feeling. Not purely sexual, actually - it went beyond that.

How ever, it took years before I actually acted on this attraction. But once I finally did I truly opened up a part of myself that I'll claim to be one of the most important steps in getting to know myself better.

My personal belief is, that there may be some part of bisexuality in it, but I'm just speculating. Because no matter how erect and beautiful her penis is, I simply cannot view her organ as a male-organ. In other words, a penis on a transsexual woman becomes a highly feminine "attribute" to me. There's NOTHING masculine about my transsexual gf with a hard on - in fact, there's nothing more FEMININE...

On the other hand I have turned more "gay" after my intro to trans-women. Would I then like to have sex with Brad Pitt? Not at all. But my explanation may be that (again I'm merely speculating) after my "discovery" that a penis is no longer just a male-symbol but to me as much a female-symbol, this has opened up further possibilities :-)

I don't know and I may be rambling, but the issue is that to me it's been a wonderful journey - and one that seems to be on-going.

So simply enjoy it, every body! I for sure do...

Peace!

Hank

[hankhavelock]

For other guys, they develop an appreciation for the women of their coriosity. They become attracted not only to our physical bodies, but also to our strength, courage, and determination. They find that we posess an insight into what it is to be a MAN as well as an understanding of what it is to be a woman. The non-sexual "best of both worlds".

This is also an excellent point, Bionca. It's not at all purely sexual. It's a matter of finding respect for people who are a little bit different in their views - to truly understand them - and then to let yourself go in your appreciation.

As mentioned in my message just above I really do feel an amazing warmth when being with even just my transsexual friends - it's not sexual and it may be based on aforesaid respect and appreciation of "another kind of beauty or personality or what ever".

To me it's a feeling that I've never before felt for cisgendered women (and I admit to having been a bit of a ladies man in my time). Transsexual women bring forward in me other and deeper emotions. That's a fact... could it have to do with the often bigger fragility and vulnerability in transsexual women? The fact that they often need protection from the big, cruel and not-understanfing world? Does that make transsexual women even more feminine than cisgendered women who today are emancipated and strong and running for president? I don't now - but transsexual femininity is in a class of its own...

And it's highly satisfactory :-)

Peace!

Hank

[Show Me Love]

well i'm not trying to insult anybody here
i'm pretty sure i'm still way more sexually mutated than most of you so i have virtually full tolerance for almost everything
yea, sometimes i could be offending, blame on me. mood breaks you know. i'm fighting myself. don't mind. i luv you all.
H, you definetly got talent expressing your thoughts. i think i'm going to print your posts and stack it on bright place. i can sign up your every post, lot of sense.
Justme, i can relate to what you say too
peace

[hankhavelock]

well i'm not trying to insult anybody here
i'm pretty sure i'm still way more sexually mutated than most of you so i have virtually full tolerance for almost everything
yea, sometimes i could be offending, blame on me. mood breaks you know. i'm fighting myself. don't mind. i luv you all.
H, you definetly got talent expressing your thoughts. i think i'm going to print your posts and stack it on bright place. i can sign up your every post, lot of sense.
Justme, i can relate to what you say too
peace

We're here to share our personal thoughts and experiences - at least that's why I'm here. Don't worry about being offending - express your feelings as you have them. If people get offended that's their problem.

I've been an insider for three years and I find transsexuality extremely beautiful. It's the essence of "being who you are" and I find that totally fascinating. I'm completely open about who I am and about my love for transsexual women - however, I wonder how courageous I'd be if I were actually a transsexual myself. I understand the pain and all the hazzle, that's why the term "admirer" has a bit of meaning. Admiring people who have the guts to be whom they truly are in spite of all the evilness in a basicly heterosexual socalled democratic society.

So be proud of who you are!

Peace!

Hank

[hankhavelock]

Bionca has explained things pretty well, but I might as well add my two cents.

To me, it started out of pure curiosity. I was like 16, just got the internet, had to look at porn you know. I came across the word "shemale" and got curious. I had a pretty good idea what to expect but you never know. I looked at the site, had a very beautiful lady..picture was loading (on dial up) she had awesome boobs too...then BAM, a huge hard cock.

I was like OH SHIT and closed it out. Later on however (like most teens I'm sure) I began to wonder about sex with another guy. Thing is though, I wasn't and still am not attracted to the male body. What I mean is I don't look at a guy and say "Wow, he's cute!" like I do with women. To this day I still don't...no, I'm not in denial or anything, I consider myself as bi as one can get and don't mind admitting I like cock. I just don't like the male body, I dig femininity. Smooth skin, hardly any or no hair at all; not huge muscles, sweat and body hair (I know, it's a generalization and there are very feminine boys out there, but bare with me). That being said, tgirls are my escape, they are the perfect way for me to have what I love. A feminine body but yet the extra tool that's always fun.

It's not all about sex either though. I believe it was someone on this site that mentioned tgirls know all about men, they grew up in the locker room with us! So, on an intellectual level I feel they really understand guys a bit better than a gg...which is sometimes good, sometimes bad, but that's part of the adventure. I just feel I can relate a little more with a tgirl...and after all, relationships are based around that very thing. Don't get me wrong, I still date ggs like always, mainly because there isn't an abundance of tgirls in my area, but one day I hope to experience something with 'a girl with a boys toy.'

- Ok there's my two cents, hope it made sense :yes:

I agree with this so much, I haven't been here long, but all I ever see Showmelove post are flames. It isn't my place to tell you to leave if you don't like it here, but you might find yourself a little better off if you did. Honestly, I don't think anyone here is *too* interested in hearing why we shouldn't like tgirls, we're here to discuss why we like them :).

:respect: Hope you get a chance to experience love with a nice transsexual woman. If you have the drive inside you, then you must act on it. Easy for me to say because I've already done it (and live in a place where it's much easier to actually FIND transsexual women), but do it, pal!

It's very rare now that I'm with a gg - it happens but I seem to find myself in a situation where I ask myself: "Hmmm - and why was it I did this?" When I'm with a transsexual lover I'm truly "at home". Maybe you will feel the same way!

Peace!

Hank

[nadyasaphira]

i think if you love shemales doesnt mean that your gay...

[nadyasaphira]

i think if you like shemales doesnt mean your gay...coz shemales are female..

[hankhavelock]

I've honestly given up trying to put myself into a particular category. I'm probably mildly bisexual in the sense that I adore transsexual women and socalled femboys (sissy gays). Nowadays I find gg less interesting (even though I'm not immune :-) Big, hunky, macho guys don't really rock my world, though... actually, I don't find a penis particularly masculine. To me it's more a symbol of transsexual femininity.

[belfagar]

No. Your the one struggling with this and only you can be gay or not. I am not gay. Homosexuals dont like female forms like we do. I just love t-girls.:turnon:

[twistedone]

Sigh

An age old question I've read a hundred....if not a thousand times?

Only YOU can answer these questions.

1. Do you get only sexually aroused with the thought of sex with a person of the same sex? If so, you might be gay. Accept it.

2. Do you get sexually aroused with the thought of sex with both sexes? If so, you aren't gay, your bisexual. Lucky dog, you have the best of both worlds.

3. Do you only get sexually aroused with the thought of sex with the opposite sex? Your a heterosexual.

It really doesn't concern me what your answer is. Either way, your life can still be fun and exciting. Thats up to you.

[Bionca]

I consider myself heterosexual who at one point mis-identified as a gay man. So, I'm a straight girl with gay-male sensabilities.. talk about the best of both worlds....

Oh god, I'm such a tranny fag-hag

[LoverofShemales]

First of all... thanks to all who took the time to reply to my question and to be honest, the more time I spend here at this website, reading responses and questions... I actually feel special and unique because of the level of open mindedness (is that a word?) and honesty of those who visit here.

Thanks again for the responses and after everthing... I am who I am and that's it!

[Show Me Love]

what could we be called other than "Shemale Lovers"?

Fags :lol:
Thats how everyone gonna call you if they find out and you better be ready for that. But things going better on this subjects with every hour. We beta testing heterogay term right now ;)
seriously i can't get why every heterogay ask on this forum 'am i gay?'. no one but you know the answer for sure

[sesame]

Its just that I dont want to sound hateful...
But sometimes, its so difficult to SHOW LOVE to some withered souls!

SMLove, cool off!
Here is an easy way--->

[twistedone]

So what if a person calls you a fag, of queer if your gay. Its only a shallow label that fails to show your true self.

Are you willing to let a label run your life? Are you willing to allow someone to judge you and abide by their judgment?

As I've said before, THIS is why I have so much respect for TGs, and TS. They are standing up against society's highly inaccurate judgment of them and are pursing their own happiness. Let them be an example for us all.

Fags :lol:
Thats how everyone gonna call you if they find out and you better be ready for that. But things going better on this subjects with every hour. We beta testing heterogay term right now ;)
seriously i can't get why every heterogay ask on this forum 'am i gay?'. no one but you know the answer for sure

[hankhavelock]

The only person that has to be happy with it is ourselves.

Stop the inner turmoil, accept what you are, and enjoy the heck out of it.

BRAVO!:respect:

[Bionca]

Very nicely put Twistedone. In Show Me Love's defence, he is right though. Once it is determined that your girl is trans, you become a "fag" as far as most people care.

I think that's part of the issue with a lot of guys. Guys who date me and gals like me need to come to terms with that BEFORE they try to date us or sex us up.

[hankhavelock]

Fags :lol:
Thats how everyone gonna call you if they find out and you better be ready for that. But things going better on this subjects with every hour. We beta testing heterogay term right now ;)
seriously i can't get why every heterogay ask on this forum 'am i gay?'. no one but you know the answer for sure

In all fairness, I've never been called a "fag" - in spite of the fact that I haven't exactly kept my love for transsexual women a secret :-) The closest I've ever been to such a label must have been when my first x-wife (upon me enthusiasticly elaborating on my new-found love) smilingly asked if I had turned gay at such an old age... :-)

:frown:

[hankhavelock]

Very nicely put Twistedone. In Show Me Love's defence, he is right though. Once it is determined that your girl is trans, you become a "fag" as far as most people care.

I think that's part of the issue with a lot of guys. Guys who date me and gals like me need to come to terms with that BEFORE they try to date us or sex us up.

Oh, come on now, darling Bionca... it isn't THAT bad! We don't have to come to terms with anything but our very own true way! Who cares what some strangers may whisper behind your back - and if they'd ever be gutsy enuff to confrount you, well, then just SMILE, throw out your arms and exclaim: YES! IM A TRANS-LOVER AND I'M SO HAPPY TO BE! And she loves me too!

[sesame]

Twistedone:
So what if a person calls you a fag, of queer if your gay. Its only a shallow label that fails to show your true self.

Are you willing to let a label run your life? Are you willing to allow someone to judge you and abide by their judgment?
Its really good stuff! Wow, man, Shakespeare would have been impressed by you. You could have inspired Dale Carnegie with that hot hot hot speech!:respect:
The only person that has to be happy with it is ourselves.
This one is pure inspiration. :hug:

[ila]

Oh, come on now, darling Bionca... it isn't THAT bad! We don't have to come to terms with anything but our very own true way! Who cares what some strangers may whisper behind your back - and if they'd ever be gutsy enuff to confrount you, well, then just SMILE, throw out your arms and exclaim: YES! IM A TRANS-LOVER AND I'M SO HAPPY TO BE! And she loves me too!

:respect: Well put Hank.

[LBLOVER]

It is all down to you

[sweetshemale18]

very true i give a damn as long as me and my partner are happy..i was just trying to add up the discussion :)

[hiphop_listener]

Well i think if i like shemales, that doesn't make me gay cuz i am attracted by hers feminine looks

[hankhavelock]

Well i think if i like shemales, that doesn't make me gay cuz i am attracted by hers feminine looks

Nope, it doesn't necessarily make you gay at all, far from! BUT it just may open your taste for other sides of you sexuality... you may become more bold and daring... and THAT I really suggest that you're open for, pal! Noone thanks you to limit yourself in the dynamic process of being a sexual being. So walk briskly and boldly into this amazing world, and don't focus a lot on which labels others may put on you! They dunno crap anyways :-)

Best wishes! Go get them lill hotties :-)

Peace!

H

[hiphop_listener]

Nope, it doesn't necessarily make you gay at all, far from! BUT it just may open your taste for other sides of you sexuality... you may become more bold and daring... and THAT I really suggest that you're open for, pal! Noone thanks you to limit yourself in the dynamic process of being a sexual being. So walk briskly and boldly into this amazing world, and don't focus a lot on which labels others may put on you! They dunno crap anyways :-)

Best wishes! Go get them lill hotties :-)

Peace!

H

Hehe thx hank, there is a whole new world yup :D

[boneher]

I too strugled with this question ever since I discovered my affinity for shemales. And I don't think theres is a straight answer. I found some consolation in knowing that there are others like me out there.

On a side note and related to this, throughout history there have been many accounts of straight men that induleged in sex with other men. Greeks for one were well renovened as "boy lovers". Also I reccount watching a documentary on History channel "Taboo sexuallity" and a segment about a "holyday" in India when straight married men would go out en masse and have sex with trannies, and this is perfectly socially acceptable.

In conclusion, it's like 'whatever floats your boat' thing. :coupling:

/rant.

[Nielsholgerson]

I think it's a total difference whenever you can look a shemale in her eyes and tell that you love her, or you look a man in his eyes and tell that you live him.

For me I cannot look in a man's eyes and tell that I love him.
But if I look a shemale in her eyes I can fall in love.

p.s. getting my ass fucked has nothing to do with love. :innocent:

[hankhavelock]

I think it's a total difference whenever you can look a shemale in her eyes and tell that you love her, or you look a man in his eyes and tell that you live him.

For me I cannot look in a man's eyes and tell that I love him.
But if I look a shemale in her eyes I can fall in love.

p.s. getting my ass fucked has nothing to do with love. :innocent:

That's a nice way to put it actually - when falling in love with a transsexual woman you fall for the woman in her much much more than the man in her. I've had affairs with "non-transsexual-men" as well, but they have all had a very distinctive female quality. I couldn't really and honestly fall for a man either.

However, this to me still means to cheerish the man in her - that's why I believe that there is some bisexuality in this - how else does it make any sense?

For example, could I fall for a post-op transsexual woman? Hmmm... maybe I could, but she would not be AS FEMININE to me as a pre-op trans-woman... I know I speak against common perception of female and male sexual attributes, but her dick DOES make her into "my kind of a true woman" for me.

The truth stands! There simply isn't anything more feminine than your girlfriend with a hard on! Not for me at least.

[KirstenHershe]

If your a man and into shemales? Sorry hun but yes, you are gay.

Hugs,
Kirsten

[tommyver1]

I consider myself heterosexual who at one point mis-identified as a gay man. So, I'm a straight girl with gay-male sensabilities.. talk about the best of both worlds....

Oh god, I'm such a tranny fag-hag


Hey Bionca, you are not hetero, you are divine...
I love your spirit, I'm "married" with lovely Tgal and you have the same irony
and good spirit...:hug:

[brianna]

I enjoyed the comments from Hank, Bionca and others. In my opinion, we are all different, and to try to classify or peg us as stereotypes, it's not going to work most of the time.

I feel that all of us are subject to criticism, verbal attacks, and attempts at humiliation, no matter whether we are straight or anything else. To adjust our life, our outlook, our relationships, and our behavior largely based on other people's thought and comments is to not be true to ourselves. You can judge how much of a conformist to be, but I suggest we always move toward bettering ourselves during our lifetime.

And to answer the original question "am I gay?", I'd say no. That's not where most of us are, since many of us are attracted to the female form.

Sorry if I sound preachy- just expressing myself.

lots of love...

[hankhavelock]

I enjoyed the comments from Hank, Bionca and others. In my opinion, we are all different, and to try to classify or peg us as stereotypes, it's not going to work most of the time.

I feel that all of us are subject to criticism, verbal attacks, and attempts at humiliation, no matter whether we are straight or anything else. To adjust our life, our outlook, our relationships, and our behavior largely based on other people's thought and comments is to not be true to ourselves. You can judge how much of a conformist to be, but I suggest we always move toward bettering ourselves during our lifetime.

And to answer the original question "am I gay?", I'd say no. That's not where most of us are, since many of us are attracted to the female form.

Sorry if I sound preachy- just expressing myself.

lots of love...

I agree completely - it would seem that the people who so vigorously need to label us as gay or what ever are the ones who have not really grasped the depths of transsexuality - neither for transsexual woman nor for the guys who are attracted to trans-women.

I usually smile when people present "absolutes" - they just need it to make their lives fit into the little boxes that the moral majority taught them are the true ones.

Besides, who cares if we are gay or str8 or freaks or just ourselves? We are a small minority of folks who happen to have a different outlook on sexuality and gender-identity. And as long as WE can handle it then that's all that really is important.

Peace!

H

[lblavr]

I never had sex with a man and after spending my first night with a ladyboy I felt so guilty and was afraid I might be gay.
today I enjoy cocks and cum more and more and I accept whatever I am.:turnon:

[filmschlumpf]

I am really not gay although I love shemale cocks. But a shemale always has to look like a sexy girl if her cock isn't visible. So its ok, if she looks like a man - awful, I turn away.

[hankhavelock]

I never had sex with a man and after spending my first night with a ladyboy I felt so guilty and was afraid I might be gay.
today I enjoy cocks and cum more and more and I accept whatever I am.:turnon:

Way to go, my MAN! Screw the prudes and be yourself! :respect: Besides, how many prudes know what they are talking about? Have they maybe ever tried the blissful pleasure of being royally fucked by a gorgeous woman? And experienced her passion and love? Have they ever held her close and heard her whispered and intense stories of an amazing journey of life?

Naaah... me dink not...

So rock on, pal!

H

[phatpharm2k]

Hi All,

I'm new and I'll throw in my 2cents. I'm not a psychologist but dated one for many years and we openly discussed the my interests. It's generally accepted that sexuality is a spectrum heterosexual on one end homosexual on the other bisexual in the middle. Most people are somewhere between the two extremes. If you're male and into a cock, whether it's on a "female form" or not you're somewhere in bisexual zone at the minimum. Hetero male is a cock free zone.

To be honest I joined the forum to get some free porn. I'm not trying to start any trouble but I'd like to make some comments about the forum itself. I have lot's of sexual interest - boobs, big butts, latinas, female body builders, amazons, pantyhose and so on. This is the only forum I've read that has a "gay" feel to it. Threads like build your perfect shemale, who has the prettiest eyes, deep voices turn me on. It's pretty subtle but it's still pretty different from your average group on horny dudes.

I've never had sex with a man or shemale and never will. If being attracted to shemale or female body builder makes me bisexual so be it. Ya are what ya are.

Cheers,
Jimbo

[hankhavelock]

Hi All,

I'm new and I'll throw in my 2cents. I'm not a psychologist but dated one for many years and we openly discussed the my interests. It's generally accepted that sexuality is a spectrum heterosexual on one end homosexual on the other bisexual in the middle. Most people are somewhere between the two extremes. If you're male and into a cock, whether it's on a "female form" or not you're somewhere in bisexual zone at the minimum. Hetero male is a cock free zone.

To be honest I joined the forum to get some free porn. I'm not trying to start any trouble but I'd like to make some comments about the forum itself. I have lot's of sexual interest - boobs, big butts, latinas, female body builders, amazons, pantyhose and so on. This is the only forum I've read that has a "gay" feel to it. Threads like build your perfect shemale, who has the prettiest eyes, deep voices turn me on. It's pretty subtle but it's still pretty different from your average group on horny dudes.

I've never had sex with a man or shemale and never will. If being attracted to shemale or female body builder makes me bisexual so be it. Ya are what ya are.

Cheers,
Jimbo


very well said :respect: welcome here!

[twistedone]

It helps to feel secure about one's own sexuality then embrace it.

The cartoon character "Popeye" use to always say. "I yam what I yam".

Its my strong belief that the character was telling us to accept ourselves as we are.

Just my 2 cents worth.



Very nicely put Twistedone. In Show Me Love's defence, he is right though. Once it is determined that your girl is trans, you become a "fag" as far as most people care.

I think that's part of the issue with a lot of guys. Guys who date me and gals like me need to come to terms with that BEFORE they try to date us or sex us up.

[ShemaleFan_UK]

Who cares what people think or how they want to label us. Shemales are very special people and we are afficionados.

[porno4lyfe]

im a male, and i was wondering about it too, if i was gay, but im not i think there just hott and sexy.

[dude89]

i also wondered if i was gay but im only attracted to shemales. i dont find guys sexually attractive at all

[rwtzero]

its actually a really good question .... i'm leaning toward yes .. bi at the least.

[twistedone]

What more can I say? You are also right. People will still label you if you stray from what is the norm.

From my own personal experience though, labels cause more problems then benefit.

I'm older, and much wiser now, and I feel this is one reason why I have so much respect and admiration for the TS and TG. They have taken the bull by the horns, said "Screw it, I'm doing what I have to do for my own happiness and peace of mind".

That said, the TS and TG are really powers of examples for all of us.

Very nicely put Twistedone. In Show Me Love's defence, he is right though. Once it is determined that your girl is trans, you become a "fag" as far as most people care.

I think that's part of the issue with a lot of guys. Guys who date me and gals like me need to come to terms with that BEFORE they try to date us or sex us up.

[Bionca]

What more can I say? You are also right. People will still label you if you stray from what is the norm.

From my own personal experience though, labels cause more problems then benefit.

I'm older, and much wiser now, and I feel this is one reason why I have so much respect and admiration for the TS and TG. They have taken the bull by the horns, said "Screw it, I'm doing what I have to do for my own happiness and peace of mind".

That said, the TS and TG are really powers of examples for all of us.

Absolutely correct Twistedone - labels are only really useful as a kind of mental shorthand to describe groups of people based on commonalities. Aside from that, it's best to deal with people as individuals who happen to embody any number of labels at any given time - and break every single one of them all the time. The joy of personal interaction is getting past what we assume and finding the richness of each individual person.

[twistedone]

Well said Bionca. Embrace the individual, their strengths and shortcomings all as one.

Absolutely correct Twistedone - labels are only really useful as a kind of mental shorthand to describe groups of people based on commonalities. Aside from that, it's best to deal with people as individuals who happen to embody any number of labels at any given time - and break every single one of them all the time. The joy of personal interaction is getting past what we assume and finding the richness of each individual person.

[lebguy]

Well I think this question was asked millions of times. Seriously why do we care. It's not our sexual orientation that defines our life. We ask these question because we are afraid what others will say about us if they know. If we are gays, lesbiens or we love shemales what difference will it make. We will still be successful people in this society. So I say you careless about other people's opinion and live your life and be happy. We come here only once so enjoy it.

Now to answer this specific question as most here said, we are guys who love girls but with a little extra and as far as I am concerned I like all kind of girls with a little extra or not and I careless what other people say. :respect:

[Big_Willie]

I mean, I think for the most part we are attracted to a feminine person with a little something extra.
I think so too. :respect:

[hankhavelock]

Absolutely correct Twistedone - labels are only really useful as a kind of mental shorthand to describe groups of people based on commonalities. Aside from that, it's best to deal with people as individuals who happen to embody any number of labels at any given time - and break every single one of them all the time. The joy of personal interaction is getting past what we assume and finding the richness of each individual person.

AMEN! And "phew"... then just mmmmmmmmmaybe I'm not a flaming queen...:eek:

[Bionca]

Hank.. embrace your inner sissy-pants .. it's good for the soul ;)

[rocketman]

I think what you are most attracted to is being the less dominant lover...thats what attracts me to t-girls...its still an attraction to females...just the curiosity of being on the other end of things...

[ila]

Does it really matter? Enjoy your attraction and quit worrying what others think and you then you will have a much happier life. You are the only whose opinion matters to yourself.

[JamesWest]

There are some very good comments here. I think the comment, to each his own is very appropriate here. For me I can look at a nude transsexual women and get totally turned on, but when I look at a nude man it does absolutely nothing for me. It actually turns me off. I think we forget the meaning of the word gay, simply put gay means happy :) and if you are happy with a transsexual great! If you are happy with a man, whatever floats your boat. Most people are generally happy so I would say that most people are generally "gay". Let's stop putting labels on everything and love one another. That will put a stop to all kinds of hate and hate crime. Just some of my thoughts on the issue, take it or leave it. :respect:

James

[BLUEJS75]

Hmmm..I'm definitely not gay, nor am I attracted to guys. I guess it's the whole feminine look with breasts and something extra.

Let's face it, guys look at porn. We're turned on to the girl and watching a cock in action. Put the cock on a shemale and there you have it..the best of both worlds!;)

[Benito]

I don't consider myself gay but I wouldn't mind a shemales cock in my mouth.

[CFKane]

I seem to be attracted to female bodybuilder like Denise Masino and Renita Harris but I also find women like Brooke Hogan and Brooke Shields ( the way she looks now) attractive because they look like women with a hint of masculinity.

I don't get into guys that look like a guy in any way but I do find that women with the strong cheek bones and jawlines like Erika Andersch (former American Gladiator) a real turn on. I went from FBB to Shemales while I still like "normal" hot chicks like Vida Guerra and Melyssa Ford but I find shemales like Patricia Aruajo, Amy, Anita Costa and Carla Renata equally as attractive.

I feel like the lines regarding sexual physical appearance have become more and more blurred over the years in ways that past generations never had to deal with or even contemplate. We have steroids and growth hormones that can make a very pretty, feminine woman like Denise Masino (she has a 4 inch clit) and turn her into a different hybrid type that didn't exist 20-30 years ago on the level of today. We also have plastic surgeons, great make up techniques and hormone therapy that can make a guy look like the most beautiful women with perfect tits and ass, flawless skin as well as a face that is more attractive than 85% of all "women."

My basic point is that we are in a totally different age and that your grandfathers rule don't necessarily apply in this constantly evolving hybrid sexuality. I am not attracted to a feminine form that appears more than 25% masculine. In the fashion world you see it a lot with models like Fredrique and Brigitte Nielsen and a few others that made a name with an exotic look that had elements of taboo.

p.s.

I see shemales like hot chicks, I would only bang them doggy and get a blow job but I am not interested in touching penis in any way. I do like to see thems jerking and with a erection will they are getting banged or blowing... but that's just me.

[DL_NL]

We don't live in a binary world, there's plenty between 0 and 1, i.e. hetero and gay. Life gets much easier when you stop pushing yourself into a single -perceived- niche.

[Pedro DB]

I was sitting upstairs in a bar the other night in Bangla Road, Patong trying to get some decent pictures for my blog. Suddenly a waitress appeared and pointed out onto the street. "Ladyboys!", she said in a warning tone. "I know", I replied.

"You Like?" she said a little taken aback. "I like everything I like" I responded. That's the truth - and presently includes Ladies & Ladyboys (Pre & Post Op) but not Men.

I've had the same discussion with friends of mine who also have similar interests and the short answer is that none of us believe we are gay. Having said that we don't care what anyone else thinks of us either. Accept us or take a hike is our motto.

My view is that I always take the most beautiful/sexiest whatever. Here in Thailand the Ladyboys are always sexier than the ladies - they just have a particular look and/or are more extrovert or (frequently) have a better build match for the average European.

My other friends who say they are only into ladies have had to agree that Ladyboys are incredibly sexy. So, who's kidding themself. Not me.

I don't consider myself as gay. Possibly, bi-sexual but generally don't even think about it.

Am I Happy? Oh Yes!

[indian_shemale_lover]

For me the process started with a fetish for anal sex. In MF porn I mean. Then kinda got bored of it, so decided to try kinkier stuff-A2M and rimming. One heavenly day while looking at some rimming pics I glanced upon a shemale being rimmed. With that cock of hers erect in full glory and the guy with a raging hard on too, something clicked in my head. Its been two glorious years of whacking off to erect ladyboy cocks. My fetish is to one day lick of my anal juices off my shemale lover's cock and to look deep into her eyes while doing it.....
Sigh when will the day come?

[practicename]

I started looking at shemales when some friends played a prank on me and left shemale porn on my computer. I saw the images and pretended to be in disguist but really enjoyed the images. My love for shemales is a mix of what everyone else has already said.

On a non sexual level, shemales use to be male, so they have some of the tougher characteristics of males - yet also the grace and sensetivity of women. Intellectually knowing what men want to is a HUGE bonus.

I also cannot deny I like cock. I've been hit on by some gay men, one of them very feminine, but have turned all of them down. I live in an area that probably has little to no shemales. My ultimate dream, even though I'm with a gg, is to find a shemale to be with.

So as the cliche goes, I love shemales cause they are the best of both worlds.

[jimnaseum]

There are some simpler reasons guys go for "shemales" too.
Like the internet makes it so easy.
Like if you're old and single, you want more "flavor" than when you were young and horny.
With the divorce rate at 80% in the US now, and workdays for men and women at 10-12 hours, traditional romance is real work.
There are much worse sex lives than being "gay"
Even Rick Blaine and Ilsa Lund had a stormy romance.
There are no ordinary sex lives.

[TracyCoxx]

For me it was 2 things that initially got me lusting over shemale porn. Before that, like a lot of guys I was hooked on watching lesbian porn. When I ran across shemales it seemed like a natural. If one of the girls in a lesbian couple had a dick, then they could really have sex. I tossed aside pictures of guys sucking shemale cocks and looked for the ones where real girls and/or shemales were sucking off shemales or especially shemales fucking girls.

The 2nd thing is I like to crossdress, and I liked to fantasize that I am a shemale making love to a woman. Like my sig says... I'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body.

[Ogryn1313]

...better say cock-sucker?

U guys are killing me!
yall say ur stright most of u never seen any tgirl in person, but after reading forum for a day i feel like u going to suck anything w/ dick. i bet u would cum even on my pics if i get done some makeup couse i'm lookin better then good part of 'shemales' u'r hot about here.

how that could happen really?
i mean i like tgirls too even more i maybe will be the one too, but i'm very picky-choosy and sucking cock looks absolutely gay to me if u'r not a girl, tgirl or look like one. its kinda disgusting when i see such moments in porn - man giving a head. i would like to blow some cute tgirl though. thanks u can see youself when u do it(if there is no big mirrors there)

anyway how is stright guy could become shecock lover/sucker? especially destinationally?

Well, here is my explanation. But before I get into it please keep in mind I speak for myself only and cannot answer for other men. But perhaps my reasons might be the same as other men. Also keep in mind, I've never met a tgirl and have never been with one or even got to speak.

As a child I never went through that period many little boys have. I call it the "Icky Girls" phase. You know, where little boys act as if they hate women.

Nope. Not this ol' boy. I loved the women they moment I was born. But, as a child I didn't have a developed sense of sexuality. I didn't know society's notions of right and wrong when it came to things like sexuality, crushes, attraction etc. I was just a stupid kid who loved girls.

But I also liked boys it would seem. I recall, in the third grade having a crush on on male student in my school. And I even so far as to draw a silly little love picture of him. It was anonymously made and surreptiously left on his desk. And the teacher made such a big deal out of it and demanded who did it. Needless to say I kept my mouth shut and this was when I was first aware of sexual taboos.

But I didn't think much of it being a kid and all.

And so the years pass. I get older. And, like all kids, slowly encounter sexuality and society's views of it. And I repressed everything. Openly, I always liked girl. And I truly do love them. But I liked the boys too. Not as much as I did girls.

Here there during puberty I experimented with my sexuality, even dressing as a girl. But that might have been more kink than actual gender issues or such. I masturbate alot. Introduced to porn as a child. and as I grew older it became harder to ignore the feelings in me. In the past when seeing nude males and such I'd pretend it sickened me. But it got to the point they aroused as much as women sometimes.

This led to me experimenting in college many years ago. I decided at most I am bi. I couldn't be gay now could? A gay man wouldn't love girls. And so I love them. A pity they won't return the sentiment...bitches.:frown:...

But anyway, my only experience beyond only being with women was a threesome with a married couple. He went down on me. Then we did his wife. At the time I wanted this. Afterwards I hated myself for it. Long afterwards I came to accept it.

Tgirls..I didn't know much about them until around this period. I never saw them except the stereotypes you get in movies. My only exposure to them was through the way society would depict them. I knew a girl who was a hermaphrodite but it wasn't quite the same issue. So, to me, tgirls..or trannies, shemales, whatever people call them, were mysterious and as a man I am supposed to find them disgusting.

But I couldn't do that really. Quite the opposite. I found them appealing and interesting. I still don't quite understand my feelings for them. And it would seem rather foolish for a man who has never met one or spoke to one to even think about them. It's like wanting to go to the moon. Yet I do. Over the years my thoughts on them became more refined. Initially I saw them as guys wanting to be girls. Eventually I saw them as women. This was helped by my training as a counselor and through researching and education about gender identity and the like.

And so, I suppose I like them because they are women. And I like women. But as I said I like boys too. But my feelings for boys are only sexual based. Always, through it all, I could only ever be emotionally connected to a woman, including those ones who have a little something else down below. I don't know if it means I'm straight, gay, bi or what. I don't care. I think it is safe to assume anyone who is a male and is attracted to tgirls is someone with complicated and perhaps even painful feelings inside. And for many of us it could well be just a kinky sexual thing. For others it could be an evolution of sexual and emotional attraction. Either way, it's all a moot point for me. As I've not met one. And I have only the one experience with a man. I bring that back up only because the man has a dick like a pre-op. The two are not the same in my mind. But would I feel the same if I did meet one and have some experience or relationship? Would I turn against the idea or finally be at peace? Beats me. If it ever happens I'll let ya know eh?

[mrtrebus]

Probably best to let the guys answer this, but here is my observation...

Most guys see a woman they find attractive who has a penis. Something "clicks" for them and they explore this more. For most guys it starts as a purely sexual impulse and curiosity. For many guys it firmly stays that way.

For other guys, they develop an appreciation for the women of their coriosity. They become attracted not only to our physical bodies, but also to our strength, courage, and determination. They find that we posess an insight into what it is to be a MAN as well as an understanding of what it is to be a woman. The non-sexual "best of both worlds".

Pleasuring one's sexual partner is important. So, sucking on some "sheinis" seems elementary to the guys who want to date/sex-up a T-gal. They view the activity not as "sucking cock", but as making sure their girl has a good time too.

As far as the comments on how some of the gals look.. that's really not fair. People are attracted to what/who attracts them. One man's goddess is another man's fugly. So, you may see a "man in a dress" (:censored:) where another man sees the perfect compliment to his particular taste.

Sexual expression is 100% beautiful all the time between consenting adults. Man/woman, woman/woman, man/man, man/trans, woman/trans, man/woman/trans/man/man/woman. Personally, I reserve "disgust" for pornographic depictons of rape. I may find particular "players" in a sex combo "disgusting" (Ron Jeremy), but the expression of the sex doesn't disgust me.

Wonderfully put. I am new to this forum & that sums up my feelings better than I could haved wrote.:)

[gordo]

You're definately not gay.

You're definitely not straight either :D You have to be at least 30% on hetero----gay scale to love cocks. All the shemale lovers that think they're absolutely totally 100% not gay make me laugh.

[fvillon1]

I don't know if you're gay or not, but I don't consider myself to be gay and I love shemales. I would never fuck a man and I don't get turned on by them at all, in fact the thought of messing with a guy is disgusting to me.

[rocky_razors]

I love shemales, but iam not gay
i would never allow my arse to be penetrated that shit would scar me for life
but boy would i fuck the shit out of a shemale allanah starr/gia darling would be my dream

its mad i can bust a load watchin a tranny flick then go and watch a hetero porn flick and bust just as hard

.shemalesgetfucked.com----the shit!!!

[Dutch_88]

I like shemales... and girls... but not guys.
Would you consider me gay? Or heterosexual?
Or what? Part-sexual? :P

[t0st]

I like shemales... and girls... but not guys.
Would you consider me gay? Or heterosexual?
Or what? Part-sexual? :P

i also like shemales and girls but not guys.I have never had a cock up my ass,although i've been with a shemale only twice.

i consider myself strait,shemale lover even though i don't like putting labels on any one

[tgirllovinguy]

This is an interesting thread, and the original question ALWAYS comes up in tgirl forums. It's all to do with how you see yourself, not whether you're "gay" or not. (Also, the definition of "gay" becomes so personal in discussions like this that it comes to a point where it doesn't even matter). Some people will say, there's a cock attached to that person, so it's male regardless of any other physical, emotional, or mental characteristics of said person. Others will say, well yes, there's a cock, but if you didn't see it you'd never know it was there because the rest is so feminine. Others, like myself, will say, my god she's so feminine but has a hard cock...that's just beautiful!

For myself, I answer this question like this: I am not at all attracted to other men, and I have never been with a tgirl, but I do consider myself to have bisexual leanings because if I were lucky enough to get to be with a tgirl I would definitely want to suck her cock and have her fuck me in the ass. (And I have never even so much fingered my own ass so I realize I'd have to "warm up" first!) :lol: But when I watch tgirl porn I love how it looks when the girls are on "top." And the fact that they are so beautiful, I'd really get off myself knowing I was getting them off. (If that makes sense). I guess, as a tgirl admirer from afar, I tend to put tgirls on a pedestal, but that's part of the fantasy for me. I'd treat her like nothing but the lady she is, while hoping she'd get turned on enough to give me a good "seeing to." :eek: All this to reiterate my original point, such labels should only matter to you, and you are the one who needs to come to terms with your own psyche...sexual and otherwise. If we all lived our lives worrying about what others thought of us we'd be miserable indeed. Cheers. (And hopefully this is halfway readable!) :p

[trannycrazy]

Hi Everyone, I was wondering if anyone ever feels guilty about what we like and what turns us on. I know i do from time to time. I've been into ladyboys since i was a teenager, I'm now 28. Every once in a while i start to feel bad and guilty for liking T-Girls and i try to just look at regular porn, but most of the time it does nothing for me, I just have to come back to shemale porn. As i say it doesn't happen very often just now and then, Just wanted to know if anyone experiences the same kind of thing.

[maximilian]

No. I like what I like.

[jiiyze]

Yea. Sometimes. Im 24, really starting to come to terms with it, have to really. Was kind of a problem before. I make myself paranoid about it sometimes. Like "what if they knew" sort of thing when I interact with people. Really does my head in sometimes, like I get all nervous and stuff. Doesn't add to my confidence put it that way..

[trekkie]

I never feel guilty liking a hot girl with a nice cock.

[peneloppe]

I love shemales, but I'm not gay. As a matter of fact I'm not sure I can explain why they excite me so. S.Freud may have spoken and written about it. If not...:censored:

But if I'm not gay, why di I love girls with cock?

Same question concerning the pleasure I get when I wear womens clothes...:confused:

[الدكتور العراقي]

no i don't feel guilty .... i can't find a reason

[guest]

recently,not really.. but yes very rarely i do feel guilt. and not because i am ashamed of liking these beutiful people, but because i think of my family. my dad is very macho, and i dont know what he'd do if he knew about my interest in ladyboys..

[Ogryn1313]

I used to but have come to accept how I feel. The guilt feelings were stemming from society imposing its values on me. But we are are own people and we shouldn't feel guilty for a thing such as who we are attracted to.

[mrtrebus]

I do. Im new to the whole shemale thing, it just turns me on but im afraid of what my family & frends would say.


This is an interesting thread, and the original question ALWAYS comes up in tgirl forums. It's all to do with how you see yourself, not whether you're "gay" or not. (Also, the definition of "gay" becomes so personal in discussions like this that it comes to a point where it doesn't even matter). Some people will say, there's a cock attached to that person, so it's male regardless of any other physical, emotional, or mental characteristics of said person. Others will say, well yes, there's a cock, but if you didn't see it you'd never know it was there because the rest is so feminine. Others, like myself, will say, my god she's so feminine but has a hard cock...that's just beautiful!

For myself, I answer this question like this: I am not at all attracted to other men, and I have never been with a tgirl, but I do consider myself to have bisexual leanings because if I were lucky enough to get to be with a tgirl I would definitely want to suck her cock and have her fuck me in the ass. (And I have never even so much fingered my own ass so I realize I'd have to "warm up" first!) :lol: But when I watch tgirl porn I love how it looks when the girls are on "top." And the fact that they are so beautiful, I'd really get off myself knowing I was getting them off. (If that makes sense). I guess, as a tgirl admirer from afar, I tend to put tgirls on a pedestal, but that's part of the fantasy for me. I'd treat her like nothing but the lady she is, while hoping she'd get turned on enough to give me a good "seeing to." :eek: All this to reiterate my original point, such labels should only matter to you, and you are the one who needs to come to terms with your own psyche...sexual and otherwise. If we all lived our lives worrying about what others thought of us we'd be miserable indeed. Cheers. (And hopefully this is halfway readable!) :p

well put, im a confused guy that has just got into shemales.

[trannycrazy]

Most people on this forum are not gay, we are attracted to the feminine features of beautiful women with a little something extra, if you were attracted to hairy arse men then you'd be gay, But there's no way i would suck a mans cock, and that probably goes for most people here, So just enjoy liking shemales, enjoy their beauty, and stop worrying that you're gay.

[eireannach]

No. I have never had the opportunity to be with one yet though. I live in a place where there are only a couple and they have lines of suitors lined up so ya. Someday though.

[just102]

nope

I just want to fulfill my fantasy and actually be with one!

[zman]

I dont feel guilty. But, the big problem for me right nowis this. I'm into Genetic girls and transexuals. I've never been with a transexual before, and I really want to. However, the girl I'm dating is amazing, but not so amazing as to just let me have sex with someone elde. We've been together for 4 years now, and I'm feel pretty confident I want to marry her. But, the thing that keeps holding me back is that if I do, I'll prolly never get to fulfill my fantasy...

[2WayStreet]

I have no such problems, as I feel just as comfortable with a real girl or a LB. It is just a matter of getting used to it and prepare yourself for the role ahead.

[trannycrazy]

There's no way ever i would go with a guy, As i'm sure most people here wouldn't, I am not even remotely attracted to men. Ladyboys are not men, they are beautiful girls with a little something extra, They just drive me absoluteley crazy, so much so that i have little interest in gg's now, although i wouldn't say no to hot gg.

[Ayo4Yayo]

I too prefer shemales and femboys, but I would gladly go at it with a cute guy. However GGs are a turn off for me.

does it turn you on to look up and see a guy getting turned on a blowing his load because of you?

[practicename]

:turnoff: still am waisting my time with gg's. But I'd love to fuck/be fucked by a cute guy, ideally would fuck a shemale, but since none in my area, I'll go with a sexy man - hopefully someday soon:turnon:

[jimudon]

does it turn you on to look up and see a guy getting turned on a blowing his load because of you?

Yes, I do.

[Ayo4Yayo]

Yes, I do.

hmmm i bet your one hell of a cock sucker!

:turnon:

[shemaleslave]

I do feel some shame, But in a way i get off on it.

[Dells]

Honestly, when I first starting viewing them I did feel a little weird/uneasy/conflicted about how I felt. Overtime though + reading and interacting in a forum like this, that all went away. I now embrace and welcome my love of TGirls with open arms. In retrospect I wish I discovered it earlier. I missed out on so much pleasure.

[ottawan37]

I admit when I was first 'exposed' to ladyboys I was kind of conflicted by my attraction to them. Since then I have been friends with several tgirls and have had a couple of brief relationships. I have to say now that tgirls are my sexual preference. I still like women, but not as much.
I don't feel any guilt anymore. I realize that I just didn't know before, and we're often afraid of what we don't know.

[funky57]

I do. Im new to the whole shemale thing, it just turns me on but im afraid of what my family & frends would say

same here I am also new but hey you have to otherwise what is life all about

[Sparky]

:turnon:Welllll for me!!

I wish I had as much guilt and shame as I used to because that feeling of having to wait for my parents to sleep and somehow secretly watch and wack off to this great new world of pornography I had discovered with no lock on my bedroom door and a huge family!!!!!......really, really turned me on!

Now before the grand realm of the shemale, I had lesbians which I felt no guilt at all for the whole world to know how drained I would get watching them...oh this began when i was 9 and first found out about my new best friend at the time, the internet!!

Maybe I felt a little shameful after awhile cuz all I could think of was lesbians....then I for some reason prayed to stop thinking of them.....and thats when my prayers were answered...but tragically for my soul, it was a twisted and grotesque revelation (:turnon::turnon::turnon::turnon::turnon:).....:dr ool:

Since then, 2 girl friends...and no ts experience...and Im currently engaged...soooo sadly, all I got now is a few good websites when she aint looking.....buttttt, :D that wonderful feeling of shame may finally return when we move in together :respect:


Sometimes I feel guilty when I go to sleep with a boner...and not do anything about it......just shameful....but sometimessss....I still get wet dreamz so its coool :cool:

[Molag Bal]

I don't feel guilty personally but still I don't go around telling people I like t-girls. There's nothing to be gained by it, and a lot of hell to receive for it.

[Talvenada]

If you lived for everyone else, you'd have no life.

The fantasy to reality can lead to another guilt issue, like am I gay?

It can lead to another road, depending on who and what.

[cockluva]

I would say that probably nearly everyone here is 100% hetrosexual, We just prefer our chicks to have dicks.:respect:

[maximilian]

I would say that probably nearly everyone here is 100% hetrosexual, We just prefer our chicks to have dicks.:respect:

I wouldn't say prefer in my case. I love pussy, but if she happens to have a dick, I wouldn't have a problem with it. No way I would ever do anything with a man.

[pickseed]

like most, i assume, i tend to think of shemales as women, and treat them as such..
the thought of being with a man is totally unattractive to me
i am fairly certain, however, that most shemales are indeed gay (please correct me if i am wrong)

[armed_rober]

wow interesting results. i like to look at mens cocks as well as shemales i like shemales more but some dudes cocks are just so hot. there are very few men that i am attracted too. mostly just their dicks. but i do have fantasys about men having sex with me. i dont think i would ever persue it. but if i was ever persued i would do it for sure.

[perfect7]

I wouldn't say prefer in my case. I love pussy, but if she happens to have a dick, I wouldn't have a problem with it. No way I would ever do anything with a man.

im with you maximillian. I LOVE pussy. But if she has a huge cock, I'll take that too. gay male sex is a major turn OFF for me.

[Hankstar3]

And I'm of the same opinion as many here...Personally I look at T-girls as females with male genitaila, and even some, so called Femboys as a lot of them are really are T-girls in their early stages. That's my take on this question and how I'll always respond to it.

[tslust]

wow interesting results. i like to look at mens cocks as well as shemales i like shemales more but some dudes cocks are just so hot. there are very few men that i am attracted too. mostly just their dicks. but i do have fantasys about men having sex with me. i dont think i would ever persue it. but if i was ever persued i would do it for sure.

Give it a try. You'll like it, I guarantee.:coupling::coupling:

[fuckshemaleass]

for me ,l think ,ladyboy is sex monster

i want fuck shemale ,but i think iam not a gay

[SweetCharmer]

to help some people thinking of having sex with a shemale is that wonderful space between straight or gay when its neither:lol:

[ladylover]

I'm not gay. I had one gay experience while drunk with a friend. I thought, what the hell!? I hated it. I felt as though I needed to take a shower for days after the experience. My friend has asked me to "participate" with him several times since then, but I cannot and will not ever do that again. Even if I'm drunk, lol!

That being said, I did not know until recently that I am REALLY attracted to shemales. My favorite cousin had a sex change operation not too long ago. She (used to be he I guess) likes girls. This really confused me, but now I understand that is the way she feels. She was born a girl, but just had male genitals. She likes girls and that is what makes her happy. She used to be suicidal, but now all of those feelings are gone (since she had the operation). So, to me, she did the right thing by having a sex change.

After hearing this, I looked up shemales both pre op and post op. I was trying to understand why my best friend and closest family relative decided to do such a drastic change. While "investigating", I noticed that I am sooooooo attracted to shemales. At first, I kind of laughed and thought....."NO! They look just like girls! Therefore, I'm not gay and I don't like chicks that used to be dudes!"............

Right now, I'm in a wonderful relationship with a female. She's beautiful and everything that I've ever wanted. BUT, if I knew this before I got together with her, I would've pursued a relationship with either a female or shemale (which to me are females, but I have to be clear about things). My options would've been more open. I'm happy with who I am with though.

Now, when I look at porn, I like to look at females. Guys don't do it for me. BUT, almost every time that I look at porn, I will always check out shemales. There is something that makes my brain buzz while looking at shemales because I think they're beautiful (not all though! we like what we like).

I'll probably never experience sex with a shemale, because I want to spend the rest of my life with the girl that I am with and be monogamous. I'm happy with that. No regrets. BUT, if something happens to our relationship, you bet your ass that I would date a shemale and pursue a life together. But I wouldn't only pursue a shemale. I like girls. Some of them just so happen to have a dick! I'm an equal opportunity kind of guy.......


Sorry for the long post...but I'm glad to get this off my chest. I'm relieved that there are others out there that feel the same way. I hope you guys and gals accept me, and if I say something wrong...I'm sorry. I'm just trying to figure all of this out and accept myself for being...ME!

[racquel]

I see a lot of guys around here worrying about being gay. First, I think it's silly because why would you care if you were? Second, I think it's silly because I have tons of friends who are gay, and I'm not really attracted to them, and most of them aren't that attracted to me. So being attracted to a tgirl definitely doesn't make you gay. In the past couple weeks, the guys who have tried to pick me up have been a regular looking young black guy, a big white guy who looked like he should be in the UFC, a couple average middle-aged guys, a kinda emo guy, some stoner with a camo hat and a beard, a really well-dressed black guy in his 40s, and a gray-haired psychology professor. These guys all seemed straight. There's only been one gay acting guy hitting on me the past 3 times I went out, and he was just drunk and horny.

But the thing is, the clubs I go to would generally be considered gay clubs, and probably half the people there are gay, but most of the people who are interested in me seem straight. And those are the people I'm attracted to, too, even though I'm not really hooking up with them.

So I don't know if you want to consider yourself gay or not, but don't worry that you're going to turn into some prissy queen just because you like tgirls. That's not the way it works.

I really like the videos on tsseduction. I was watching this newer one with Yasmin Lee and a guy named Tristan. I think Yasmin is really cute and it's really cool seeing a girl-next-door instead of a big porn star, so I totally thought I'd be into the video. But this Tristan guy is totally gay acting. I don't know what it is. He doesn't have some super gay lisp. But the guy acts gay. And watching a girl with a gay guy is totally weird. I wanna watch tgirls with straight guys.

I was just watching that video and it made me think of all this so I just thought I'd give my opinion on it if anybody cares.

[franalexes]

Yes, of course someone cares. :)
We care that we can express our thoughts in a safe environment.
Bionca tries as I sometimes try to educate those non-transitioned about why we transition. Sometimes I think transitioning itself is easier. It is hard to tell the difference bewteen those that hit on me for the right reasons, from those that hit on me for the wrong reason. I don't think I have ever been hit on by a gay guy. I have been approached by some very hot looking lesbiens.
So guys, lighten up. You are not gay. Some of you like us because we look like the girls we are. That's o-kay. ( you are not gay.) Some like us because of our difference. You are curious. That's o-kay. ( You are not gay.) Some like us because they think because of our difference we are some wild sex machine of the century. ( personally I find quite the opposite is true.) Those guys are sex obsessed. Not a healthy outlook on sexual relations and not someone I want to meet my parents either. These peopls may not be physical freaks but they are mental freaks.
I am not a freak. I'm a nice person. Those that can discover that in me is the type I want to meet.

Racquel, one sister to another. :kiss:

[Talvenada]

From a so-called straight guy!!

If you feel family, friends and co-workers would react to your t-girl interest in an unpleasant way, keep your interest to yourself.

If you meet a t-girl you're attracted to, date her and more. Me: If I got serious w/ a t-girl, I would be open about our relationship, regardless of what others thought. But that's me.

You can go as far as you want, but you're not gay. If you're turned on to bio-women and trans-women, you are the degree of bi that you go.

Whether you go all the way w/ an attractive t-girl--some of whom are forum members--you've got to accept who you are, or live w/ doubt, guilt and regret. Regret if you turn down a chance for love or pleasure or both.

Plus, like Rocky who wants straight guys, you can want to date passable t-girls, like Rocky.

[racquel]

It is hard to tell the difference bewteen those that hit on me for the right reasons, from those that hit on me for the wrong reason.

Yeah. I get hit on a lot, but most of them make it very obvious very quickly that they aren't really interested in anything but sex. A lot of them are married and wouldn't want to be seen in public (or probably even in daylight) with me. I feel bad that I've become so cynical about it, because there have been a few really nice guys who have tried to talk to me lately and I couldn't even take them seriously.



Some like us because they think because of our difference we are some wild sex machine of the century. ( personally I find quite the opposite is true.)

Speak for yourself! I'm definitely the wild sex machine of the century! Although it's been about a century since I had sex ... so maybe my crown has been revoked.

[franalexes]

:respect:I had it when it counted.;)

[new believer]

In response to Racquel postings, Face it some 'straight' men,married or otherwise, are victims of their upbringing. To say a man would not be seen in daylight with a shemale, they have to alter their ways of thinking about all people in general.
My viewpoints have definitely changed. Not that I would have ever condemmed anyones lifestyle, but I would be delighted to have a dinner or drink with in public with a shemale as a friend or aquaintance. As a possible affair? Sorry, but it's out of town. But not because of being with a shemale, it would be with any woman. Racquel, take heed to Frans words, she's got the world by the balls.

[randolph]

:respect:I had it when it counted.;)

These discussions about transitioning are very helpful. It is easy to view transsexuals (shemales) as simply hot sex objects to have quick sex with. Being reminded that you are lovely good nice people helps transcend the raw lust evoked by the images on this forum.:respect:
Don't get me wrong, I like raw lust but I would also like to know and understand real transexual women. I presume most of the shemales displayed on this site are prostitutes. That's OK, its a way of making a living, if she can put up with the morons that are nothing more than a cock with two legs.:frown:
hugs for all of you.:hug:

[twistedone]

I see a lot of guys around here worrying about being gay. First, I think it's silly because why would you care if you were? Second, I think it's silly because I have tons of friends who are gay, and I'm not really attracted to them, and most of them aren't that attracted to me. So being attracted to a tgirl definitely doesn't make you gay.

Bravo!! Well said. If I may add, if your worried about it, perhaps your not sexually secure.

[jimnaseum]

I think one point is that people who are not looking for trouble in their lives will shy away from the gay lifestyle, I'm not even sure there is a "heterosexual guys that like .....transsexuals lifestyle" (??!!) My point being that right or wrong, there definitely is a stigma surrounding non heterosexual activity. This can have the opposite effect and bring transsexuals closer together, too.

[bigforarse]

I am a rampant cock loving gay homosexual faggot straight guy!!:turnon:

[defiance]

now i am a closet gay.. mainly cause the industry i work in, it would be devastating for me to come out..
how ever.. if u think that viewing tranny images u gay. well technically it does.. even tho that ur looking it at a feminine form. there is still a cock attached to it. so u gotta ask urself .. are u attracted to the cock. .look at gay porn and just looked at the dudes cocks and see if it turns u on. if it does then u are gay. there is nothing wrong with being gay honestly.. there are problems with the person coming out of the closet tho depending on their circle of people. . but honesty just embrace it. enjoy it .. like someone said here. life is too short to be hung up on the pettiness of it all. just enjoy it. it makes u happy to view this material then i say go for it..

i think i may have gotten two or three forum posts on here mashed into one.
hehe .. enjoy people .. god damn it. . embrace the cock. and give it a kiss. it will kiss back..

[asefase1]

i often wonder what my friends would think if the new about my new preference. i got a lot of flack from revealing i have a foot fetish, and i had to pretend and ignore when my friend went on the internet using my computer and saw a recent search request for latina shemales. it never came up but i'm certain he saw it because we didn't hang out for a couple of weeks after that happened. but i know that in liking transexuals, the only difference is one thing. everybody likes having sex and shouldn't be judged in the way they like to have it

[TXshelover]

guys who are true lovers of tgirls i dont believe question wether they are gay or not because they understand that they are not wanting to be with a guy. and why should they question it cuz a tgirl is still a girl ......

[jimnaseum]

Does this picture of Jeff Stryker make you feel funny inside?

[DL_NL]

No, unless you count jealous.

More -mostly US- prehistoric sexual morale and the entirely wrong idea that in sexuality it's either black or white. Wake up, there are lots of greys in between.

[SluttyShemaleAnna]

Does this picture of Jeff Stryker make you feel funny inside?



The first thought to enter my head on seeing that was 'Liquify filter?' (fellow 'shopers will know what I'm on about.. )

[racquel]

The first thought to enter my head on seeing that was 'Liquify filter?' (fellow 'shopers will know what I'm on about.. )

Jeff Stryker's cock looked huge long before porn went digital. He's like John Holmes -- his cock is about 10" long semi-erect, but he can't quite get it all the way hard. Now that I think about it, Nefertiti has about the biggest cock I've seen that actually gets really hard.

I don't think Photoshop had the liquify filter till CS2 in 2005, and that picture's been floating around the net a lot longer than that.

[seraret]

i definetaly do not like gay porn, even do not like hardcore because it includes men.

i always watch girl only and ladyboy movies.

also, not all shemale material excites me. only ladyboys and T-girl Mandy :D.

[kilgoretrout]

I did not realize this site existed. I have been with 4 shemales and really enjoyed it. It was all oral.

It is odd, I do not think I could do the same with a regular male, though I know technically it is the same. While I love being around shemales, I find gay males bothersome.

So I am a bit confused. While I love giving oral to a shemale, I am not interested in other males at all. I am still interested in females too.

It has caused some conflict for me.

I am not really sure what I am asking here as much as just putting forward a statement.

Thanks

[jared]

no. i'm straight

[kilgoretrout]

Well I am glad to know it is not just me who is conflicted, though a number of you do not appear conflicted but very firm in your beliefs.

I cannot bear mtm porn, but a dude and a shemale turns me on. Why?

[Bionca]

This gets asked lots. So much so I have 2 brief answers...

1) Does it matter if it makes you gay? If so, why?

2) It boils down to how you view Trans*women. Are they women who have/had a penis, or are they men with tits?

[kilgoretrout]

Bionca
I have run into transvestites in New Orleans. They do not appeal to me. I think I am attracted to the very feminine shemales.

I have no interest in dating a guy. But I am fascinated by ts girls. I have had the fortune to have three encounters - one with two. I immensely enjoyed it.

I have had a fear of going back to it. I don't know why. As I said, I did not have anything but the most positive of experiences.

And while I could never imagine myself unzipping a guys pants and taking him, there is something exciting about that surprise in the panties of a shemale lover.

But I am confused by it.

[TSBBG]

No, i am straight and i like to have sex with shemales, but not with men


I feel the same.

[ashenhurst]

i love t-girls but have never been with one yet
i think i will have to see an escort t-girl this year tofulfill my fantasy
i don't think it is gay as i don't fancy men i just like the idea of playing with cock on a girl that's all

[Amy]

To be gay you need an openly recognisable sexual attraction to male characteristics. And I mean the whole nine yards. A gay man won't be attracted to mtf transexuals because of the female characteristics they openly display. A BISEXUAL man may do, because he finds female and male characteristics sexually attractive.
Whether you consider yourself straight or bisexual also can tie in to how much respect you show for trans women as well. If you think of them as women, respecting their sense of gender identity, then you think of yourself as straight. if you think of them as something in-between, then you most likely at least partly see yourself as bisexual, whereas if you see them as men, well, I don't think anyone fits that definition of both being attracted to them and seeing them as men.

[kilgoretrout]

I think I fall into the camp that sees them as mostly females, but a bit different on at least one characteristic.

[jigenbakuda]

Yea I'm new to this too, I ask myself the same questions. But I'm sure of 1 thing, I'm attracted to feminine characteristics, so I'm not gay... I have never been with a transexual, but I like watching the porn... Well seeing as I would consider transexuals chicks with dicks, and not men, I guess I'm straight.

So Amy has helped me discover myself a bit more....

[orion]

Very well put Amy ...

IMHO .. your explanation should be posted as a "sticky" .. 'cos as sure as God made little green apples this old "chestnut" will crop up time & again .. :respect:

[horizontal]

i am not confused
i am what i am and what i am is me
i dont need a label
i like what i like and he she it doesnt need a label
you dont have to climb into any particular box and i recommend nobody climbs into any box at all
do what you want to who you want if they want it too

and live your one short life to the max

[i_love_shemales]

I did not realize this site existed. I have been with 4 shemales and really enjoyed it. It was all oral.

It is odd, I do not think I could do the same with a regular male, though I know technically it is the same. While I love being around shemales, I find gay males bothersome.

So I am a bit confused. While I love giving oral to a shemale, I am not interested in other males at all. I am still interested in females too.

It has caused some conflict for me.

I am not really sure what I am asking here as much as just putting forward a statement.

Thanks

I'm bi-sexual and I adore sucking cock so much and drinking cum but most of all and this might sound silly, one day I want to settle down with a woman. No, I won't get any cock behind her back because I'd never betray whoever I'm with. For some odd reason, when I'm in a relationship, I lose interest with porn because I feel as if that's another way of betrayl unless I know she likes porn. This has happened to me before, one relationship, I wasn't sure if she liked porn and I was afraid to ask and I never went near the stuff until after we broke up. That is why I know I'll stay away from cocks while I'm in a relationship - and other pussies as well.

Sorry to go off topic for a bit but I thought you might be interested in another way how the mind works for some people in a sexual manner.

[randolph]

It seems to me, that to be gay, you need to be attracted to someone that looks like yourself. Men attracted to men, women attracted to women. If a strait man is attracted to a transexual, its because he perseves her as a women. I doubt that gay men are attracted to transexuals, they want a man.
The fact that transexuals may/not have a penis seems secondary to the perception . This is similar to what Amy said.

[triumph65]

I just don't get this "Am I gay" feeling. Personally I try not to live my life as a label. I'm attracted to women and transsexuals and yet I don't see myself as gay, straight or bi, I just like who I like.

Just think how much better the world would be if we cut out all the bullshit.

[darkstargemini]

> i get that a lot he likes girls with dicks he must be gay i,m not into men i enjoy the company of women but i like shemales they say thats sick i guess it,s the way u look at it what can u do .:respect:

[McLuvinladyboys]

yeah i an gonna go with hank on this one, i am gonna have to say we are all a little on the bisexual side. lets face it what seperates the ladyboys we love from the biological girls we also like. its simple, the cock
so we have a fascination for cock. thats what it is, we all wish that our daintly girls had throbing members.
i wonder how many of you guys would prefer that your shemals had a pussy too, sort of like the japanese futanari girls? that would be ideal for me, the best of everything, a cock to suck on and an ass AND pussy to fuck. sounds great to me.
i think though that many of us either are not ever going to be interested in men, or just wont admit it. thats part of this as well.
i could fuck a femme boy, sure, as long as i dont meet him in mans clothes all unshaven and man like. its just like fucking a small titted ladyboy.
as long as i can pretend there is some feminintiy there i think i am happy.
like i said i wont be going to the local gay bar and picking up a leather man anytime soon

[phazon]

yea i agree there i am in no way intersted in guys what so ever i think i could pleasure a shemale unless they where so freaking hot and there is some of those out there

[franalexes]

. its simple, the cock
so we have a fascination for cock. thats what it is, we all wish that our daintly girls had throbing members.


I'm not going to explain it to you. Bionca and I have done that before on many a post. But you are so wrong. You like shemales, not for the "male" but for the "she".

[tim4lb]

I love all sorts of ladyboys. I primarily like Asians - they tend to be more petite and feminine in my opinion. I even find "femboys" attractive, but I have absolutely no interest in a man. My first attraction is definitely a cute, girlish face. Body or especially facial hair, overly large frames, and deep voices are turn-offs for me. Despite all of this, I much prefer a very well-endowed ladyboy.

[Skeggjold]

Shemales and gg's only. I have viewed gay porno and it didn't do anything for me. I do think however that there is a gay element in being attracted to penises. If we were all totally striaight we would not be attracted to anyone with a penis. A decidedly male face is not a turn on for me . A beautiful shemale with a large cock drives me crazy and all I can think of is to give her head. I have no such desire with a man.

Exactly what I think. I have wondered if looking at shemales makes me gay, but looking at guy on guy does absolutely nothing for me.

[McLuvinladyboys]

I'm not going to explain it to you. Bionca and I have done that before on many a post. But you are so wrong. You like shemales, not for the "male" but for the "she".

dunno bout that. look around and you will usually hear(see) the guys here talking about one certian aspect of the shemale. her cock. there must be a thousand threads on here about it.
if we were interested in the SHE we would be with bio girls. so while we are interested in the she, we are also interested in the male parts as well.
since you dont want to explain it, or shoot me a link to another post where you or bionca do explain it, i cant really give you anymore than this. i dont know what your arguement against cock interest would be(does that make sense)

we like the she shape, but we also like the he organ, like i said its pretty simple, we all want out women with cocks, other wise we would just go get bio girls

[javabox]

I'm not going to explain it to you. Bionca and I have done that before on many a post. But you are so wrong. You like shemales, not for the "male" but for the "she".

Doubt it. If the poster liked shemales not for the male, but for the she (meaning, just for the she), then he could simplify his life immensely by only focusing on cisgirls. There are so many more of them ... at last count, more than half the people on the planet fall into that category. A lot more options. But it doesn't seem to be the case that people who like shemales like them specifically for either the male or the she. They like them for the both-ness.

Of course, I could be wrong. Like the original poster, I'd welcome a link to a thread where your point of view is spelled out in more detail.

[randolph]

Doubt it. If the poster liked shemales not for the male, but for the she (meaning, just for the she), then he could simplify his life immensely by only focusing on cisgirls. There are so many more of them ... at last count, more than half the people on the planet fall into that category. A lot more options. But it doesn't seem to be the case that people who like shemales like them specifically for either the male or the she. They like them for the both-ness.

Of course, I could be wrong. Like the original poster, I'd welcome a link to a thread where your point of view is spelled out in more detail.

As males, we know how how well our cock can produce pleasure. We know how much we enjoy females and their beautiful bodies. We know how good it is to have our cock inserted in a female. We put all of these feelings together when we view a beautiful shemale displaying her lovely cock, our mind tells us that this girl has special sexual attributes well beyond a regular female. All of her is female and all of her is desirable, including her female
cock. Biologically the male penis is analogous to the female clitoris.:inlove::turnon::inlove:

[randolph]

A further comment.
Suppose a genetic female could get gene therapy on her genitalia that would transform her clitty into a functional penis. I suspect that we (men) would find it equally desirable as a transexual penis. Not only that, if she still had a pussey then she would be a hermaphrodite (futa. girl). How much fun would that be? :drool::p:coupling::turnon::inlove:;):lol:

[Bionca]

Yes, you all are the faggiest fags who ever fagged a fag... happy?? Oh wait.. you are trying to save some bit of heterosexuality so that when WE get shit on YOU can stay nice and comfortably wrapped in your hetero-ness.

Here is the deal from my perspective - does it matter if you are? If it does, why? You are aware that most people who know will think you are? As someone who grew up assumed to be gay, who was very openly attracted to men in a male context, the very last thing I want is to be some closet for some guy. Maybe that's my lot in life if as a trans*woman, but I hope it isn't.

[smc]

Here is the deal from my perspective - does it matter if you are?

Thanks, Bionca. I was just about to write something quite similar. As all of you ponder this question, consider what the world would be like if everyone could just live happily with whatever their attractions (so long as they aren't hurtful in the way child molestation is, for example), and everyone would be fine with the attractions of others. Labels of the sort being discussed in this thread are the type that keep us from ever getting past discrimination, as well as keep us from being able to embrace our true selves.

[javabox]

Here is the deal from my perspective - does it matter if you are?

Answering for myself? No. In my comment above, I was merely responding to a statement that Franalexes made ("You like shemales, not for the 'male' but for the 'she'"), and responding using the terms in which the statement was framed. That was not intended as a validation of those terms. The statement ("You like shemales, not for the 'male' but for the 'she'") seems as reductive, and as much an oversimplification, as if a het person were to take the opposite tack and say: "if you're attracted to a trans person, just accept that you're gay, and get on with life".

The point is that framing it as an either/or proposition is not going to work. The conventional categories themselves do not work. The premise and terms of the discussion itself lack validity.

Again though, I could be wrong, and I would be interested in reading the other posts to which Franalexes alluded.

[smc]

... framing it as an either/or proposition is not going to work. The conventional categories themselves do not work.

You are absolutely right: framing it as an either/or does not work. I would contend that it should not work; in fact, I don't want it to work, because it leads us right back to labeling, or -- as you put it -- "conventional categories."

No one could rationally deny that there is a point in labels and categorization: it serves to make easier the understanding that all of us seek. But it has such a horrid downside.

What joy there is in coming around to just being who you are without anyone else defining it.

[Bionca]

Well, the answer - either way denies some large portion of my life. If I say "yes" you are gay.. then my identity is a lie and I'm a guy with tits. If I say "no" and assure guys they are totally hetero, then I deny the fact I was perceived as a gay guy, harassed as a gay guy. It belittles an important and formative point in my life. It can also make it seem that I couldn't "cut it" as a gay guy and took the easy way of hetero living.

While asked of the men here, the answer affects me and gals like me - because we can't win. We can't win because no matter how much we all may want something, society will still call you and I "fags". Maybe I have a leg up, since I grew up with that one.

[javabox]

Seems like a lot of us are saying the same thing ... it isn't as simple as yes/no, either/or, etc.

I like the point smc is making ... that it's hard to get through life without using labels and categories ... the act of using language is one of labeling, to a large extent. But often the labels, as much as we try to apply them, fall down ... they just don't "stick". Eventually language and constructs may catch up with what is ... language does evolve. But I'm in agreement with those who aren't holding their breath, or waiting around for it to.

[Bionca]

Yes, mostly the general outcome of this question is "it doesn't matter" or that there isn't a neat tidy label to apply. But, it keeps coming up. There must be some reason why this so often asked. I think probably the answer to "why are you asking" may reveal quite a bit of information.