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So according to you I "...enjoyed the role of victim". Curious that since I try to navigate my life in a way to minimize personal victimization, while still being unashamed in being trans. The result of this is living in ways that expose me to specific "victimization" due solely to my status as a trans woman. I hardly "enjoy" this, but I simply refuse to keep quiet about it. For example, I didn't enjoy having to wait for almost two hours in an airport in Mexico trying to get home because my passport says I'm a man, because my state will not modify my birth certificate. Rather, I was scared shitless because I just didn't know what would happen.

Further, I'm quite curious how you see a trans woman participating in their "victimization"? I mean Nixon was hardly a passive participant in Watergate. Did I choose a pharmacist that would ask REALLY loudly "Why is a guy getting estrogen at THIS dose"? Seriously... we live in a place and time that can be very difficult and complicated for trans women at best. How does one actively participate in holding up that systen while trying to work against it and navigate through it?
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So according to you I "...enjoyed the role of victim". Curious that since I try to navigate my life in a way to minimize personal victimization, while still being unashamed in being trans. The result of this is living in ways that expose me to specific "victimization" due solely to my status as a trans woman. I hardly "enjoy" this, but I simply refuse to keep quiet about it. For example, I didn't enjoy having to wait for almost two hours in an airport in Mexico trying to get home because my passport says I'm a man, because my state will not modify my birth certificate. Rather, I was scared shitless because I just didn't know what would happen.

Further, I'm quite curious how you see a trans woman participating in their "victimization"? I mean Nixon was hardly a passive participant in Watergate. Did I choose a pharmacist that would ask REALLY loudly "Why is a guy getting estrogen at THIS dose"? Seriously... we live in a place and time that can be very difficult and complicated for trans women at best. How does one actively participate in holding up that systen while trying to work against it and navigate through it?
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I need to have an affirmative answer before I really go into this. Because I warn you, it may be very hard to take. An option you may wish to consider is that I answer you in a private message. I am leaving it up to you bacause I do respect you as a good person.
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I need to have an affirmative answer before I really go into this. Because I warn you, it may be very hard to take. An option you may wish to consider is that I answer you in a private message. I am leaving it up to you bacause I do respect you as a good person.
It's your thread, answer however you like - PM or in public.
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Bionca, you are evading the question here. In any case, it's been a long day and I need some sleep and it will take a while to organize my thoughts on this matter and set them down. I don't want to just reply off the cuff on this as many of my answers have been.
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Not sure what question I'm evading. If you think your comments would derail the topic, as it probably will, I think a PM would be an solution I would be open to. If you would prefer to have this happen in the thread, I will read it and respond.
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Ok, here is my question No. 1. (more coming...)

Whats the degree of emotional involvement that separates a Tv from a Tg?

Hint: A Tv just changes getup and attire, while a Tg jumps headlong and goes through the pains of changing her whole body.



Its not a personal question. I'm asking out of academic interest.
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Don't belittle her.

She got insulted when she hadn't even posted to the thread.

If that had happened to me, I wouldn't be too happy about it -- least of all when the person who did it keeps playing games and says I'm "evading" a "question".
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Do you agree that transsexuals are better than transvestites
& do you aspire or wish you were a transsexual?
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& do you aspire or wish you were a transsexual?
Yes I looked it up on the Galactic Better Than web site and transexuals were listed at position 1,342,895 while transvestite were only at position 1,342, 867. A short fat clown with red hair fell in between them at position 1,342, 877.

It is actually a waste of time debating who or what is better in a general sense. It is what is better for you that matters. Some of us have the need to express their fem side only from time to time, while with others; it is a need to live there full time. There is no "better than", there is only what fills your needs. I have to wonder if many full time Tgirls (transexuals) really do feel a sense of superiority to tranvestites, cross-dressers, girly boys, etc. I know some like KittyKaiti and GroobyKrissy come across like they think there is some kind of "pecking order" and they are superior to anybody who is not a full time Tgirl. That whole delusion is reminiscent of some religious folks who think they are "holier than thou."

To that, of course I say, "Nuts!".................. I have to wonder if Kaiti has really thought about what she is saying. She has a history of being put down by her family and others for what she is, and yet she is so ready to condemn others for what she percieves them as being.

I do not aspire or wish that I was a transexual, since that facet of me is only a small part of who I am. On the other hand, being "macho" is a small part also so I don't waste a lot of time persuing that image either. So there I am.......somewhere in the middle.
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It is actually a waste of time debating who or what is better.
.. It is what is better for you that matters. Some of us have the need to express their fem side only from time to time, while with others; it is a need to live there full time. There is no "better than", there is only what fills your needs.

I have to wonder if many full time Tgirls (transexuals) really do feel a sense of superiority to tranvestites, cross-dressers, girly boys, etc.
...they think there is some kind of "pecking order" and they are superior to anybody who is not a full time Tgirl. That whole delusion is reminiscent of some religious folks who think they are "holier than thou."

To that, of course I say, "Nuts!"
Impressive & balanced.
& incidentally my exact view on it as well.
We think EXACTLY the same on this thing, despite being in different places on the gender spectrum.
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