Does liking shemales make you gay? [Archive] - Page 2

randolph

02-01-2009, 05:55 PM

Doubt it. If the poster liked shemales not for the male, but for the she (meaning, just for the she), then he could simplify his life immensely by only focusing on cisgirls. There are so many more of them ... at last count, more than half the people on the planet fall into that category. A lot more options. But it doesn't seem to be the case that people who like shemales like them specifically for either the male or the she. They like them for the both-ness.

Of course, I could be wrong. Like the original poster, I'd welcome a link to a thread where your point of view is spelled out in more detail.

I can relate to this, it seems that is what transsexual is all about. I signed on to this site because I like looking at transsexuals and fantasizing about sex with them. It seems that trying to intellectualize this lust is going to be futile, for me anyway.

Dear Bionca:respect:
love yourself:hug:
eat lots of blueberries
wear sexy clothes;)
you will be fine :yes:

smc

02-01-2009, 07:04 PM

Bionca writes that there must be some reason why this so often asked. She continues, "I think probably the answer to 'why are you asking' may reveal quite a bit of information.

javabox adds: "The reason it's asked probably does have something to do with internalized homophobia ... but maybe also with a fear of ambiguity, with a lack of comfort with with what can't yet be named ..."

Here's an idea. I once saw a website that was geared toward men who wanted to be "sissified" and that had a big forum where they could get "assignments" from "mistresses" to help them along the way. How about an assignment for all of those who can admit to a fear of ambiguity or who are uncomfortable with what can't yet be named or, most important, who can admit to themselves that they are homophobic of themselves?

Start with a friend you trust, and 'fess up. State unequivocally: "I am attracted to transgendered women [or men]."

Just do it, and don't take any shit for it.

To quote the lyrics from an old En Vogue song:

Free your mind, and the rest will follow ...

I am exactly where my signature line states, and I'll be telling someone tomorrow.

randolph

02-01-2009, 07:24 PM

When I was young, I went camping with male friends. Sometimes, after a few beers, we would do a "circle jerk" contest to see who would cum first. We didn't go beyond that because we were not sexually attracted to each other. I had one mutual masturbation experience, again it didn't get me turned on to "boys". GIRLS were the primary interest. Girls are still my primary interest, it turns out that some of them have cocks. So be it! Everyone can choose the kind of person they like and the kind of sex they like. That's how our cousins the Bonobos do it and they have very few conflicts. :hug::coupling::yes:

uelen

02-03-2009, 08:52 AM

I'm not certainly gay, but I love tgirls.
Tgirls, for me, are women.
I love women, I love tgirls but I hate men, so I cannot be gay. It's logical! ;)

smc

02-03-2009, 09:41 AM

The more I think about this, the more I realize that my answer is simple:

Who cares!

I am just me. I like this or that or whatever. I'm attracted to this or that or whatever. Even though I recognize that labels make things easier for everyone, I just want to be a person who is the person I am. And I want everyone else to accept it or leave me alone.

danonymous

02-03-2009, 06:32 PM

Im the same, men are a HUGE turn off for me, they dont even slightly arouse me, but I love shemales and I love cocks on shemales, I think its only somewhat natural to find cocks alluring, after all, youve been playing with your own for a long time:)
Seriously though, Men no, Shemales, HELL YEAH!!!!!
Although I dont mind men who are feminine enough to dress in lingerie and look female.But its rare to find.

Lac79

02-03-2009, 07:48 PM

I pretty much think of ladyboys, femmeboys, shemales all as women, dudes just dont do anything for me. We are just a rare breed I guess lol. Fuck labels, I am who I am and do what I do.

GCharles

02-04-2009, 12:35 PM

The thing about being attracted to ladyboys is that I'm still attracted by the feminine form, there's just something kinky about having a cock i guess. Totally not interested in the male form. Being gay and liking TGirls are 2 different things.

McLuvinladyboys

02-04-2009, 09:25 PM

Well, the answer - either way denies some large portion of my life. If I say "yes" you are gay.. then my identity is a lie and I'm a guy with tits. If I say "no" and assure guys they are totally hetero, then I deny the fact I was perceived as a gay guy, harassed as a gay guy. It belittles an important and formative point in my life. It can also make it seem that I couldn't "cut it" as a gay guy and took the easy way of hetero living.

While asked of the men here, the answer affects me and gals like me - because we can't win. We can't win because no matter how much we all may want something, society will still call you and I "fags". Maybe I have a leg up, since I grew up with that one.

the answer doesnt have anything to do with you or the other girls, you know what you are, you made your choices and are very proud and happy about them(well you should be i suppose that is why you have to talk to a therapist before undergoing everything)
this isnt about what you think about us its about what WE think of us. you had your moment of personal "crisis" your moment of desicion and thats good, very good. now we are undergoing a similar moment of desicion. its not going to change if we like shemales or not, if liking them makes us gay or not, i suppose a lot of us want to know so we can label ourselves, like humans very much like to do. its important to you if you are seen as a girl with a cock or a man with tits. you said so yourself, you seem to desire the label that you put on yourself. you dont care if i see you as one or the other, at least you shouldnt.

fact is it makes us a little on the gay side, but who cares? is it really that important in the long run, arent there more important things to worry about

Kittyuk

02-06-2009, 03:53 AM

I hate this whole gay or straight thing, to me its just sex, doesn't matter if its with a guy, a girl or a shemale, its there for 1 thing and thats to have fun:coupling:

Lucy I can't agree with this statement more, you are so right. If I have a preference it would be for a sweet ladyboy but the most important thing is that ones partner should have a tender loving disposition no matter what gender.

Kitty

lacey_maxie

02-06-2009, 04:19 AM

I prefer shemales' huge cocks to gays' ones but a big cock is a big cock to me and I'm very often turned on by gays with big cocks as well:turnon::coupling:

luvmedo

02-11-2009, 03:06 PM

IF YOU LOVE TOO SUCK ON SHEMALES ARE YOU GAY, OR JUST KINKY. FROM A NON GAY PERSON POINT OF VIEW:frown::innocent::turnon: ANY INSIGHTS TOO THIS ONE :innocent::coupling:

Arato

02-11-2009, 08:27 PM

Going to be a lot of no's I think.

dirty30

02-12-2009, 03:39 AM

I just luv pretty cock,not manly cock..:rolleyes:

triumph65

02-12-2009, 10:31 AM

Voted yes.

Although, i hate the idea of having to live under a label. :frown:

Having said that, if you enjoy the idea of sucking cock, even on the most beautiful ts, it surely has to be considered the tiniest bit gay!! :D

Personally i don't give a fuck. I love beautiful sexy women and i love beautiful sexy tgirls. The idea of sucking and fucking a tgirl turns me on but gay/straight men don't. I don't see myself as 100% gay nor 100% straight. I am what i am and i like what i like.

slipper

02-12-2009, 11:44 PM

Hell no, but who cares. Like what ya like and go on! :yes:

raojai70

02-13-2009, 06:36 PM

IMHO you are "gay" if you feel yourself to be gay and "straight" if you feel yourself to be straight. Who you fuck/get fucked by doesn't necessarily correlate.

tim4lb

02-13-2009, 09:16 PM

I am not particularly concerned with labels, but I simply don't consider myself or anyone else in the same situation gay. If others do, fine. I am not going to argue. I see a guy ... nothing! Never had any attraction. Masculine features, body hair, etc. just not a turn-on at all. Why do I like a "lady" with a cock? Who knows? Maybe I'm bi-sexual if there are 3 sexes. I just know what I like;)

robbo971

02-14-2009, 10:56 PM

I don't believe that you are either 100% gay or 100% straight, I don't think you can place people's sexuality into categories like that. Sexuality more likely works on a sliding scale, with straight on one side, gay on the other and bisexual in the middle, and an individual's sexuality falls somewhere between these categories. For example, if I was to look at my sexuality within this context I would place myself on the straight side of bisexual as my general attraction is towards women but I have had sexual experiences with men aswell.

In relation to the question, I believe that to a greater or lesser degree an attraction to shemales can only be considered bisexual, whether its a subconcious desire or you are in denial about your sexuality there is no way you can consider yourself completely straight, one of the fundamental attractions of the shemale form is the fact that they have a cock and, like it or not lusting after cock is not a typically hetrosexual pattern of behaviour.

netdave99y

02-16-2009, 01:29 AM

I've never met a guy who I have even had a moments thought about sucking his cock. I love the female form, pussy (in my mouth or on my cock ), I love tgirls, shemales and pretty tv's and I love to suck their cocks and have my cock sucked by them. However, I also have a thing about being force feminised by men and/or women and during these fantasies I am forced and trained to love sucking huge black cocks especially. During these fantasies of the mind I am normally dressed as a sissy/slut and my cock is rock hard, as it is in my hand as I read or think through these scenarios.

AM I GAY?

TXguy4ever

02-16-2009, 01:44 AM

I know I am not gay but I love watching shemale porn, just like I watch other porn too, to me porn is porn, except for gay porn that is...

The Darkman

02-16-2009, 07:35 AM

Hell no. And I wouldn't care a shit if I was classed as Gay or not

AssMassage

02-20-2009, 04:34 AM

My opinion... I'm not gay but not in sure... haha

I don't like male. Don't like to watching gay porn, and I never will be whit male (gay) on my bed - it is for sure.

But in another side I like shemales, like watching shemale and MMF bi-sex porn. Yes, I will allow T-Girl to fuck me, want to fuck T-Girls but will never do it just whit male.

I also like to play myself whit different anal toys and do it may be 10 times in a month watching shemale porn. But will never allow gay dick to penetrate my ass.

And another one :drool:
I have a girlfriend, we live together and she give me anything in our sexual life. In spite of all I like shemales (it's my secret of course) and when I have a chance fuck them or be fucked if I'm in a spirits of it.

So, am I gay? No, I mean no :rolleyes::innocent:

aussiepride

02-20-2009, 11:12 PM

i find this thread amusing. how can the vast majority of respondents vote No, its not gay? a cock is a cock, wanting to suck one, have one put in ya bum, or just jerking off to the site of an attractive girl that also has one is to a large degree homosexual behaviour. the penis is the one phallic identifying symbol of males... dont kid yourselves.. because the shemales think you are gay anyway.

I think you would get a better indication to this question if you asked how many people have most of their family or real life friends fully aware that they are attracted to shemales...?

and yes i know it is an unfortunate label, albeit due to the unique circumstances, but labels and words are the things we live by.

jmape

02-21-2009, 08:46 AM

Hell no, but who cares. Like what ya like and go on! :yes:

Slipper made it so clear: you suck a cock if you like it no matter if you are a gay or not...(?) Or if it really so clear? just keep on wonderin', Tim of Finland :cool:

shooting_shark

02-21-2009, 10:54 AM

The whole idea of classifying people as "heterosexual" and "homosexual" is both relatively new and outdated - a relic of 19th century thought. Its unfortunate that both prejudice and "gay identity" perpetuate it. There has always been a much more flexible view of sexuality, throughout history and in many cultures... this whole phenomenon of forcing labels on people is a byproduct of current-day identity politics, and unfortunately often comes from both sides of the equation.

darkstargemini

02-22-2009, 05:58 AM

> from what i have red or understand most shemales don,t date gay men that seems to be what i understand maybe i,m wrong.:respect:

hungsum

02-23-2009, 09:35 AM

Gay? I don't think so because I am not attracted to men.
A little strange? maybe because I'm fascinated by cock!

jebayo1

02-24-2009, 09:51 AM

I think it depends on the individual. I love watching Men having sex with trans. But do not particularly care for trans having sex with men. Also not into male on male, and I love women. I guess I'm a strange breed

lacey_maxie

02-24-2009, 11:58 AM

Personally, I don't care if someone called me a gay just because I love to admire shemales' cocks.As a matter of fact,apart from the websites with shemales I also visit the websites with gays to admire their big cocks.No matter if a cock belongs to a shemale or a man ,it always makes my juices run....:turnon:

randolph

02-24-2009, 09:20 PM

Question: Are we gay when attracted to shemales?
The term "gay" typically refers to sexual orientation of males, i.e. homosexual. If a male is "gay" he is sexually attracted to males. This can be considered a two step process. First; there is attraction to physical appearance (maleness). Second; there is attraction to the male genitalia. This then can result in sexual stimulation of the male genitals (homosexuality).
OK, if a male is attracted to the appearance of a shemale because she looks female and then desires to sexually stimulate her male genitalia, is he "gay"?
The genitalia and their function are exactly the same for both male and shemale in all respects, scrotum, testis, penis, erection and ejaculation. The only difference is the appearance of the person possessing the male genitalia. Now "gayness" refers to sexual attraction to the genitalia (male). As far as "gayness' is concerned the appearance of a person should have nothing to do with desire for the genitalia. Consequently, if one desires sexually the genitalia of a shemale, since she possesses male genitalia, that person by definition is "gay". There is the option that a person may sexually desire both male and female genitalia, in that case, the person could be considered bisexual.
The confusion arises when at step one, the male is attracted to the feminine attributes of the shemale. Then at step two, he is attracted to her male attributes. Most males will deny that they are "gay" when attracted to and sexually stimulating a shemale, even though the sexual activity is essentially the same as male to male homosexual activity. The only difference is the initial attractiveness of the person, male or shemale.
Males go to Thailand to have sex with "ladyboys" and they do not consider this homosexual activity. The ladyboys are obviously boys, often they are flat chested and have very boyish bodies and some have huge cocks (Mint). Yet, many supposedly heterosexual men indulge in sex with ladyboys (boys).
Even though most of the males on this forum deny they are gay, they are nevertheless thinking about or participating in gay activity. There is the argument that the shemale "looks" female therefore her genitalia are female. Obviously, this argument is not biologically sound. The other argument is that if the shemale "believes" she is female, then her genitalia become "female", again the facts are, by definition, male genitalia consist of scrotum, testis and penis.
The reason I have tried to logically analyze the issue is because most males are extremely sensitive about "gayness". They do not want to be considered gay or be associated with gays. Yet, they participate in gay activity when they can deny that what they are doing is gay activity. The male mind is very good at hypocrisy when it allows him to do what he desires especially (sex). OK, considering oneself bisexual does not get one off the hook either. If one desires female genitalia and also male genitalia, the latter is still gay activity.
After working through this thought process, I recognize that since I desire male genitalia attached to shemales, I have gay tendencies. So what does that mean? It means I like genitalia, male and/or female. It does not mean that everyone I see who possesses male or female genitalia will be attractive to me, however.;)

twfs21

02-25-2009, 07:29 PM

a gay friend of mine said told me he has no attraction to shemales. he says gay men want men. not shemales.

toomuchcoffeeman

02-25-2009, 09:32 PM

I'm not attracted to men but if I'd suck on a shemale, that would make me less hesitant to suck on a guy if he shoved his cock in front of me during a 3way.

I guess if it happens, it happens but I wouldn't go looking for a guy to be alone with.

Makes me kinda bi I guess :innocent:

hankhavelock

05-22-2009, 03:39 PM

I see a lot of guys around here worrying about being gay. First, I think it's silly because why would you care if you were? Second, I think it's silly because I have tons of friends who are gay, and I'm not really attracted to them, and most of them aren't that attracted to me. So being attracted to a tgirl definitely doesn't make you gay. In the past couple weeks, the guys who have tried to pick me up have been a regular looking young black guy, a big white guy who looked like he should be in the UFC, a couple average middle-aged guys, a kinda emo guy, some stoner with a camo hat and a beard, a really well-dressed black guy in his 40s, and a gray-haired psychology professor. These guys all seemed straight. There's only been one gay acting guy hitting on me the past 3 times I went out, and he was just drunk and horny.

But the thing is, the clubs I go to would generally be considered gay clubs, and probably half the people there are gay, but most of the people who are interested in me seem straight. And those are the people I'm attracted to, too, even though I'm not really hooking up with them.

So I don't know if you want to consider yourself gay or not, but don't worry that you're going to turn into some prissy queen just because you like tgirls. That's not the way it works.

I really like the videos on tsseduction. I was watching this newer one with Yasmin Lee and a guy named Tristan. I think Yasmin is really cute and it's really cool seeing a girl-next-door instead of a big porn star, so I totally thought I'd be into the video. But this Tristan guy is totally gay acting. I don't know what it is. He doesn't have some super gay lisp. But the guy acts gay. And watching a girl with a gay guy is totally weird. I wanna watch tgirls with straight guys.

I was just watching that video and it made me think of all this so I just thought I'd give my opinion on it if anybody cares.

That's simply it!

AmyW

05-25-2009, 06:11 PM

Sexual orientation is more than liking someone's gentials. It's the whole package. Some (I daresay most) people will be too hung up on the fact that a gorgeous shemale has a penis to find her attractive; others will see an attractive woman with a penis and say "Wow, she's hot".

cheersm8

05-25-2009, 07:09 PM

Interesting thread this! The whole 'tranny and gay' thing has only recently appeared within our culture. I don't know why this conundrum suddenly started to appear in the last forty years or so. It seems that, although we kid ourselves that we are now all 'liberated' and open about our sexualities we are actually more inhibited than we were back in the victorian era!
Until we became 'modern' sex with same genders and/or transgenders was just what it was, fun and sex.
We need a 'bi-sensual' revival and ditch the old 'bisexual' chestnut. That causes nowt but grief.
As for me? I find trannies sexy as hell, so much so that I became one myself! :lol: Nah, seriously, I feel that if you find trannies attractive, then enjoy it, don't worry about sexual orientation obstacles.

hankhavelock

05-26-2009, 09:33 AM

crossingoceans

06-02-2009, 02:11 PM

Naked Freedom

06-02-2009, 02:51 PM

its a common problem among people who feel to change their birth sex...

Rules created by the society are so strange. i don't know why everyone around have to bother with what one feels about self .... why just they tend to their own business? Why do they have to add to the already existin problems of people who want to change their sex? Why they cant let them be what they want? afterall they arent causing any harm to others......
Why is shame associated with these things???? why people change their outlook on people if they change their sex or their sexual preference (same sex ) comes to light ???????
and we thought homo sapiens are social animals..... if this is social then being lonely is much better.....
but again homo sapiens are emotional beings and cant let their loved ones be hurt by actions of their self....therefore tries to blend with the rules of the society to save their family from shame.....
pondering on these drives them crazy.... but still they will stick to it.... to keep their family binded and save them from shame.....
i dont know about the rest of the world but where i live the situation is very much like the way i have described above.....
i feel choked and want to flee and let my loved ones know that i am doing well as they know me but lead a life hidden from them which satisfies me?
but the thought of separation forever makes my heart cry..........

Sorry if i compounded ur problems but i very much feel like living in a cage.......

ila

06-02-2009, 05:04 PM

hankhavelock

06-03-2009, 08:55 AM

I do agree completely with Ila - take this seriously, get some support and move on from there. This forum is probably not the place to expect true guidance. Yes, a lot of good is going on here, but I doubt we have many pro-therapists on board.

From your posting it's not completely clear if you consider yourself a trans* (at least I was in doubt as to your point about this), but no matter what then you sound like a very good person with a problem you have to come to grips with.

But you're undoubtedly completely ok! And all the hazzle you meet is based on stupidity and lack of empathy from your surroundings - and that is very common, sadly.

Best wishes

H

tslust

06-03-2009, 02:04 PM

I agree with ila as well. I will say that I used to really struggle with trying to live-up to other people's expectations of what and who I should be. Ultimantely, its your life. Your opinion of yourself matters far more than anyone else's.

Vanillas

06-04-2009, 02:11 AM

crossingoceans, you need more help than you will be able to get on this site. I urge you to see a qualified therapist. I realize that this will not be cheap, but at least you will get the help that you need and deserve. I would also urge you to do some research and checking so that you can find a therapist that you feel comfortable with.

crossingoceans, I agree with Ila and Hank. The best "help" you are likely to get on this forum are facile cliches along the lines of "Don't Worry, Be Happy" or "Life is too short to feel guilty." I, too, urge you to find a qualified therapist.

SlurpySlut

06-11-2009, 06:49 PM

I don't know how to explain it. It's just that, everytime I see things related to transgenderism, or crossdressing. I just feel guilty with myself and, I wish I was 6 feet under.

I really like everything related to this world, but it's like I felt bad for liking this.

I used to crossdress, and I was also planning to undergo a sex change therapy. But a lot of difficult situations got in my way, including things with my family, who found out my plans. It caused me a lot problems. Things have changed, So do I, or at least that's what they think, to not hurt the ones surrounding me. I though that, by leaving all those things behind, I could make a change in my life for better, because I felt that I was betraying my parents and friends but, now, I think it was just stupid.

Everyday I wake up, I ask to myself "What if you would have decided to forget about those persons and pursue your dream?" To be honest I'm not happy, I can't even understand my purpose to stay alive, I just live for the heck of it, and for the hope of a better tomorrow.

I can't get it. Why I can't stay firm to my decision? Why I feel that I'm just under a smokescreen that I have made for myself to hide my truth?

I just think I'm betraying to myself but, I also feel that if I do it, that if I retake that way of life, I'll be betraying a lot of people, as well as a part of me.

The most important thing in life is to be happy and it is clear you aren't going to be happy until you are free to express your true self. I'm sure you feel you are betraying people but if you spend your life doing what other people expect you are betraying yourself and that is much worse.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with your needs and desires it is simply that society is by nature conformist and people will always take what appears to be the majority vote.

Wherever you are remember you are completely free to live your life as you want to. You may lose the respect of others but if they can't respect you for who you really are then they are not worth knowing.

puck

06-11-2009, 10:41 PM

crossingoceans,
I too agree with the others that a therapist would be of great help. And, while you are searching for that help, you might try to clarify for yourself just exactly what it is that motivates you to crossdress or have an interest in being a transgender. JUst liking or wanting to do it is not in itself a reason. Oftentimes, writing something out or even speaking it, gives a clarity that just thinking about something doesn't. When you hear something spoken you get a better feeling of whether that which is said is on or off the track. Oftentimes, we talk ourselves into something that may not be what we really want. It is just a notion.
I'm also uncertain of your motive and direction. What is it about crossdressing that you wish to persue it? Clothing, eroticism, femininity? What is it about transgender that appeals to you. That you could live as a female? Are your interests in life female oriented? Do you see yourself in a passive role with a male? Are you gay and seeking some way to get around something that you resist?
You already know what your friends and family think about your idea? Imagine if you were a transgender? How would that lessen your problems? From reading the many posts here, I gather that just fulfilling a desire to be a transgender is just the beginning of problems that there will be in society at large. It will make relationships with all sorts of people difficult and different. Just ask any of the m2f posters here.
People in all walks of life must compromise and happiness everyday isn't possible even for the most successful person in the world. Let's say you think of yourself as a woman. In that context, what is it that you would do? Is there any way that you could do that same thing and remain the person you are? Some people aren't cut out to be Babe Ruth or Joe Dimaggio but they can be successful at things related to their interest. A good coach , for example.
Think about what it is that you are striving for in your new identity and see if that is not possible with some modification? You don't need to make instant decisions--take your time. Stay calm.
Best wishes on your journey to self fulfillment.

TVSteph

06-15-2009, 04:58 PM

crossingoceans

Hello hun xxx , ok first things first i was also in your position i felt guilty because of who i was and felt like i let everyone down who knew me as a man. Yet the more and more i dwelled on it the worse i became and yes suicidal, but what changed me was i started to spend time and talk to other people in my position and how they delt with things and in time and it didnt take too long i realised i was not the only person who was or had been through this. Ive never liked my male body sure i love everything female from clothes to lifestyle. I wanted so much to be accepted.. So finally i started to take hormones are seeing my doctor and i am now going to go the full way and have sex reasignment surgery. My father has taken along time to come around my mother and sister love it and people who have known me well if they didnt accept it and respect my wishes then they were not friends in the first place and i have retained alot of them most of them were pretty shocked and wow'd when they first saw me out at a club dressed as a women and that can make you feel fantastic.

So dont feel guilty you only live once and its your life and live it how you want to truely never feel you have to be trapped.. talk ... and live life to the full.

xxx
Steph

thedrift

06-17-2009, 06:22 PM

Hello crossingoceans,

I must say I disagree with most of the posts here (except Steph).

Well, firstly - happiness is NOT the purpose of life. Life's a lot easier when there is happiness around, but happiness is this illusion people keep trying to find, and when they do, it's transient. Please be happy, but when you're not, understand that life is about what you feel, even if it hurts really badly.

Life is about survival. No matter how much the mind is upset, the body wants to live, and will do everything in its power for every precious breath. So respect your body.

And if your body is turned on by things - respect that, because as long as you're not physically hurting anything else, as long as you respect the physical space of all other things, you are guiltless.

People's minds are so fucked up, so morally up their own arses, so duplicitous, that to live your life trying to pacify their minds is crazy and not even remotely possible. Don't think for a minute that your actions will make or break your family's psychological well being. They are as, if not more (and I say that because you at least are aware of the conflicting feelings you face) f'd up than you.

You may not have taken the actions you've imagined, because you may not be ready. So, indulge in your feelings. Get off on them. Meet people you want to meet, watch the porn you want to watch, and tell guilt to go arse fuck itself.

But, before you change your life drastically, consider how good your life actually is. That you can eat, sleep, go to a movie...freely. Don't mess with that, appreciate it. Life will find you in time, make you whole and full, grow you and utilise you - so stay innocent, be simple, be unhappy when you're unhappy, and have fun when fun comes along.

I wish you so well

TheSkronkDonkey

06-17-2009, 11:04 PM

Well, firstly - happiness is NOT the purpose of life. Life's a lot easier when there is happiness around, but happiness is this illusion people keep trying to find, and when they do, it's transient. Please be happy, but when you're not, understand that life is about what you feel, even if it hurts really badly.

But, before you change your life drastically, consider how good your life actually is. That you can eat, sleep, go to a movie...freely. Don't mess with that, appreciate it. Life will find you in time, make you whole and full, grow you and utilise you - so stay innocent, be simple, be unhappy when you're unhappy, and have fun when fun comes along.

These comments remind me of an essay by Einstein. Here is the relevant extract:

From "The World As I See It":

I have never looked upon ease and happiness as ends in themselves -- this critical basis I call the ideal of a pigsty. The ideals that have lighted my way, and time after time have given me new courage to face life cheerfully, have been Kindness, Beauty, and Truth. Without the sense of kinship with men of like mind, without the occupation with the objective world, the eternally unattainable in the field of art and scientific endeavors, life would have seemed empty to me. The trite objects of human efforts -- possessions, outward success, luxury -- have always seemed to me contemptible.

michael39

08-12-2009, 10:25 PM

I think we all try to understand ourselves for being attracted to transexuals. It's weird at first... why am I so turned on? What makes me want to be with them? Am I gay? Straight? Bi? It was hard on me at first as well. But, I finally come to the conclusion that I do like cock. I just don't like it when it's attached to a real manly guy. Not sure why. I just would prefer it on an attractive woman. I look at every woman I pass when I'm out. I think about fucking just about every one of them. However, I never think about the men for a second. But, if I'm at my gym and guys are showering and nude all around me, I'm ready to drop to the floor with mouth wide open.

So, am I gay? Sure, if that's what you want to call it. Am I bi? Yup. Straight? Sometimes. I just know for a fact that I'll never be curled up in front of fire cuddling with a guy. Strolling hand in hand on the beach with a guy. But I can easily see me doing those things with a woman or an attractive transexual.

bgalore

08-12-2009, 10:37 PM

I'm straight as can be, but love shemale body, boobs, cocks, even hairy legs and butts can be sexy and fun if the right shemale feminine look! Hehe

Maine Man

08-12-2009, 10:58 PM

I considered myself to be straight. After spending a fair amount of time surfing the net and enjoying the sight of attractive shemales, I wondered if I might in fact be bi. I have had very limited experience with other guys (just two separate incidents) and I can say that while I had gained an appreciation for the sight of a hard cock, I felt awkward kissing another guy. I suppose that would make me bi with strong leanings towards being straight.

james32

08-13-2009, 06:07 AM

i dont believe u r considered to b gay. after all they are females just with a little bit extra to play with ;) thats the way i feel neways... each 2 there own

fuckstudent

08-13-2009, 06:39 AM

Gay means loving men. I can't imagine having sex with somebody who has hairy legs or arms haha. I like the body of a woman and trannies body looks nothing like men's. So NOT gay. But i like to feel something in my ass and would love to be fucked by a woman (strap on, or tranny).

twistedone

08-13-2009, 10:11 AM

Couldn't vote for some reason, but I voted "No".

Speaking for myself, I still enjoy the female body. The male body does nothing for me.

People telling me that I'm gay because I enjoy transgendered women are trying to pin a label on me, without trying to know anything about me.

I say screw their opinions. As the ole saying goes, "Opinions are like assholes, we all got one".

lancelotq

08-13-2009, 11:27 AM

I'm straight, but love shemale body and boobs. I don't know, maybe I suck for Raquel Fox, maybe

tslust

08-13-2009, 12:39 PM

Am I gay or am I straigh? Here's my no BS answer. I don't think gay or straight really matters. If you go by the ;)dicktionary:D:lol:, then you might be gay for sucking :drool:cock:drool: or wanting to get your ass fucked. I say that it doesn't really matter. You like what you like, just be happy wiht that. Lables don't really matter. Why the question of gay or straight? What's wrong with being bi?

fuckstudent

08-13-2009, 01:33 PM

If you go by the ;)dicktionary:D:lol:, then you might be gay for sucking :drool:cock:drool: or wanting to get your ass fucked.

Isn't gay by the dictionary beeing attracted by men? And trannies doesn't look like men.

rockabilly

08-13-2009, 01:34 PM

If by " Gay" you mean happy ... then yeah i'm gay because my gf makes me happy every day and night. And i love her , and really that is all that matters.

chelsea

08-13-2009, 01:47 PM

no........

The_Void

08-13-2009, 02:46 PM

No. MtF transsexuals are mentally female.

PolishMan

08-13-2009, 03:03 PM

No:kiss: :no:

ChrisBlue

08-13-2009, 04:18 PM

I love looking at pictures and videos of tgilrs, shemales and even some crossdressers and it really turns me on :turnon:. However pictures of gay sex do nothing for me at all. I would gladly fuck the arse off Joanna Jet, HAzel Tucker or any of the other beauties out there but doing it to a a 'bloke' doesn't interest me. Guess I'm not alone in that.

erotic

08-13-2009, 05:13 PM

I love women and pretty shemales - not blokes in lipstick! If they are feminine then they give me the horn but I have never shagged a shemale and dont know if I could but would date one if `she` was a stunner- hairy arsed males make do nothing for me at all - I have a thing for nice asses and some of the shemales have amazing butts (just learnt to ignore the bollocks)

citoyen

08-13-2009, 07:05 PM

ARE YOU GAY FOR LIKING SHEMALES: yes:turnon:

smlover19

08-14-2009, 02:18 AM

No but it really depends on what your attraction is towards a Transsexual. If you are just all about what's between her legs then it's possible. But if you are attracted to her femininity and everything about her then its a no.

streetglide

08-15-2009, 06:17 AM

Yes, no, maybe? Maybe we're just human, If something is unusual and exotic it's automatically interesting to us. We're curious creatures.
I'll go a step further, I don't have testicles. So technically I'm a eunuch. I look male, I act male, I consider myself straight but technically speaking, am I actually male. Chromosomally I am, but technically,medically, I'm a eunuch.
So what am I like Sweden? Am I neutral? Does that mean I can go either way and it's not gay or lesbian or any other label?
It's the same with shemales, the gender line is smudged, so who's to say whether it's straight or not?
By the way, motorcycle accident, and I found this site looking for info, but found a whole lot more!

zurggie

08-15-2009, 11:21 AM

i dont think im gay... but if its gay to love and adore this feminin ts gender, by all mean call me gay.. who cares..

ErosArtist

08-15-2009, 02:33 PM

Hedonistman

08-15-2009, 05:05 PM

Seems the poll is closed, my vote though would've been 'no'. Sure you can be gay but you're not so because you love ts girls and lb's. Folks are more than 1 or 2 word descriptions,, at least I feel that's so,...

randolph

08-15-2009, 05:13 PM

Well lets put it this way. Are you gay if you want to suck your own cock? :p:drool::turnon::inlove:

tgsexual

08-16-2009, 12:58 AM

According to dictionary definitions we are gay.

As a gay has an orientation to people of the same sex and a male is defined as someone with X and Y chromosomes, which includes most transwomen.

But, different people have different opinions on the definitions of gender. For those who accept transwoman as being of a female gender, or predominantly female, the term gay does not apply to men who are oriented towards transwomen.

But I think it's pretty obvious that, while there are parallels, and considerable diversity between gays and ourselves, the differences are significant enough to warrant a different classification.

jdawg

08-16-2009, 05:55 AM

We're bi. If you like cock, then you at least have gay tendencies and if you like women at the same time then you're bi and on the straight side of. If you only like shemale cock and like being submissive, then you're probably on the gay side of bi. While some might not be attracted to guys, you still like their package which means you're attracted to a part of them.

Really it doesn't matter, but bi is more accurate than gay or straight.

wannabecut

08-16-2009, 06:34 AM

No.

If I were gay, I would like men. I like girls with something more :)

Adis

08-19-2009, 02:18 AM

I agree totally with smlover. It depends on what you think makes men or women what they are.
For me, I like their femininity and the cock is just one part of them and not even an essential one.

shemaluvr

08-22-2009, 05:09 PM

I agree with wannabecut.
Personally I won't be able to fuck a guy, neither a transvestite.
But I love fucking girls and TS girls.

johndowe

08-24-2009, 04:36 PM

Hi there.

Gay men are attracted to men and their penises.

Straight men are attracted to women and their vaginas.

Bi men are attracted to both men and their penises and women and their vaginas.

OK.

Now, men who like shemales like their feminine bodies and their penises.

It is straight in the body part but gayish in the genitalia part, which would make it bi'ish, but not quite.

So none of the labels fit properly, maby we need a new one?

Like quasi-straight or mostly-straight?

Or maby Trisexual.

But not Quartersexual, then you'd do anything with anybody for 25 cents.

JohnDowe.

sekretter

08-26-2009, 09:09 PM

Doesn't make you gay, because I love all flavors of tranny as long as they are feminine and beautiful, but I am not attracted to men.

Although no matter how many times you try to explain the attraction to shemales, the stereotype/public-notion is too strong that it's always going to be labeled as gay no matter what.

It doesn't help that a lot of people associate trannies with grotesque looking (purposely unpassable) drag queen performers (who've undergone no hormones or surgery, etc) who identify as gay men (Completely different than a female identifying MtoF)

You can't wait for society to change, just got to deal with it

happy69

08-27-2009, 01:13 AM

I am not attracted to men, in fact watching men kiss each other it is still kind of yucky. Swishy guys giggling and singing show tunes is not my thing at all...well, OK, I do like the show tunes. But lots of hair in way too many places, not enough curves...just not appealing.

There is also a mind set of men...gay, straight, or bi. I have met some t-girls that still have this male mind set but for the most part T-girls seem to act more like brash women than gay men and many here in Thailand are not even brash women. I remember a line, "If it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, walks like a duck...it's a duck." I think this is pretty much accurate for describing T-girls. They look like women, act like women, and apparently feel like women. What are they? They ain't ducks... If this duck analogy is true, it falls in line with how I personally feel about sex with men and sex with women. Men yuck, women please.

I think society in general still wants to see the sexes in black and white, man or woman as was pointed out in an astute earlier post. A huge portion of Society (and religions) still view sex as primarily, if not solely, for procreation...not recreation. T-girl sex is not going anywhere when it comes to making babies (although I do keep trying :) ). It is strictly recreational sex (of course we know it can also be much more; love affection, commitment, and all the other things that go into making up a human relationship). Society in the West still has big problems with baby making sex between genetic men and genetic women...look at the bizarre aberrations that religion has imposed upon sexual relations now and historically! Sex is important and powerful and, as such, it gets lots of attention from folks that want to mold society...usually repressive attention sadly.

I digress. I actually feel t-girls (the majority anyway) are more women than women. GGs are born as girls and just grow up with all that that entails which makes it easy to take for granted. T-girls have had to work hard and have a strong desire to be women. They are studied in the ways of femininity where GGs just ...are. I personally feel that all this effort to become a woman gives them the right to be women and the right for me to see them as women. There is a MAJOR difference between a fem-boy and some dude in drag...even a gay guy in drag. A ladyboy is a woman in her mind and acquires the trappings (and now body parts :) ) of a women externally. Does one little Y chromosome make that much difference over choice?

So all that being said, are you gay if you love T-girls? Hell, if I know. I'm pretty sure I'm not, but I'm not dead yet and I really hate to predict what path my life will take.

timhaas

09-02-2009, 04:49 PM

Well I think if you're gay, you love men, not ladyboys, isn't? Surely, there might be a part of gay men who also love LBs, but the majority of gays prefer men, not girly boys or shemales, I suppose.
P.S. I tried to vote but couldn't. There's maybe smth wrong with the poll.

Hedonistman

09-02-2009, 04:58 PM

This ? cums up often and everywhere,,, but it's kinda silly. Nothing makes us gay or st8, we each ourselves decide.

jimbo46

09-03-2009, 11:14 AM

I myself love shebabes especially the ones who are very feminine with big tits big butts and a sexy cock. I am never ever turned on by guys but a shebabe like Vanity or Kimber James drives me wild wanting to fuck them suck them and them fuck and suck me. I also get very excited about all females I love pussy very much also. I really love to watch shebabes really hard fucking a girls pussy. No I dont think it makes you gay at all.

smc

09-03-2009, 12:26 PM

Wouldn't it be great if all of these polls and threads about whether you're gay if you like transgurls -- which are most often posted, I think, by people who are worried (for some reason) about being gay -- had this option to vote for:

Who the fuck cares!

TOMR85

09-03-2009, 01:47 PM

I am not attracted to men....I am attracted to women and tgirls.....I don't know what the hell that makes me, and I don't care! I know what I like and that is all that matters to me.

tgirlass

09-04-2009, 06:49 AM

Well coming from someone who has yet to suck a cock. I think once I suck a S.M's cock and if I really love sucking her cock. I would want to suck cock more and wouldn't really care if it was a shemale or fem boy. I'm not really into guy's but hey if I start loving to suck cock who cares as long as I'm getting my face stuffed with cock. I mean really a cock is a cock NO matter who's legs it's hanging between. So who cares as long as it's pumping cum in your face. Hell after thinking about it I think it may be nice going fishing and sucking my buddies cocks ever hour or so. I may have to start looking for the right fishing buddies after giving this some thought. :-)

So who gives a fuck what someone calls me. I wouldn't care if they were calling me a guy little slut while I was sucking their cock or being fucked in the ass by them. Because it don't MATTER as long as I'm getting mine!

megalops

09-04-2009, 09:00 AM

I never really worried about labels and believe we are all capable of loving others, no matter the gender. I've always loved pussy and enjoy being with women. I've had dozens of female sex partners. However, I assumed that I was bi because I am attracted to certain males. Specifically, feminine males. I've only had sex with 2 males in my life (and have not yet experienced the delights of a T-girl). But realize that the 2 guys I had sex with were very feminine, that is they were small and petite, had round hips, walked like a female and kept their skin soft and shaved their legs and pubes. Neither was a TV or wore make-up, they were just very feminine gay men. I have never been attracted to masculine men and, frankly, think its repulsive to even consider having sex with a big muscular hairy guy (no offense meant to anyone).

However it is that we're wired, we pick up on the feminine part, even if who we're attracted to is genetically male, and go with it. I loved having sex with these 2 men, sucking their cocks came naturally, and I have met other fem men and T-girls that I have been attracted to and wanted to have sex with but didn't, for various reasons. Anyway, I seem to be rambling, but my point is that we are all wired in a particular way and its irrelevant if we call ourselves straight, gay or bi. Just go with what feels natural to you, be safe and cause no harm.

aw9725

09-05-2009, 11:55 PM

Like many others, I first encountered t-girls while surfing the Internet. I am a male in his 30's and have never been attracted to men or ever had sex with another man. Not that I think there is anything wrong with it! My relationships with women have included a marriage of almost 15 years.

The t-girls I have seen on the Internet are very beautiful and I find myself attracted to them in the same way I am attracted to "genetic" women. I do not consider myself "gay" and joined this forum hoping to learn a little bit more about myself and my own sexuality. It has been interesting reading the posts on this topic. Human sexuality is very complex and I don't think there is a simple answer to the "gay or straight" question. I believe it was Kinsey who first said sexual behavior falls on a "continuum." More recently, there was a "Klein Grid" that measured orientation.

A few years ago, the TV show "Cold Case" aired an episode where a teenager falls in love with a t-girl and invites her to the prom. Of course, his father and others react poorly and the relationship has a tragic ending. I found the episode to be a good lesson in tolerance and have often wondered how difficult it would really be to have such a relationship or to live as a transgendered individual. Currently, I live in the mid-western United States where things are perhaps not as tolerant as say, Brazil. My own personal feelings are that it shouldn't matter to anyone but the two people involved. It's no one else's business.

johndowe

09-07-2009, 07:11 PM

Hi there.

AW9725, you are 100% right about your "affairs" (of any and all kinds) are your busines and those that are involved in them, but there are two things that you are not taking into concideration.

First: Some people aren't happy unless they're sniffing in other people's busines, trying to find some things that they don't agree with or don't understand.

Second: Ignorenace and stupidity are incurable afflictions.

Combine the two and you got a whole lot of needless BS etc.

What can you do about those people? Well they DO have as much right to be alive as you do, even if they don't think you do, trying to reason with them is ususlly a waist of time, and they often resort to violence when they are out witted, civil wars have started like this.

If you have a rationnal solution, i'd be very glad to hear it, cuse i don't.

JohnDowe.

aw9725

09-08-2009, 03:47 AM

Nice to meet you. This looks like a pretty interesting place to say the least! I put some information about myself in my profile if you (or anyone else for that matter) are interested in learning a little about my background. As you have already read my earlier post, you know my own feelings regarding transgendered women. If you are curious who, specifically, I find attractive, go check out the pictures I have posted! On a more serious note: Even though my career is in higher education, which typically has been tolerant of diverse views and lifestyles, I feel that I can’t reveal too much about myself for reasons of job security. Someone else posted that the “TG/TS” lifestyle is still considered taboo for many and doesn’t get the respect/recognition that even the “gay/lesbian” community receives. Here in the good old “heart of the USA” that is sadly and most likely true.

Without writing a dissertation on it, I believe it has much to do with fear and misunderstanding and perhaps the presence of stereotypes. From my own perspective, I had never thought much about this until recently. In college, I became friends with several gay and lesbian students. I was married and never felt any sexual attraction toward my gay friends or any desire to “fool around.” I did, however, feel close to them--I have always been kind of a “big brother” to my friends anyway and I used to feel very protective of them--I knew the kinds of things they had to put up with and how hard it was to live that way. I am sick every time I hear about some “hate crime” or murder of a gay, lesbian, or transgendered individual. I remember watching the “Cold Case” episode mentioned in my earlier post with my (now ex) wife. We agreed that something like gender identity shouldn’t matter and how stupid and ignorant people shouldn’t rule what one can or cannot do. I personally would have liked to have kicked the father’s ass (but that is another story).

Anyway, what does one do about ignorance and stupidity? As an educator, I believe that information has power and over time, people can (and do) change. Sometimes, change comes slowly. Sometimes, you have to keep reinforcing the point. I used to teach a class in “project management” where we discussed ways to take the fear out of implementing a new computer system. One of the techniques was to get the employees who actually USED the system involved--to seek their ideas and make them feel that they were actively a part of the “change.” How many times do organizations actually DO it that way though? I think that the “transgendered” lifestyle will take some time to be accepted but there are already TV shows about it and people like Kelly Shore and Vicki Richter have been very outspoken advocates and probably quite effective in helping it to gain acceptance. Others will follow. This forum--and others like it--can serve to communicate as well.

As for how to handle people sticking their nose in other people’s business--the phrase “Fuck Off” comes to mind but you won’t find that in most textbooks. In my professional career, I typically recommend that organizations have policies regarding disclosure of information--and encourage them to be as “open” as possible with employees. For more personal matters--I advocate a combination of incomplete answers and “disinformation.” The old “I am not at liberty to disclose that” or a less diplomatic “it’s none of your business” can work as well. Not everyone or every question deserves an answer. This is the place where I tell my students to “think for themselves”!

Anyway, hope some of this helps to answer your questions and I look forward to talking more with you and others on here. This has been a most interesting Labor Day break! Tomorrow I take the bike out if it doesn’t rain and Wednesday it’s back to class.

BTW I LOVED your definition of “Quartersexual” from an earlier post!

Later...

Sigma

09-09-2009, 04:44 PM

Hi everyone!:D

I have been watching transsexual porn for a while. I find transsexuals attractive. As a christian this has been very hard on me. I don't find men attractive. I do find genetic women attractive. At times I feel confused about who I am.

I have read my reports about this question. Most legitimate doctors and psychologist have said men who like transsexuals are straight.

Transsexuals are very feminine. They look and act like women. However they do have a penis. They were born men. There has been research that supports that Transsexuals are intersex. The research has found many transsexuals have the brain structure of a woman and some have different hormone levels.

chelsea

09-09-2009, 07:02 PM

I dont feel guilt

I have no reason too

DSL

09-09-2009, 07:10 PM

well i do like girls too so i would say i am a bi male, i go both ways
but no gay here.

spike_40

09-09-2009, 07:43 PM

IF YOU LOVE TOO SUCK ON SHEMALES ARE YOU GAY, OR JUST KINKY. FROM A NON GAY PERSON POINT OF VIEW:frown::innocent::turnon: ANY INSIGHTS TOO THIS ONE :innocent::coupling:

YES
Why, ?? to want, to be with, or have, or whatever, its yes no matter what way you want to look at the question

I did a lot of soul searching when I became interested and no matter what way I looked at it yes I am gay to want a my partner [when I find her]

:yes:

Jenae LaTorque

09-09-2009, 11:58 PM

No, you should not feel guilty at all. Robert Heinlein said that the only sin was hurting others unnecessarily and all other "sins" were invented nonsense. Also that hurting yourself was not a sin, just stupid.

So it is no sin for you to be attracted to Tgirls. However, it may be a sin to allow others, including your family, to know of this. And like some of the members urged above, it is a passion best kept to yourself. Like the old saying says: "what they don't know, can't hurt them."

Can it hurt you? That is only a question you will be able to answer. If you keep this passion where it belongs and do not allow it to rule your life you will be okay. You might meet a Tgirl you fall in love with or you might not. You may only love from afar. While sex is certainly a driving force in most humans, especially the young with their raging hormones; it is not the most important thing. As you grow older, you will find that it becomes less and less important. Life is too short to be feeling guilty about anything as trivial as sex.

hector.hector

09-10-2009, 12:18 AM

Some times I do feel little ashamed from it, but i can't help it, I love it :yes:

patron

09-10-2009, 02:08 AM

there almost needs to be a new category to describe guys that like LBs, aside from bi.

CuriousGirl

09-10-2009, 05:01 AM

I've come to an "understanding" with myself about my interest in T-girls, much the same as I did about my first heterosexual encounter; The guy was attractive, a gentleman, and was fun to be with in or out of bed. "OK", I said to myself, "This went better than I had been told to expect." Of course, multiple orgasms during one's first time MIGHT have contributed to the "OK!" There was some guilt after we parted that night but my Irish Catholic grannie had planted that seed from my childhood. Take THAT, Grannie!
The venture into sex with another female was more difficult to reconcile (Grannie again!) but as with my first guy the experience with the girl was romantic, sensual, and orgasmic to boot. I remember thinking to myself "Well, this may take a little more time to get used to." but that first time had been nice in every way so it was easier than I thought to admit to myself that I am bisexual. Now I have a lusty relationship with a wonderful guy as well as one with the girl referenced in this post. I guess at that point I was "Bisexually Monogamous", :innocent:
Then....Ruh Roh! I was introduced to T-girls via the internet, guided into it by the same girl with whom I first sampled Sapphic love. She, by the way, is still my best friend and lover.
I'd known that T-girls existed and had even been introduced to one in a bar but that was a world that was poles apart from mine. Then, after seeing some truly intriguing images and vids on the 'net I had to admit that I was more than just amused or mildly curious. I was absolutely fascinated! Seeing my first castrated T-girl really made me moist and giddy.
I remember thinking "Grannie will kill me if she ever finds out." Of course, If she'd found out about my first guy OR my lesbian fun, I'd have been dead long before now.
Now that I've become involved with a true T-girl, an Asian who has been castrated as well, I feel I've reached my limit, both morally and in my "comfort zone". In a way, I feel complete.
Guilt? Yes, at every boundary crossed. Resolution? So far, in that I realize that I am what I am.
NOTE: My parents know of my heterosexual love life and my father knows, I suspect, that my GF and I do more than shop, hunt and fish, and have pillow fights but he treats her like a daughter. She adores him as well and would seduce him if she thought she could.
If, however, either parent learned of my Asian "Ladyboy" and the things we do, not to mention my little kink for castration, they'd probably kidnap me and sequester me in a convent located in the Alps.
"Sister Curious"...has a nice ring to it.

Hey! I just realized that I am Trisexually Monogamous!:lol:

bumlove24

09-10-2009, 06:20 AM

I did feel guilt until i dated one for a year. She was a woman in every way bar the obvious, and because she was just like any of my previous girlfriends the guilt went away.
I think you need to see shemales as real women who were born in the wrong body, which is mostly the case, and dont dwell on the fact they were born men. You will be fine then.
I sense you have never dated a shemale before, you need to ;)

Tsluver23

09-17-2009, 03:29 AM

I am exactly like u except I'm 25 now. My suggestion is go wit the flow. I'm headed to a tranny party on fri

The_Void

09-18-2009, 10:06 AM

No. I learnt not to feel guilty for being who I am a long time ago.

ButtPlug

09-18-2009, 04:18 PM

i understand i too feel guilty once in a while
i wont lie trannys are some of the coolest down to earth laid back people i ever met so i forget about the guilt its not like u have to fuck them u can just be frineds until u feel comfortable enough

novicetgirllover

09-18-2009, 06:10 PM

I'm not in the slightest bit ashamed- in fact I can't fathom the guys who 'settle' with genetic girls when deep down they really love tgirls. I was speaking to one older guy in the Wayout club who was lamenting that he'd wasted his life trying to be 'heterosexual'. Its easier for me I suppose as i'm openly bi and everyone knows including my folks- they're ok with it too. Well they can like it or lump it! Actualy i've dropped the bi tag as I exclusively date tgirls, i'm not wasting my life with a woman who I wont be satisfied with.

All I need to do know is find the right woman. ;)

sephpeaches46

09-19-2009, 12:37 PM

same here i don't see why we would have to feel guilty at all its a passion and they're normal right?

When i had my first session with A ts i felt guiklty later. After a while that stopped. Now i'm fully into beautiful shemales and love them.
I'm in my 50's and have had a lot of sex over the years . I must say shemales are the best,sexy,sluttty horny.
I've even started swallowing cum for my bets partners..they lOVE it!

ila

09-19-2009, 02:36 PM

No, I never feel guilty for liking tgirls. Nor will I ever feel guilty for liking tgirls.

british_boy

09-19-2009, 02:57 PM

I have an Asian TS girlfriend and we adore each other - she's the best girlfriend and lover I've ever had.

I don't feel guilty or ashamed in the slightest, and since I don't want kids, there's no barrier to us being together for the long term. However, I do worry about other people's reactions if, as planned, we get "married" (civil partnership in the UK) and she comes here to live. I haven't got much family to speak of, but I'm pretty sure some friends will be weird about it.

In fact, does anyone have any advice in this area?

threnn00

09-19-2009, 08:50 PM

No, I do not feel guilty. I like what I like. A friend of mine says that no one can help what turns them on, and tgirls sooooooo turn me on. I know most of my friends wouldn't understand, but that's why sites like this are so important, filled with people who DO understand. :yes:

redjaan

09-19-2009, 10:15 PM

i've been into shemales since i was 18ish, i would not say i feel guilty about liing these beautiful t-girls but it does anoy me that its taboo and its fround apon, people see it the say as being gay but me personaly i do not find men attractive nore to i find men in drag attractive but shemales and females i do... however like after watching any porn once i cum i feel a lil guilty no matter what im watching lol but i havn't stoped nore do i plan to ...

aw9725

09-19-2009, 10:29 PM

No, I don't feel guilty. Why should I?

lblovur

09-20-2009, 06:59 PM

Hell no, but who cares. Like what ya like and go on! :yes:

hell yeah i agree with you 100%:yes:

translover

09-22-2009, 12:20 PM

i am bored this kind of questions !!! i consider my self as a Pansexual (A group which is open to members of all sexual orientations or gender identities including straight, gay, lesbian, bisexual, transexual, or transvestite)
I like having sex and i don't care their genders but i just can't love a man. I like romantism only with females.
But if it is just sex gender is not important but i prefer mostly transexual, or transvestite.

If someone call me gay because of me loving shemales then call me gay. I don't care :D :lol:

ssell10

09-22-2009, 01:10 PM

Who cares what you are! Just live your life and have fun

novicetgirllover

09-22-2009, 06:02 PM

Polysexual.

WudLuv2try

09-23-2009, 03:20 AM

I thought about it for a LONG time and I still don't know...

But what I do know is,

Thoughts about sucking shemale's dick makes me horny.

Thoughts about sucking man's dick doesn't.

And then I thought there is no difference between shemale's dick, and my dick. A dick is a dick.

So I thought about sucking man's dick, again, and it started to make me horny a little bit. Actually, the more I think about it, the more I 'get it'.

I want to feel my dick being serviced, to a point where I scream and cum all over the place. I know not many women can do that. My wife? She can't do it even if she tried.

So I have to help myself. I have to masturbate, to thoughts that makes me sexually active. Horny, I mean.

And if there was a guy, who needed his dick to be serviced in a way that he will scream and ejaculate, I'd be happy to help out, and while doing it, get my share of pleasure too.

Is that gay?

I'm leaning towards, YES, that is so fucking gay....

chester

09-25-2009, 06:48 PM

I'm anal, married, and faithful. Hot shemales and my imagination is great for jerking off. I dont care what that makes me.

crisean

09-30-2009, 11:57 AM

I do feel a bit guilty, but as others have said on here its because society dictates that my attraction would be described as ad-normal or perhaps even perverse. But I can't help what I'm attracted to and I've learnt that just because the views in a political society might dictate what people should think, we are individuals and part of the animal kingdom at heart, so we will always be defined by what each of us finds attractive. I mean for goodness sake, around 40 years ago gays were condemned....

citoyen

09-30-2009, 01:26 PM

carpe diem: I enjoy the day with my tgirl with every fiber of my body; am in partnership with my tgirl in line, not a bad degree, conventions have close to us only. friendly greetings

modman1996

09-30-2009, 01:32 PM

I do feel guilty sometimes. I can't stand the thought of having sex with a man but because it is a lady boy it makes it alright. twisted logic I suppose.

Valkyrja

09-30-2009, 02:08 PM

Well, my opinion is, that there is no point in shame, blame or such stuff. I have simple rule. If you like something, do it. :-). :hug:

Gor Gar

09-30-2009, 02:31 PM

Yes, I feel guilty some of the time, but not because I chalk it up to some sort of sin or anything along any religious lines. I used to work in an outpatient mental health facility, and we would sometimes get people in there suffering from sexual identity crisis, sometimes showing up crossdressing (and failing pretty miserably at being "convincing") and those particular cases were almost all brought on by sexual abuse at a very young age. Likewise, I have a male cousin who longs to be a lady, swearing and declaring he was born with the wrong plumbing, and yet he too suffered sexual abuse when he was very young.

So the main reason I sometimes feel guilty is because I feel like I just might be "cashing in" on somebody else's trauma. I don't know how or why all of these t-girls are or rather become what they are...the life decisions that have brought them to the point where I'm seeing pics or videos of them...but the nagging thought in the back of my mind is: "*What if* they were molested and/or abused? Am I feeding into their emotional turmoil?" In other words, I sometimes think I'm digging on exploitation of a deeper issue, and deriving pleasure out of somebody else's misfortune is simply not cool.

Another reason I feel guilty is that I sometimes think I'm doing nothing more than bullshitting myself. Every so often a "before" pic will hit the internet of a t-girl, and that kind of reality check is like a slap to the face. The way I see it is: I would never in a million years find a man attractive, but shave his body, grow his hair out, slap on some make-up and boobs, and suddenly I'm like "Oh what a beautiful woman!" Bullshit...I'm drooling over a guy that's had some work done. I'm not saying that is how I truly feel all of the time, just some of the time when I'm in those moments of guilt. Why? Who knows. Like our attractions, we can't always control our thoughts on things either, no matter how invasive they can be at times.

Tsluver23

10-04-2009, 03:39 PM

No offense but, the trannies nowadays; look more and more like gg's. So I'm simply saying if a man, doesn't get horny after viewing one, on lets say "Shemale Yum" he might be considered gay.

GRH

10-04-2009, 03:54 PM

I would argue the inverse to be true, but that's just me. And not a very popular notion around here.

shooting_shark

10-06-2009, 03:17 PM

Natalie_J

10-06-2009, 03:48 PM

Gay, straight, whatever... Labels are pretty meaningless at the end of it.

I've met a few guys are who are quite adamant that just because they like TVs they're straight and could never fuck another guy - even some of the ones who are desperate to get their lips round your cock will tell you this ;)

randolph

10-06-2009, 04:12 PM

I agree that many, many t-girls can be immensely sexually attractive for straight men.... as long as their private parts aren't in view. But as soon as the cock and balls spring bravely into the light of day, most straight men would lose interest. And I've seen many t-girls on this forum saying the same things from experience.

So no, being gay isn't the only way you won't like trannies. Now if what you're looking for is placing yourself and your preferences as far away from "gay" as you can, that's something else..... but kinda superfluous I'd say...

WRONG! All of the shemale porn sites emphasize the Tgirls cock, the bigger the better. Surveys indicate that it is straight white males that are their best customers. Many straight men find shecock a tremendous turnon. :turnon::inlove::yes:

Renegade91

10-09-2009, 09:19 AM

I go through stages where I'll try to block them out.
Lasts for a couple weeks but I always go back, I don't know if I'll ever be able to be completely comfortable with my lust for transexuals.

randolph

10-09-2009, 10:04 AM

Jenae LaTorque

10-09-2009, 02:49 PM

Now the discsussion has shifted from self-centered concerns to those of social responsibility. There is no doubt in my mind that Gor Gar is right that some, if not many, cases of transgenderism are caused by abuse. I would like to broaden the definition of abuse to include mental abuse, and not just actual sexual abuse. I would suggest that there are many roads that lead to transgender status, and the map is far from being finished. From postings on this forum it is obvious that some members are inclined in a homosexual way in that they rave on about pics of guys butts and dicks, while at the other end of the spectrum we have guys who only like very feminine looking Tgirls. Then there are the members who are fully Tgirls, whose inputs are a very valuable asset to this forum and should be fully considered.

So...just like the Tgirls we all have pasts ( our path ) that has lead us to the present. You could just as well ask if the Tgirls are contributing or, as Gor Gar put it, "cashing in" on our behavior and fantasies. The nitty-gritty of the matter is that we all use one another. It is up to us to do so in an equitable manner. I see no reason for anyone to feel guilty about their participation in any facet of life if they are not harming others. Now that may be a very difficult thing to determine and in some cases impossible. Who can forsee every consequence of their actions? The best we can do is think (meditate, pray, etc) and inform ourselves about the matter and follow our conscience. Just remember that we all rationalize our behavior; it is your duty to get as much data as possible and never to set your conclusions in stone; more information may present itself to modify or reverse your conclusion.

For those of you who read these discussions and never comment; I, and others here, urge you to do so. Your input is valuable data and is appreciated by many regardless of your position.

udrees

10-09-2009, 03:57 PM

it is terrible
i wish i would never had experience with lb
but it is like drug, u become addicted to it

hector.hector

10-09-2009, 04:11 PM

No never felt guilty...!!!

sekretter

10-09-2009, 04:33 PM

I don't feel any guilt when looking at it myself, I enjoy normal porn as well, but shemales really do it for me, I don't care what people think I should or shouldn't like.

However, I don't really tell anyone about it because they'll think I'm gay or a freak, of which I am neither. Just because I like a cock on a girl doesn't mean I like a cock on a guy, by that logic if you love pussy on a girl you must therefore like a pussy on a man (think buck angel). I'm sure most straight men are definitely not into a muscular man with a vagina, that is somebody elses cup of tea. The point is that the logic behind stereotypes make no sense but you still may be ridiculed for it. Although it may be cause for ridicule, it is NOTHING to feel guilty about, there's nothing wrong about liking a chick with a dick... You just don't have to tell anyone about it if you don't want to xD

crossingoceans

10-09-2009, 07:47 PM

The point is, that it's a fact that T-girl porn is gaining a lot of popularity nowadays. I read that article as well, and I was quite imprssed about it. Never though I'd see that coming.

avrilfuck

10-10-2009, 03:50 AM

No, never. Why? I like them, I´m happy with them. Why to be guilty?
Never must feel guilty with what gives you happines. If you feel guilty, there is something wrong with you.

tsluvit

10-13-2009, 08:24 PM

Hi Everyone, I was wondering if anyone ever feels guilty about what we like and what turns us on. I know i do from time to time. I've been into ladyboys since i was a teenager, I'm now 28. Every once in a while i start to feel bad and guilty for liking T-Girls and i try to just look at regular porn, but most of the time it does nothing for me, I just have to come back to shemale porn. As i say it doesn't happen very often just now and then, Just wanted to know if anyone experiences the same kind of thing.

Initially yes, but I got over it real quick when I discovered there were so many guys like me out there

spike_40

10-13-2009, 08:39 PM

Hi Everyone, I was wondering if anyone ever feels guilty about what we like and what turns us on. I know i do from time to time. I've been into ladyboys since i was a teenager, I'm now 28. Every once in a while i start to feel bad and guilty for liking T-Girls and i try to just look at regular porn, but most of the time it does nothing for me, I just have to come back to shemale porn. As i say it doesn't happen very often just now and then, Just wanted to know if anyone experiences the same kind of thing.

I have read many of the replies most from younger guys, my views as a older male, guilt feelings are generated when you have done wrong, it is not wrong to look, enjoy, or love another no matter what the gender may be.
:respect:

british_boy

10-14-2009, 06:34 PM

I don't have any reaon to feel guilty because I don't think I'm doing anything wrong. I'm wondering where other people's guilt comes from... letting down family? Offending your god? Fortunately, neither of those things apply to me. I would, however, feel guilty and ashamed if if I didn't to do what makes me happy.

PI_Monger

10-14-2009, 08:07 PM

I don't feel any guilt now but the first few times I went with a TS in Thailand and the Philippines I felt like everyone on the street was watching me. Actually they probably were. ha ha.

Now I don't even notice. I'm proud to be with a TS.

musclelover

10-14-2009, 11:25 PM

Well I do feel guilty mostly because of my twisted reason for being attracted to t-girls. I adore athletic and muscular bodies on my woman and when I see that kind of body (often) on shemales it turns me on. I find myself lookingat the arms and legs hoping to see flexing. In fact I was with a few shemales with muscular bodies and the only thing I didnt want to touch or know about was the Penis. but what could I say my fetish is met minus the vagina. This being said I am oddly attracted and want to play with that Long Mint's penis...
Weird, I may freak out when faced with it but it looks like fun to play with.

local

11-13-2009, 10:16 PM

Does it matter? Be comfortable in who you are. But for those who feel the need for an answer, IMHO the feminine form is not something attractive to someone "gay".

jimbo46

11-13-2009, 10:23 PM

Why is this thread still active its ridiculous you can be totally straight and love shebabes or gay and love shebabes why is this such an issue with some ppl. I myself have a beautiful full figured all female girlfriend that I love to death but I also love shebabes. Honestly somebody needs to close this thread down.

copkat

11-14-2009, 05:46 AM

You may feel shame over your desire, I still do have a little shame too. Here's my take. I spent a bizzillion hours from 12-28 lusting after pussy. Dreaming of it, chasing it, spending untold amount of money for it. I've been a porn addict from the beginning. Even before I could get my hands on porn I was collecting pictures of lingerie models from the Sunday paper. I think kinky porn addicts tastes change over time. Big bust was my thing till my mid-20s, than I went to feet and leg fetish magazines. I think if you are submissive, like me, that also pulls you toward trannies in a strong way, because what is more dominating than a big hard cock. So I'm gay right? But then why do I desperately my fucking my busty Asian girlfriend, hearing her babble in Korean as I pound her tight pussy? So I'm bi? Maybe, but I think I'm just a kinky guy obsessed with Asian femininity. Life is too short. Revel in what you love. Let the small-minded folks bicker.

bumlove24

11-14-2009, 08:24 AM

I personally dont suck on t-girls and i would never let one bum me, i treat them like women. Get sucked and then fuck them. I think if you like them to dom you and you love sucking then you are gay. If im gay for bumming gorgeous t-girls then so be it

CCC

11-15-2009, 09:39 AM

See there are three sexes I can say with confidence that I am Bi-Sexual. I love GG's and TS's but I pass on M4M. Sucking on a man's cock is definately not the same as a TS. You miss the smell, the feel and the sight of a beautiful lady.

british_boy

11-15-2009, 09:54 AM

Ask yourself this: Would you rather fuck a macho trans-man with muscles, shaved head, goatee and a pussy, or a beautiful, feminine trans-woman with a penis.

As far as I'm concerned, gayness hasn't got a lot to do with what's between the legs, and I wouldn't be attracted to a G-man or a T-man, nor a masculine woman for that matter.

To quote the film Trainspotting, "[attraction] is all about aesthetics".

DoryLee

11-16-2009, 03:00 PM

No. It's idiotic to suggest it, but we live in a black and white society that doesn't show the complexity of life. The replies above me concluded the complexity. Stop living in a black and white universe, start seeing the grey and the complexity, and you'll suddenly come to see a much bigger, fuller, more interesting picture.

-Dory

Nforc3r

11-16-2009, 03:17 PM

yh i think it is personally but as you said humans are complex and you cant stick people into strict categories

m666

11-19-2009, 05:44 AM

tbabe

11-20-2009, 02:12 PM

big no here :no:

youlikeit

11-20-2009, 03:40 PM

Personally I dont think that men that like girls are gay. Even if the girls they like happen to be born a male. As long as it is sex between a guy and a girl it is straight sex.

However, I'm sure if you took all the guys here and all the girls here and put us in a nice little christian church, we would all be labled as gay.

nadiecomoyo

12-03-2009, 02:11 PM

Who care, if you like chick with dick.

jimbo46

12-03-2009, 03:36 PM

This topic has been run into the ground somebody please kill this.

aw9725

12-03-2009, 06:29 PM

I´m not a taker, and I just like ALL KINDS of girls :yes:
I dont consider myself gay, but another might would, whatever. That happened to me before when on a party I said Rob Halford was pretty awesome, damn, I didn´t mean I wanted to get laid with him! :lol:

I have posted extensively on this topic as I have come to terms with it myself. No you are not "gay." And yes, Rob Halford is awesome! Priest rule! :cool:

2WayStreet

12-03-2009, 06:50 PM

Not definately not Gay. Attraction and whatever that follows with members of the same sex can be considered gay, but we are attracted to a third sex, that is not similar to us.:inlove:

demon_kiss2

12-03-2009, 06:51 PM

to quote butter from sp " I guess everyone is a little bi-curious" I love females n shemales the do my nuts in but i don't like guys not into it, i guess u have to look into how u feel, gay guys like guys and not anythong related to females, now if u cross dress but u like girls, is that gay, well is not as you just like to dress up cuase u like it, so if u like shemales are u gay, well i think the answer to that is evey simple ask this question and answer it

do you like females? y/n if u answer no u gay if u say yes then u not
do you like men? y/n if u answer yes u gay if u say no then u are not
do you like shemales? y/n if u answer yes ur nit gay if you said no then u don't know what y missing out on

WudLuv2try

12-03-2009, 10:49 PM

I realize that only gays can answer this question......

sexchannel

12-04-2009, 12:20 AM

thefuturesexual ?

The_Void

12-04-2009, 09:57 AM

do you like females? y/n if u answer no u gay if u say yes then u not
do you like men? y/n if u answer yes u gay if u say no then u are not
do you like shemales? y/n if u answer yes ur nit gay if you said no then u don't know what y missing out on

I would like to point out that this is quite innacurate. I answered "yes" to question two, yet I am not gay.

demon_kiss2

12-04-2009, 10:18 AM

well i meant it as sexual not as if i like men in general, is just putting a bit of common sense. I hate point the obvious so i will re-post the Q&A

Please take in mind that i am referring to sexual attraction e.g. you will actually like to have sexual experience

do you like females? y/n if u answer no u gay if u say yes then u not
do you like men? y/n if u answer yes u gay if u say no then u are not
do you like shemales? y/n if u answer yes ur nit gay if you said no then u don't know what y missing out on

bigjoe

12-04-2009, 11:11 AM

why label yourself? who cares

nadiecomoyo

12-04-2009, 05:51 PM

No, never why i have tofeel guilty or bad for somethig that i like, or you feel guilty because you like the chocolat ice cream, or the comedy movies, while you don´t to take advantage, to hurt, or do something ilegall, i don´t have to fell guilty.

Talvenada

12-05-2009, 10:46 PM

You are who you are, and so what!

Why does it matter?

jimbo46

12-05-2009, 11:34 PM

This is so idiotic ppl lets move on

oskar

12-06-2009, 06:56 AM

IF YOU LOVE TOO SUCK ON SHEMALES ARE YOU GAY, OR JUST KINKY. FROM A NON GAY PERSON POINT OF VIEW:frown::innocent::turnon: ANY INSIGHTS TOO THIS ONE :innocent::coupling:

No, you are not gay if you want to suck shemales. I´m not attracted by men at all, but I love trannies, ladyboys and femboys.

DavidQ

12-07-2009, 03:27 AM

<snip>

Hey! I just realized that I am Trisexually Monogamous!:lol:

CuriousGirl, I like your style :D

Your phrase "with every boundary crossed" is a good one. That's how I felt it - not guilt but some sense of breaking a taboo in my "regular" world. It fades quickly, though. It is a boundary thing - I'm comfortable now liking what I like. Which isn't to say I'm comfortable broadcasting things which would likely cause me difficulty in my "regular" world...

shadows

12-07-2009, 07:17 AM

I don't feel guilty whatsoever. Why would I? There is nothing at all wrong with being attracted to a beautiful woman.:)

Lycanthropunk

12-07-2009, 08:27 AM

Hi! I'm new to this forum, but i thought i'd start here in this thread. I don't feel any guilt about loving Tgirls- why should i? I can't help what i do and don't like so why should i worry about it? I consider myself bisexual. I adore how women look- no man can compare to a woman's beauty (not even Johnny Depp!), but I prefer a penis to a vagina and flat chests to big boobs, so Tgirls are perfect for me! :)

Lycanthropunk

12-07-2009, 08:58 AM

I don't like labels, but i would have to say that when it comes to my sexuality i would say i'm "trisexual"- i'll try anything! ;)

Seriously though, i consider myself bisexual. I'm not a 50-50 mix (so few are), but i could never say i'm straight as i love cock too much! I prefer the overall look of a woman- from her face to her shape, smell etc, but i have always preferred cocks to pussy. I love pussy, especially unshaven, but cocks are so much more fun! So a Tgirl is for me, the best of both worlds: the beauty of a woman with the best bit of a man!

As for considering oneself "straight" whilst loving Tgirls... i can understand that to a point. Even the most well endowed of Tgirls is more "female" than the sum of her "male" part as far as attraction goes for admirers, but ask any "regular" straight guy if he'd suck a cock if it was attached to Halle Berry or Beyonce and he'd probably say no!

craig0861

12-08-2009, 04:21 PM

I guess i agree with most here. I don't consider it gay or straight. I don't consider myself gay or straight. But, i do consider myself very sexually open minded and T girls are very very sexy. I love who they are.

nicole_girrl

12-09-2009, 04:42 AM

Are you gay for liking shemales? The age old question, with a simple answer...no.

In the context of a genetic male with feminine desires, when I have sex with another man, I'll dress the part...express myself emotionally as a woman, as well as sexually adopt the role of women.

The men I'm with want to be with me because I am (in part) a woman. If you are a man who loves the female form (although slightly altered), then you are not gay.

qnahas

12-09-2009, 01:53 PM

only tgirl

men ohhh nooooo

sulka

12-31-2009, 06:29 PM

For me a shemale/transsexual girl represent the ideal woman.They use be more feminine and sexy than manny real women these days.

aw9725

12-31-2009, 08:42 PM

Interesting to see how old these posts are! I remember reading Bionca’s response to “ShowMeLove” long before I was a member here and I thought what she said was right on. I know that it helped me to better understand my own feelings and what I was going through in my life at the time.

We are about to enter a new decade--hopefully this will at last be the start of the “21st century.” The last two centuries have been largely about physical, mechanical, and electronic discoveries. Human beings are amazingly complex and we are only just beginning to understand some of the events that occur as we develop. I have always believed that our next real breakthroughs will occur as we look inward. The Human Genome project was just the start.

I have only been aware of my attraction to trans women for about two or three years now. Although “open minded” I too have gone through the same questioning of my sexuality that others have gone through. I read the posts in the “If U Like Shemales R U Gay?” thread and find myself hoping that these individuals will come to understand their feelings just as I have mine and realize that the beautiful “shemales” they are attracted to are indeed women--as are their trans co-workers or friends. Is it really so hard to accept that a person could be born female and yet have external male genitals or vice versa? Science is only now learning what goes on during those nine months and I believe that someday we will come to a more enlightened view of human sexuality and not be so quick to place labels on who or what we are.

As the year ends I find myself doing quite well; I have a terrific career, a beautiful new ladyfriend, and of course my many new friends on this forum with whom I have been able to share something very special.

Happy New Year to all! :cool:

obinn

01-01-2010, 12:28 AM

Here is my long, highly personal and slightly boring answer. I guess I'm just expressing myself for the sake of it as I think we all realise that the OP is suffering from minor embarrassment and mild self-disgust because he enjoys something that he was brought up to disapprove of. Looks like natural attraction is a stronger force that cultural prejudices!

Drugs, sex, relationships - we all grow up with ideas about these things without having experienced them ourselves. We have learnt, from family, peers, or the media, particular prejudices against certain things and against certain members of society, who are stigmatized. I think virtually everyone would agree with that as it seems self-evident.

Like many people, I have tried to flush those prejudices from my mind. I try to question everything I hear and reach a conclusion on my own. If I lack the experience to form a conclusion, I rely on a trustworthy source until I can attain that experience.

Strip away your prejudices and everyone is equal.

If everyone is equal, the question isn't why do some people like TS girls; the question is why doesn't everyone like TS girls?

Actually, the real question is why do many people actively dislike and ridicule TS girls? What have the girls done to deserve it except to simply be themselves?

I grew up being attracted to girls. Some TS girls look exactly like genetic girls, so I am attracted to them. That seems perfectly natural - only the prejudices of society make it seem otherwise. In my case, that's why a straight man can become a TS girl lover. It broadened my horizons; I woke up to myself. Now a TS girl doesn't have to look exactly like a genetic girl (with one obvious difference) to be attractive to me.

Why should I be turned off because TS girls have a penis? Penis' aren't disgusting - I have one!

For reasons I don't understand, I don't seem to be attracted to men, sexually. I like the idea of it, so I guess that in the right circumstances I could go all the way with a man. I hope so - I want to experience everything life has to offer.

I don't want to limit my experiences because of the prejudices of my society. Doing that would reinforce those prejudices, and I'd be disappointed with myself if I did that.

TS girls are individuals, so I'm not attracted to all just as I'm not attracted to all women. And it's not because they have or don't have a penis that I am attracted to someone.

pretty_ladyboy

01-01-2010, 01:15 AM

^

its the case of "discrimination" I guess...

but for me as long as I live well I dont mind them ;)

klabusterbaer13

01-08-2010, 07:12 AM

im personally not attracted to men, but i like women with dicks.
not gay to me ;)

british_boy

01-10-2010, 05:49 PM

I have a Filipina TS girlfriend, but if I had to pick a label, as restricting as they are, I'd identify myself as a straight man.

Sexuality isn't confined to whether the person you like has a cock or a pussy; it's the whole package. I am attracted to femininity, and I even sometimes wonder if the juxtaposition of a cock and an attractive woman enhances her femininity. For example, my girlfriend is petite, feminine, gentle, and when I'm snuggled up against her soft, smooth skin, stroking her long hair, and smelling her flowery perfume, it never crosses my mind that she was born a boy... she's a girl who happens to have a cock. If anything, it seems to bring us closer together in the sense that we are opposites - me being a big, burly bloke, and she a girly girl - but we have our sexual parts in common, and we can please each other in the same way.

To further demonstrate what I'm getting at, take a look at some gay porn - my feeling is that the sight of hard, hairy fellas with short haircuts, banging the hell out of each other in jockstraps will be a massive turn off. Next, take a look at some pictures of a TS male with a beard, pecs, skin-head and pussy. He was born a girl right? Bet you don't think it's 'straight' to fancy him, which leads to the logical conclusion that it's not 'gay' to fancy transsexual women.

I think that our biggest problem is others' perceptions of us. Only a few close, liberally-minded friends know the full extent of my relationship. Others know that I have a Filipina girlfriend, which isn't a lie, but they don't know the full story. If our relationship continues and we decided to settle together in the UK, I know there will be a shit-storm, and I could lose a few relatives and friends over it. I'm also sure there will be some hate, and some ignorant whispers of "Did you know Jay is gay?" behind my back. I just hope I'm strong enough to rise above it, support my lovely girl, and stay true to myself.

smc

01-10-2010, 05:55 PM

Hello, and welcome to the forum. I have a Filipina TS girlfriend, but I identify myself as a straight man.

To my mind, sexuality isn't confined to whether the person you lust after has a cock or a pussy; it's the whole package. My girlfriend is petite, feminine, gentle, and when I'm snuggled up against her soft, smooth skin, stroking her long hair, and smelling her flowery perfume, it never crosses my mind that she was born a boy... she's a girl who happens to have a cock.

Take a look at some gay porn - my feeling is that the sight of hard, hairy fellas with short haircuts, banging the hell out of each other in jockstraps will be a massive turn off. As would the sight of a TS male with a beard, pecs, skin-head and pussy.

I think that our biggest problem is others' perceptions of us. Only a few close, liberally-minded friends know the full extent of my relationship. Others know that I have a Filipina girlfriend, which isn't a lie, but they don't know the full story. If our relationship continues and we decided to settle together in the UK, I know there will be a shit-storm, and I could lose a few relatives and friends over it. I'm also sure there will be some hate, and some ignorant whispers of "Did you know Jay is gay?" behind my back. I just hope I'm strong enough to rise above it and stay true to myself.

Your story should be an inspiration to others on the Forum. Thank you for sharing it with all of us.:respect:

franalexes

01-10-2010, 06:14 PM

I have a Filipina TS girlfriend, ...

Yup. This guy "gets it".:hug::kiss::respect:

sniffmeister

01-11-2010, 04:23 PM

I like the looks of shemales, I find it erotic.

But Im straight, I like girls and I've never find guys attractive, but why do I find shemales attractive?

Am I really gay, but I think Im Straight?
Am I Bi? Or Am I just a normal straight guy with fetishes?

avatar69

01-14-2010, 02:36 AM

Look! from my personal exp., You are not GAY! as you said. Because you don't fancy male, obviously. For myself, I have a ladyboys(post-op) fiancee. I've been into ladyboys since ever, these girls are the coolest living human-being ever. If you interest in faminine people (shemales, ladyboys, women) then you're not gay!. My family doesn't like the idea of gay things too, Its bugging me too... so don't worry, be the person you are! don't care what others said! you are what you are and no one can take that away from you!

pretty_ladyboy

01-14-2010, 07:08 AM

IN MY OPINION,

as long as you didnt get a hard-on on straight guys that so masculine, then you dont have to question your sexuality... coz you are just attracted to us, shemales, because of feminine beauty.

and I agree with others too... as long as you are not harming anyone then just ignore what others will tell you... the right thing is youre happy :)

chakal2006

01-22-2010, 02:47 AM

im not gay, im not attracted to masculine men, i hate their voices and the way that they look .

i never want to be fucked , i dont even want a girl near my ass.

but i got attracted to this tgirl named "doll" from texas,

is this wrong, is anybody else like me, that is straight but likes to look at shemales from time to time.

is this wrong? ...

plz discuss

beginner

01-22-2010, 02:15 PM

I agree with you about the nature of shemales. And I also think that a man who is attracted by shemales is not gay, because they are not men! At most, I think I'm bisexual because I like girls, but I also like tgirls!!
Beginner

Sorry, friend, but i disagree totally with you. :( Your definition of shemales as "girls with a living strap-on dildo than can produce cum" is ridiculous, offensive and fully wrong. I've known many ladyboys and ensure you that, in spite of the appearance, a lot of shemales are androgynous. Many shemale-lovers project on ladyboys their desires, dreams and fantasies. They see only the feminine side of shemales, and don't look at the masculine side, what is less showy but more deep. After some months of relationship with a ladyboy, the masculine side becomes more and more evident, and you understand that she's at the meantime female and male.
I disagree also about the "gay-question". Love for shemales can have different causes, motivations and origins and shemale-lovers can be straight, gay and bisex ( the most are bisex). Recently i've devoted a poll to this subject. As you can see a close majority of the members (11) is looking for a complete femininity, but many (10) want a preminent femininity mixed with a bit of masculinity, and a few (4) are looking for an androgynous. I adore the androgynous-type, am totally passive and repute myself virtually gay.

rockabilly

01-25-2010, 01:29 PM

beginner

01-25-2010, 06:56 PM

Thank you! What you think and what you say is exactly what happens with me. I am portuguese,much older than you; my ts girlfriend is also portuguese and a liittle older than your filipina girlfriend. Those are the only differences! It is very good to find someone who feels and thinks like we do. Not that I ever thought that my love for a shemale woud make me gay, but that makes my belliefs stronger.
Beginner

I have a Filipina TS girlfriend, but if I had to pick a label, as restricting as they are, I'd identify myself as a straight man.

Sexuality isn't confined to whether the person you like has a cock or a pussy; it's the whole package. I am attracted to femininity, and I even sometimes wonder if the juxtaposition of a cock and an attractive woman enhances her femininity. For example, my girlfriend is petite, feminine, gentle, and when I'm snuggled up against her soft, smooth skin, stroking her long hair, and smelling her flowery perfume, it never crosses my mind that she was born a boy... she's a girl who happens to have a cock. If anything, it seems to bring us closer together in the sense that we are opposites - me being a big, burly bloke, and she a girly girl - but we have our sexual parts in common, and we can please each other in the same way.

To further demonstrate what I'm getting at, take a look at some gay porn - my feeling is that the sight of hard, hairy fellas with short haircuts, banging the hell out of each other in jockstraps will be a massive turn off. Next, take a look at some pictures of a TS male with a beard, pecs, skin-head and pussy. He was born a girl right? Bet you don't think it's 'straight' to fancy him, which leads to the logical conclusion that it's not 'gay' to fancy transsexual women.

I think that our biggest problem is others' perceptions of us. Only a few close, liberally-minded friends know the full extent of my relationship. Others know that I have a Filipina girlfriend, which isn't a lie, but they don't know the full story. If our relationship continues and we decided to settle together in the UK, I know there will be a shit-storm, and I could lose a few relatives and friends over it. I'm also sure there will be some hate, and some ignorant whispers of "Did you know Jay is gay?" behind my back. I just hope I'm strong enough to rise above it, support my lovely girl, and stay true to myself.

tslust

01-25-2010, 09:42 PM

"Am i gay?"

That question is asked on alot of forums , let me ask a question.

"What do you think ?"

Your opinion should be the only one that matters , but i know all to well that pressure and judgement from society and family can make things harder than they need to be.

At the end of the day just be happy and live for yourself because you can't please everyone. Love and be loved ... be happy everyone.

You said it, baby:kiss:.
IMHO You like what you like. I don't know why some people have to get hung;) up on the whole "am I gay or am I straight" thing. What's wrong with being bi?

GRH

01-26-2010, 01:09 PM

If ever there were a bunch of rationalizations for why a man liking cock is not gay, this thread is surely it.

aw9725

01-28-2010, 03:47 PM

Trans women are women. How can you possibly be “gay” for being attracted to them? If you don’t “get” this, you should read some of the biographies of the models you like. Or some of the postings on this forum. Or look up “gender identity” on the Internet.

I don’t know why this is so hard to understand. Also the “gay/straight” issue shouldn’t matter either--if you are attracted to someone, does it really matter what’s “down there”? However, I understand what many of you are going through because I questioned it myself--was I suddenly “gay”? After a great deal of consideration and reading other people’s posts on forums like this, I concluded that I wasn’t. But if I had decided that I was gay, I would still be “OK” with myself. So, much of it comes back to how you view yourself and who you are attracted to. If you like someone who has a hard, muscular body, or a hairy chest, and they must have a cock, then yes maybe you are gay. If you like all types, and have had sex with both men and women, then you are most likely bi. For myself, I like a very feminine face and body--most female bodybuilders and trans men do not “do it” for me.

Everyone on this forum knows that I would die for Kelly Shore. Also, a few months ago, I listed about 20-30 well known “tgirls” that I really like. And many of you know I was a judge for the 2009 “Tranny Awards.” Just for fun I thought I’d post some pics of a few of my favorite cis women. :drool: Don’t think they need any introduction! I would include a picture of my “ex” but I don’t need any legal problems… :lol:

Questions for the guys: Would you suddenly be “gay” if you found out any of the women below had a penis? How would you feel if you met someone you really were attracted to and discovered her “secret”--would you stop liking her--or would you be OK with it? How would you make love to her if you have only been with cis women? These are essentially the questions I asked myself when I first discovered I liked “tgirls.” Kate Walsh is a very special case as she did in fact play a trans woman on CSI. I wrote about that experience in another post.

The Conquistador

01-28-2010, 03:57 PM

Trans women are women. How can you possibly be “gay” for being attracted to them? If you don’t “get” this, you should read some of the biographies of the models you like. Or some of the postings on this forum. Or look up “gender identity” on the Internet.

I don’t know why this is so hard to understand. Also the “gay/straight” issue shouldn’t matter either--if you are attracted to someone, does it really matter what’s “down there”? However, I understand what many of you are going through because I questioned it myself--was I suddenly “gay”? After a great deal of consideration and reading other people’s posts on forums like this, I concluded that I wasn’t. But if I had decided that I was gay, I would still be “OK” with myself. So, much of it comes back to how you view yourself and who you are attracted to.

...

Questions for the guys: Would you suddenly be “gay” if you found out any of the women below had a penis? How would you feel if you met someone you really were attracted to and discovered her “secret”--would you stop liking her--or would you be OK with it? How would you make love to her if you have only been with cis women? These are essentially the questions I asked myself when I first discovered I liked “tgirls.” Kate Walsh is a very special case as she did in fact play a trans woman on CSI. I wrote about that experience in another post.

Nice post. Worrying about whether you are gay or not seems rather trivial and it only seems like a gimmick by others to make themselves important somehow; as if your purported "gayness" somehow directly affects them in a negative manner.

I think Kate Beckinsale and Jennifer Aniston would look awesome with some "extra" between their legs. :yes::turnon:

aw9725

01-28-2010, 06:01 PM

Nice post. Worrying about whether you are gay or not seems rather trivial and it only seems like a gimmick by others to make themselves important somehow; as if your purported "gayness" somehow directly affects them in a negative manner.

Thanks, AngryPostman. I hope that the people posting on here and asking questions about whether or not they are gay learn to accept themselves just the way they are. It's all good!

Maybe one day society will drop this silly idea that we must "label" or "categorize" everything--the real world is much too complex for that...

I meant to include a link to my earlier post where I explain how Kate Walsh is really to blame for all of this... :lol: and also how I first came to be such a big fan of Miss Kelly Shore! :cool:

http://forum.transladyboy.com/showpost.php?p=128514&postcount=57

I totally understand what many of you are going through--may you each one day come to a better understanding and acceptance of your own sexuality. :respect:

muverick

01-29-2010, 10:41 AM

Hey everyone, I was about to ask the question of if it's gay or not to be aroused by ts girls.
Not for the sake of putting myself in a category, just for curiosity, to see what the general opinion is.

I've got a girlfriend (who sometimes puts on a strap-on during sex :turnon:), I am not attracted to men in anyway :turnoff:
I just normally assumed I'd be kind of "bi" due to the whole cock attraction of ts girls? Maybe semi-bi-sexual? :lol:

Alanz

01-29-2010, 01:25 PM

Does it really matter? I thought I was "normal" until my Thai girlfriend introduced me to the world of "Ladyboys". Now Yao and I can"t get enough. From Mint to Helen they"re all beautiful. WHO ARE YOUR FAVOURITES?

Demonic shemale licker

02-02-2010, 05:53 PM

recently,not really.. but yes very rarely i do feel guilt. and not because i am ashamed of liking these beutiful people, but because i think of my family. my dad is very macho, and i dont know what he'd do if he knew about my interest in ladyboys..

I feel the same way, my mom would not take it 2 well if she found out i was a shemale lover or if she found out that i'm an atheist, my friends in school would probably look at me differently.

I have read many of the replies most from younger guys, my views as a older male, guilt feelings are generated when you have done wrong, it is not wrong to look, enjoy, or love another no matter what the gender may be.
:respect:

Thanks i never looked at it that way.:)

Well I do feel guilty mostly because of my twisted reason for being attracted to t-girls. I adore athletic and muscular bodies on my woman and when I see that kind of body (often) on shemales it turns me on. I find myself lookingat the arms and legs hoping to see flexing. In fact I was with a few shemales with muscular bodies and the only thing I didnt want to touch or know about was the Penis. but what could I say my fetish is met minus the vagina. This being said I am oddly attracted and want to play with that Long Mint's penis...
Weird, I may freak out when faced with it but it looks like fun to play with.
Long mint does have one of the most glorious peanuses i have ever seen on a man or a t girl, it looks yummy.:lol::turnon::turnon::turnon:

ila

02-02-2010, 06:07 PM

I don't feel guilty at all for liking transwomen. If anyone can't accept me or any transwoman that I might be with then that would be that person's problem and not mine and definitely not the lady's problem. I will also not tolerate any disparaging remarks about transwomen. Anyone that shows any intolerance for transwomen (or transmen) or makes disparaging remarks about transpeople in front of me will get an earful of abuse from me. In conclusion I would like to say that I do not feel guilty for liking transwomen and I would be pleased and proud to have a transwoman beside me.

aw9725

02-02-2010, 06:48 PM

No. I feel no guilt. How could I? Guilt implies that you are doing something ?wrong? or something you are ?ashamed? of. I am not ashamed of being attracted to beautiful women or being seen with a beautiful woman.

Are you afraid of what your friends might say? Then perhaps you need to look inside yourself. Also you might want to find some new friends? ;)

agedwards63

02-02-2010, 09:57 PM

Guilty? no I did for a long time think it was a "kink" or merely a passing phase, and that I was really a good old fashioned hetro boy... what I found out is if you go too far down the path there is NO turning back and it never leaves you.

dolfan72734me

02-03-2010, 09:54 PM

I dont feel guilty. But, the big problem for me right nowis this. I'm into Genetic girls and transexuals. I've never been with a transexual before, and I really want to. However, the girl I'm dating is amazing, but not so amazing as to just let me have sex with someone elde. We've been together for 4 years now, and I'm feel pretty confident I want to marry her. But, the thing that keeps holding me back is that if I do, I'll prolly never get to fulfill my fantasy...

The way I feel about it is, whether it is a hot girl with a vagina, or a hot girl with a cock, it is the girl I am wanting, not so much of what she has down there.
Seems to me we should feel lucky either way.

suckerpunch

02-08-2010, 07:43 PM

Interesting topic I think British Boy's quote was spot on. Being my age I have spent many years wondering the same thing I like TS but I'm not gay but why do I like TS cock? I've been into TS for 10 years plus now. No one knows apart from me & if my GF found out it would bring up some interesting questions, such as why explain the attraction? why haven't you told me before? etc I'm secure enough to a degree that it wouldn't ruin what we have, as she has some lesbian friends - which are now mine too (not that she is that way inclined) Yet if I'm honest its not the right time to tell her because at times I still feel guilty because of the deception as its a dirty secret

The way I ease up on myself is when I'm out even with my gf its the girls I look at not the boys - so that says to me I'm straight

km1

02-08-2010, 10:13 PM

I like tits and ass more than cock, but I like cock more than pussy. I'm attracted to almost 50% of the women/tgirls out there in the world but definitely less than 1% of men. To try and classify myself would be too much of a challenge so I just go with what gets the blood flowing.

pearcewr81

02-13-2010, 11:21 PM

i've spoken to a few of my gay friends about this and they assure me that i am not gay for liking shemales. the whole gay/strait thing refers to if you like women or men. since shemales are women, you arent gay

jakebelly

02-19-2010, 11:31 AM

I cant tell you whats right for you but you need to find happiness.

IronCity

02-20-2010, 10:20 AM

ila

02-20-2010, 10:24 AM

smc

02-20-2010, 10:32 AM

there are way to many "am i gay "questions here too.. you are what you are .... you like what you like.... why are you asking someone else to label you as gay bi straight ....if you need to have a label .....well label yourself..

I agree that that there are way too many questions of this sort on our board; I have posted about this several times in the past. Over time, though, I've come to find them less bothersome. They reflect the tremendous pressure society puts on people who are "different" from what is (wrongly) considered "normal." This forum provides a place for people who are attracted to tgirls not only to explore that attraction but also to engage with others who may have some insights into how to navigate the obstacles and prejudices society throws their name.

I believe that if by providing a place to do that this forum helps anyone, even a single person, to embrace himself or herself as he or she really is, we have made the world a better place. The price -- a lot of threads about labels, and even a lot chock full of rationalizations with which some of us may not agree -- is a small one to pay.

IronCity

02-20-2010, 07:53 PM

I am not here to judge you.. your sexual preference is your own business and i will not like or dislike you for what you are sexually... if you question if you are bi /gay/straight ...i say sure feel free to ask but the only person that can truly answer that is you. you can get good advice here but you must explore your inner most thoughts and desires and if you must have a label it has to come from within.:innocent:

ldom26

02-21-2010, 02:27 PM

I don't know what is it about a woman with a dick but I know it drives me wild and the thought of sticking my cock in one drives me insane, just hope one day it will become a reality and not just a thought in my head !!!!Does that make me gay ........ I don't think so !!

Ladyboys all the way, I would never let a man put his cock but would gladly let a ladyboy stick her stiff cock deep inside me, infact I dream of the day this happens

Hedonistman

02-21-2010, 03:17 PM

only you can know if you're gay or not... fuck labels,,,go w/what's in your head,, how YOU think and feel is all that matters...

CCC

02-21-2010, 05:40 PM

smc

02-21-2010, 06:01 PM

:turnon:Come on --give me hand here.

If you like girls only then you are straight :yes:
If you like guys only then you are gay :no:
If a girl likes a girl then you are a lesbian :yes:
If a guy like girls and guys then he is Bi- :no:
If you think that T-Gurls are girls with a cock (like I do) then you must still therefor be straight---right??? :inlove::hug::turnon:

Of course if you like girls, guys and T-gurls you should always be getting lucky.

This is clearly the definition of someone to whom it is important that you be identified as straight.

There are many, many threads and posts about this topic. The bottom line from those of us who are comfortable with our sexuality is this:

WHO CARES ABOUT THESE LABELS!!!

IronCity

02-22-2010, 08:51 PM

WHO CARES ABOUT THESE LABELS!!!

EXactly!!!!!!! if you like girl penis ... are you gay??? I dunno .... i like girl penis... am i gay... i dont think i am .... i dont want a mans penis... but what if i am gay .. so what .....other people dont have to know what you like.... who you like... its not like you have to put bi/gay/straight on your drivers license or your library card. Deep down inside you know what you are.. so embrace it and live life....today could be your last day on this earth... stop labeling and start living!!!

tiggerme

02-23-2010, 12:33 PM

well, the way i think of it is like this. i like soft female beings. i love tits in all shapes and sizes. and i love them being delicate. all these things i can get from a female or a shemale. the difference, some may say penis others a really large clitors. the bottom line, thinking a human being is beautiful and getting sexualy aroused is alright rather male or female.

Alanz

02-23-2010, 10:03 PM

I read this thread with interest and tried an experiment. I watched my girlfriends gay porn dvd to see if it aroused me. it didn"t, in fact I felt a little embarrassed by it. Then I watched my copy of "spunk" a Ladyboy masturbation dvd, that got me really hot. I think that proves on the whole Ladyboy lovers are not Gay! They just love chicks with dicks!! Go on give it a try, you may just enjoy it! One day it may be too late.

Hey! We wouldn"t be using this forum if we were Gay! Would we?

Lycanthropunk

02-25-2010, 01:30 PM

This is a fascinating topic, albeit an age-old one. My perspective seems to be a little different from most on here. I completely agree that we should transcend the confines of fitting into a rigid "label", but we will be labelled by others whether we like it or not. Our complex personalities will be simplified into bitesize chunks for ease of use during other people's perceptions of us.

Where my perspective differs is that I know I would be labelled "bisexual" and I'm happy with it. I like men AND women. With women I love the way they look and dress- generally they are MUCH more attractive than guys. But with men i love their cocks, their hairiness. But it's not always the differences between men and women which satisfy my bisexuality- sometimes it's the similar traits. Whilst I love curvy full figured women I tend to prefer women with flat chests to big breasts. I also love muscular legs and hairiness on girls. And whilst I love hairiness on guys, the muscle I find attractive on a girl I find repulsive on a guy. I think for me I love androgeny- the blurring of the line between genders.

T-girls, for me, are the perfect celebration of bisexuality. They represent the best of both worlds. The beauty of a woman matched with the very best bit of a man. Normally I would have to satisfy my bisexuality separately, either with a man or a woman, but a t-girl is everything I could wish for, all in one amazing package! I agree that t-girl admirers vary with their "straightness", and that can be seen in their preferences. Being happily bi I tend to prefer flatchested donkey-dick'd femboys to their bigger breasted sisters, but that's just me.

Bottom line is that how we are labelled sexually doesn't matter, and if we HAVE to labelled, then "t-girl admirers" should be a label itself!

GRH

02-25-2010, 01:52 PM

This topic always makes me laugh my ass off. Never do you see such a bravado attempt by men to try to rationalize why they like cock. They will try to paint it up like...It's only cock on a pretty feminine form that I like. Or...I don't like cock on gay men. But the fact of the matter is...Men like cock. That is as gay as it comes. And if for some reason you think you're exempt from this logic...Please, just TRY liking a girl like me for a little while. I guarantee you WILL BE CALLED GAY. So you might as well get over labels or get used to being considered gay, because all of you "t-girl lovers" are a bit gay in my opinion.

smc

02-25-2010, 02:01 PM

It is a remarkable feeling of liberation from the ways in which society seeks to mold us within unreasonable boundaries of so-called "normalcy" to be able to say "I love cock" and not care what anyone else thinks.

I just told someone earlier this week, after knowing him for 30 years! Once I added "not yours," he was fine.

GRH

02-25-2010, 03:12 PM

SMC, I think it's GREAT that you can admit that to yourself and to another human being. Especially without the normal disclaimers of "as long as it's attached to feminine form."

Because let's face it, most people are NOT interested in a person's "disclaimers." If you like cock, and you're a male, you're gay. It doesn't matter what it's attached to...At least to most people. And I assume that's what most people are REALLY worried about in this thread...And that is, what do MOST people think. And the fact of the matter is, to MOST people, liking ladyboys/shemales makes a person probably gay. Either get used to the label or get over it, that's my motto.

aw9725

02-25-2010, 03:41 PM

If anyone cares to they can read my other posts on this topic. There seems to be a very diverse range of responses and yes, it does seem like at times, some here are seeking to “rationalize” their desires. I can only speak for myself on this issue but I have never been attracted to men and have only had sex with cis women. I find many transsexual models very attractive and have no problem imagining myself in a relationship with a transwomen someday. I don’t want to disappoint some of you but I really am attracted to the “whole person” and not simply “the cock.” That said, I also find nothing wrong with “being gay” and if that is what it makes me--so be it. Although I don’t believe most gay men would be attracted to someone like Kelly Shore or Camilla Saenz or Victoria Holyns for example. As for the external sex organs involved… I do believe that it is all (for me at least) “in context.” When I see gay porn, I can’t imagine myself fucking or sucking any of the guys in the scene. I can appreciate a handsome or well built man but they just don’t “do it” for me. Sorry! I have seen pictures of Camilla “post op” and she is equally beautiful and sexy with a penis or vagina. It is the “absolutely totally drop-dead gorgeous tall long legged blonde goddess” that I am attracted to. And don’t even get me started on Kelly!

Anyway, this topic is obviously important for many and I myself have wondered the same thing as many of you. Personally, you shouldn’t worry if you are “gay” or “straight” or “bi” or whatever. Someone else here said that by society’s logic we would all be considered “gay.” Well I believe that that “logic” to be faulty--the issues involved are way too complex. But I understand it. I have developed my own plan for “coming out” if you will and have gradually begun to make progress. Since attending our local “Day of Remembrance” last November, I have made friends with several transwomen (and transmen) in our community. I shared my interest with two very good friends over the holidays and my colleagues (I’m a university professor) know I have supported gay rights for many years.

That’s my story. Again. To sum it up, I believe each one of us is unique and that’s why labeling is silly.

Dr. A

cyba

02-25-2010, 09:48 PM

all of you "t-girl lovers" are a bit gay in my opinion.
And how about you. GRH. I see you're a 'senior LB lover.' :p
There's still the distinction, at least for me, between those
males who genuinely would never have a sexual relationship
with a male and, especially, have no preference for that..
and are not inclined to touch guy's cocks, and who generally
prefer females, but, would play with an LB.
Me.
That 'little bit of dick' is a puzzle.
I take it, for you, the gold standard is guys, perhaps the vast
majority, who'd never touch a cock, period.
We can say they're 'straight'/hetero.
Everything else (all other situations involving cock) is/are 'gay'?

aw9725

02-26-2010, 12:41 AM

Someone gave me "rep" for my "Taracuda" posting of Tara Emory. Thanks!

I think the pic of her below is one of the sexiest photos I've ever seen--EVER! :drool:

Does being aroused by Tara make me "gay"? I mean, she's got a "cock"! OMG!!! You know, I could care less whether it "makes me gay" or not. But there is an important fact here that many of you who are wondering "if you are gay" are leaving out--transwomen are women.

We are not talking about male "crossdressers" or "drag queens." Although that's OK too. The women I am attracted to are women--period. To see them any other way would be an insult. That applies equally to Kelly Shore as it does to my new friends from the Day of Remembrance or any transwomen on this forum.

Something I wanted to add to my earlier post--I am probably "older" than most of you (late 30's) and discovered this "interest" much later in life. I was already comfortable with my sexuality and had been married for a long time. Even so, I went through the same questioning that many of you posting here are going through. One thing I have learned is that there are many "variations" on what each of us likes. My wish for you is that you will learn to accept who you are. Asking questions is part of learning. I also hope we can all accept each other as we are without "labels"--as I like to say "It's all good!"

Dr. A

jimudon

02-28-2010, 11:31 AM

smc

02-28-2010, 11:43 AM

Someone gave me "rep" for my "Taracuda" posting of Tara Emory. Thanks!

I think the pic of her below is one of the sexiest photos I've ever seen--EVER! :drool:

I have nothing to add beyond my earlier post on the specific topic of this thread, at least at the moment. But I do want to take this opportunity to endorse what Dr. A writes about the Tara Emory photo. The entire set from which that photo comes may be the sexiest ever.

Kylieam1

02-28-2010, 12:27 PM

I myself am a gay male but i also love and have been with several shemales

DEFENDER

03-03-2010, 07:32 AM

Whats in a name?.......and does it really matter? If some law was passed that decreed that all "shemale lovers/admirers etc" are now to be classed as being "gay" would you suddenly change? Life's too short to worry about titles and being placed in catagories. Accept who you are and if others can't deal with that, just move on,....and most of all,...enjoy living life to the last second. I have the loveliest TS girlfriend and I bless that day that we met and if that makes me gay, I honestly could'nt give a damn!

chickswdicks

03-03-2010, 04:23 PM

I am no doubt straight. Although some times when im horny i crave cock from anybody.

GRH

03-03-2010, 04:28 PM

A "straight" male that sometimes "craves cock." LMFAO!

chickswdicks

03-03-2010, 04:33 PM

A "straight" male that sometimes "craves cock." LMFAO!

Alright im no doubt bi

Natalie_J

03-03-2010, 04:33 PM

A "straight" male that sometimes "craves cock." LMFAO!
Isn't that a bit like being a vegetarian who eats meat now and again?

chickswdicks

03-03-2010, 04:38 PM

Isn't that a bit like being a vegetarian who eats meat now and again?

Eats and gets fucked by ''lady meat'' now and again.

Natalie_J

03-03-2010, 04:55 PM

Eats and gets fucked by ''lady meat'' now and again.
:) I've met a few 'straight' guys in the last few years who, it turned out, had quite a liking for 'lady meat' ;)

chickswdicks

03-03-2010, 05:03 PM

:) I've met a few 'straight' guys in the last few years who, it turned out, had quite a liking for 'lady meat' ;)

Does anyone NOT like lady meat??

GRH

03-03-2010, 05:38 PM

The vegetarian analogy is actually a very apt one. A lot of the "straight" guys seem to ignore the fact that they have a hankering for cock now and again. It reminds me very much of a self-proclaimed vegetarian who "sometimes eats chicken and fish." That is an issue close to my heart to, as I am in fact a full-fledged vegetarian and never eat meat (though I do eat eggs and cheese...different story there).

chickswdicks

03-03-2010, 06:59 PM

I think that's a good analogy too. For the most part I like eating and fucking pussy. But every now and then I sucking and fucking cock. I'd say i'm 75% straight and 25% gay.

The fact is gay men are attracted to other things about men not just his cock. And although i like some slightly masculine shemales, im really just attracted to WOMEN with dicks.

CdJodi

03-04-2010, 07:21 PM

I Have Always Used To Be Ashamed About Being Bisexual But Now I'm Happy With My Sexuality And Am Happy To Tell People I Like Men, Women And Tgirls Etc... For Me Its About The Person Not What Gender They Are ... If I Like Them As A Person Then I Will Most Likely Go For Them

ObscureAlternative

03-04-2010, 08:11 PM

I agree, it took a while but I agree. I only want to be with lady-cock, or fem-boys. Just finally said, I don't have any desire for ggs. I want be on the other team. Granted I prefer fem-boy, cross-dressing side. But I am in it for the cock. I

I never had any desire for natal females; it's always been about cock for me. On both men and ladyboys.

BUT as soon as pretty femmeboy tells me she's total TS and wants to have a poon, identifies 100% as a woman, the whole nine yards, I just can't get into her anymore. Can't really explain why, I just don't want to be with a person who's "all woman". If she lived full-time but both loved her cock and considered herself even 10% "male" (as much as personality can be sexed, anyway), then I'm good. Maybe it's weird, but I figure we're into what we're into.

vampi

03-04-2010, 11:24 PM

I've read in some sexologist website (from Spain) a story from a man who was a shemale fan, that slept with a real men. He said could enjoy the anal sex only and felt great repulsion when he kissed and huged with him. So I think many men who like cocks, don't like men and they have the sensation of having sex with a woman when they're with shemale (they have soft skin, tits, or maybe the smell). Just in this case she has a cock to penetrate or be sucked isn't?

Pentothal

03-09-2010, 09:29 AM

Maybe you know this site about real girls with plastic prosthesis of penis (huge) and cuming a lot of false semen (and when I mean a lot, it's really a lot)
I don't know if I can say the name of the site entire

at first I thought it was bullshit because I like watching porn with girls (between girl and boy or between girls) and I like shemale porn (maybe most between shemales or between shemale and man)
I said to me, it was stupid to watch action with false penis
and in fact it's not so bad

maybe because girls are pretty and act like non professionnal, just as they find this fun
and they do a lot of rubbing, snoodling, sword fight in these videos
but because 2 fakes plastic cocks, the sword fight isn't exciting ?
in fact, I find it really really exciting
I know they are both girls and we can see her pussies (nice little pussies by the way), watching just the enormous cock doesn't excite me
but when these 2 massive cock touch each other and the girls smile (acting as if they had pleasure), god I've a hard on !

(I precise that I've never been excited watching manga with shemales or hermaphrodites)

curious

to be closer to the discussion I would say
that I love girls, and I'm attracted to shemales

I'm probably curious about bisexuality (I have a big fantasay about "cock to cock"), but even if I find some men nice, in life I'm not attracted to them

I have feelings for girls, can be in love for girls
(can I be in love with a tgirl ? I don't really know, maybe because I consider them more like girls than boys)

would I prefer a transsexual operated or no operated ?
for my fantasy, it has no doubt, I would prefer with her cock

for a relationship with love, in real world ?
even if I lost the pleasure of sex with her cock, I think for my partner happiness, it's better that she has been operated to complete the transformation she always desired

beginner

03-09-2010, 01:32 PM

I agree with You. I also have a lovely TS girlfriend and I don't mind what others think. But I somewhat also agree with Franalexes; only that what attracts me in she-males is the SHE with the COCK. And that's the mixture of both that I like. I don't think I'm gay, but if anybody thinks so it just does'nt matter.
Beginner

Whats in a name?.......and does it really matter? If some law was passed that decreed that all "shemale lovers/admirers etc" are now to be classed as being "gay" would you suddenly change? Life's too short to worry about titles and being placed in catagories. Accept who you are and if others can't deal with that, just move on,....and most of all,...enjoy living life to the last second. I have the loveliest TS girlfriend and I bless that day that we met and if that makes me gay, I honestly could'nt give a damn!

smc

03-09-2010, 01:38 PM

Maybe you know this site about real girls with plastic prosthesis of penis (huge) and cuming a lot of false semen (and when I mean a lot, it's really a lot)
I don't know if I can say the name of the site entire

It is absolutely permissible to mention the name of the site. I assume you are referring to futanaria.com

Thanks for sharing your views of your own attractions. It is posts of this sort that really add to the great discussions that we often have here on the Forum.

would I prefer a transsexual operated or no operated ?
for my fantasy, it has no doubt, I would prefer with her cock

for a relationship with love, in real world ?
even if I lost the pleasure of sex with her cock, I think for my partner happiness, it's better that she has been operated to complete the transformation she always desired

Your perspective is both respectful and loving ... a very nice combination. I agree with you wholeheartedly.

f5100

03-15-2010, 12:32 AM

If ever there were a bunch of rationalizations for why a man liking cock is not gay, this thread is surely it.

Exactly.. I am new here so maybe should tread very carefully but have wondered this often myself recently.

Sure can say labels don't matter and don't want to get fucked in the ass (who does?), but in the end its finding a penis attractive.. IMO there is a gay element to that regardless.

aw9725

03-15-2010, 10:06 PM

You have probably read my other postings so you know it doesn’t matter to me if you consider yourself gay or straight. But speaking totally for myself, I am attracted to beautiful women. I was married to a beautiful woman and have always dated attractive women. Not men. Never have, and at 39, probably never will. Just to add something to this discussion I thought I’d post a few pics for you to consider. What has intrigued me is how this discussion keeps coming (no pun intended) back to “the cock” rather than the entire person.

The first two are Foxy Angel (one of my all-time favorites) and Mallory from “Mallory’s Feet” (to me a relative newcomer--and one of the cutest and sexiest girls I’ve ever seen). You can’t “see anything” in either picture--both are very beautiful and extremely feminine--most “straight” men would likely be attracted to either one of them. Don’t you think? I know I am!

Now consider the other two pictures. The first is Bev Francis, a champion bodybuilder. She is also the first woman to officially bench press over 300 lbs. When I was a teenager I followed her like I did “Arnold” and others. Anyway, I remember before I could do “300” myself, thinking “How can a girl do this”? :respect:

The last picture is of course Buck Angel, a well known transman and model. He also obviously works out and has a nice physique. I have read several interviews with him and he seems pretty cool.

Both Bev and Buck have vaginas yet I can say with certainty that I am not sexually attracted to either one--although I like and admire both of them. My question for those who keep insisting that we are all closeted gays is: Why is someone "gay" for liking cute, blond, Mallory (or Kelly Shore for instance)? Is it because she has a “cock”? Then is someone who likes muscular, shaven head, Buck, considered “straight” only because he has a “pussy”? Doesn’t make sense…

My own answer is that human sexuality is much too complex to be categorized and actually tends to fall on a continuum. Perhaps we are predominately gay or straight, but in reality, a little of both. Kinsey, I believe first proposed this idea. The following is taken from the American Psychological Association:

“Sexual orientation is an enduring emotional, romantic, sexual, or affectional attraction toward others. It is easily distinguished from other components of sexuality including biological sex, gender identity (the psychological sense of being male or female), and the social gender role (adherence to cultural norms for feminine and masculine behavior). Sexual orientation exists along a continuum that ranges from exclusive heterosexuality to exclusive homosexuality and includes various forms of bisexuality.”

I think that applies to most of us. LOL! And I think that most importantly we should learn to accept and celebrate who we are. As I’ve said in other posts, “It’s all good”!

Dr. A

cyba

03-16-2010, 06:18 AM

What has intrigued me is how this discussion keeps coming (no pun intended) back to ?the cock? rather than the entire person.
Of course. That's what LBs have (and fems don't.) Otherwise, why would
you bother with an LB?
add
Which isn't to say that they don't have, in addition, attractive 'femininity.'

FMB

03-17-2010, 10:08 AM

http://overanalysis.wordpress.com/tag/house-md/

Enjoy.

valentinetabitha

03-17-2010, 09:36 PM

Anything that cites Wikipedia as a legitimate source is instantly a joke.

FMB

03-17-2010, 09:50 PM

Anything that cites Wikipedia as a legitimate source is instantly a joke.

Far too simplistic way of looking at things. I've used Wikipedia writing essays but cross referenced the facts using other sources. If you just use wikipedia then yeah fair enough. Just because there is some garbage on there it doesn't mean it all is.

SOMEONE NEW

03-18-2010, 07:52 PM

or better yet, are WE gay?

ok so for about a year now i've been extremely turned on by shemales (obviously or i wouldn't be here right now)... but i'm also very attracted to women. i really like the thought of a hard cock and large balls on a very feminine type of girl, it really turns me on. but i am confused because i see these shemales as girls, even though they have dicks. i am also very opposed to the idea of a dick in my ass, i really think it's sick and would never do it, but i would love to stick mine in a shemale. the thought of calling myself "bisexual" or gay annoys me because i don't like men at all. i don't have fantasies about wearing wemon's clothing or anything like that.. the only doubt about myself i have is my love for a women with a long hard cock. i can't talk about this to anyone personally becuase they will think i'm gay, and everyone close to me is opposed to gay things.. especially my friends, because i'm still in high school, and let's just say i'm probably younger than everyone here.

so i was wondering if anyone has similar feelings, or can give me some advice?

I love beautiful shemales too and I have a girlfriend who by way doesn't mind me looking at shemales. I too have a lot of questions!