Ask Jenae for real answers - no games.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by TheSkronkDonkey

Totally not cool. Bionca is probably the most articulate, reasoned and intelligent poster on this forum. I also don't think it's fair to randomly slate someone out in the open like you've just done.

I don't think Jenae was being overly rude about Bionca. And I agree, she does frequently play the victim.

[The Conquistador]

Do you think that Nadya Suleman's vagina is a hybrid of the Xenomorph Queen from Aliens and a clown car? Is that how she was able to spawn so many kids?

[tslust]

Originally Posted by TheAngryPostman

Do you think that Nadya Suleman's vagina is a hybrid of the Xenomorph Queen from Aliens and a clown car? Is that how she was able to spawn so many kids?

That's a good question.

[Jenae LaTorque]

Originally Posted by TheAngryPostman

Do you think that Nadya Suleman's vagina is a hybrid of the Xenomorph Queen from Aliens and a clown car? Is that how she was able to spawn so many kids?

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In fact I am pretty sure that is not the case..... Now her uterus probably resembles that of a sow.

The span of human behavior never ceases to amaze me. The whole story really does seem like something out of the cheap tabloids that report on aliens, ghosts, bloodless surgery, etc. doesn't it. I lived with my brother one semester while I was at college and he was an inveterate buyer of tabloids. I never have paid for one myself
but I will admit that I certainly looked at some of his. Even now I do find it entertaining to find their equivalent on the the internet every once in a while.
A memory that brings a chuckle to me every time I recall it; is when I found a web page dealing with "trailer trash". I was laughing so damn hard I literally fell off my chair to the floor. Unfortunately, I have never been able to find it since. That's all for now. I have to try finding that web page again

[The Conquistador]

What does sum tempestas fusca qua perducit terra mean?

[Bionca]

You don't have to answer - obviously, but what have I had that you would consider "playing the victim"?

As far as being depressing, yeah sometimes it's shit being trans - you know, having a Pharmacy worker give you shit for filling a prescription, being stopped in an airport because your DL says F, but your Passport says M, Having the Office of Homeland Security contact your future employer - oh wait no you don't do you... Tracy how about you?

The site is full of pictures of happy little trannies and gets visited by gals who depend on that image for their livelihood. Unfortunately, when I was dating the guys I met almost always believed this was the only aspect to being trans - so I think it's important to kick home some realism.

My sig is pretty basic. Topic after tipic on here was/is about guys being angsty about being gay, or wanting a TG and not having the balls to look, and not really moving from that place. I get that I'm probably going to be braver than most people - but that's not an excuse for some guy to be a craven coward the first time he's confronted with people knowing he's with a trans woman.

[Jenae LaTorque]

Originally Posted by Bionca

You don't have to answer - obviously, but what have I had that you would consider "playing the victim"?

As far as being depressing, yeah sometimes it's shit being trans - you know, having a Pharmacy worker give you shit for filling a prescription, being stopped in an airport because your DL says F, but your Passport says M, Having the Office of Homeland Security contact your future employer - oh wait no you don't do you... Tracy how about you?

The site is full of pictures of happy little trannies and gets visited by gals who depend on that image for their livelihood. Unfortunately, when I was dating the guys I met almost always believed this was the only aspect to being trans - so I think it's important to kick home some realism.

My sig is pretty basic. Topic after tipic on here was/is about guys being angsty about being gay, or wanting a TG and not having the balls to look, and not really moving from that place. I get that I'm probably going to be braver than most people - but that's not an excuse for some guy to be a craven coward the first time he's confronted with people knowing he's with a trans woman.

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All right, all of you. I did not attack Bionca. I did not say she was stupid, unreasonable, or talked mishmash, or picked her nose, or anything like those.
1. I did say I found her depressing which is my overall take on her and I am entitled to state my opinion. Is "depressing" all that bad ? 2. I also said she enjoyed the role of victim -- I did not say she "played" the role of victim, that was said by another. For example, if I said "Richard Nixon had a role in Watergate", does that mean that he was playing? Hell no, it means he was involved in it; he took part, he participated.

Now I am glad that Bionca has some chivalrous knights to come galloping to her defense, but I think she does well enough on her own, although she did mistakenly attribute the "playing" bit to me also. I too have enjoyed her posts as she is informative, articulate, intelligent, and provides a unique viewpoint for this forum, even if it is depressing to me hearing what crap she has had to endure. It is damn depressing to hear about the atrocities of the Nazis in the concentration camps or how the Japenese used the Chinese people as human guinea pigs at Harbin; but I still want to know about them.

I am fully aware that Bionca has an agenda just like we all do. For some on here, that me be that they simply want to "sex chat" while others have loftier subjects on their mind. I do find it interesting that no one had anything to say about Hank. Perhaps Krissy would if she entered into this. Now I really do think Hank is "playing" a role; as agitator, as stirrer of the pot, etc. And that's okay with me as he does keep the dialogue going.

And that is what I'm here for; the connection, preferably the higher minded segment. Sure it's agravating to have to wade through the flotsam to find the jewels but like I know, it comes with the territory. LOL, the silly messages I have gotten. I have even considered taking my pics down and replacing with a generic avatar. But since I feel that they would be like hiding, I don't.

PS Special note to ila - are you sure Bionca never makes a catty or condescending remark? Maybe you best take a closer look at Post#25 above.

[TheSkronkDonkey]

Originally Posted by Jenae LaTorque

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All right, all of you. I did not attack Bionca. I did not say she was stupid, unreasonable, or talked mishmash, or picked her nose, or anything like those.
1. I did say I found her depressing which is my overall take on her and I am entitled to state my opinion. Is "depressing" all that bad ? 2. I also said she enjoyed the role of victim -- I did not say she "played" the role of victim, that was said by another. For example, if I said "Richard Nixon had a role in Watergate", does that mean that he was playing? Hell no, it means he was involved in it; he took part, he participated.

Now I am glad that Bionca has some chivalrous knights to come galloping to her defense, but I think she does well enough on her own, although she did mistakenly attribute the "playing" bit to me also. I too have enjoyed her posts as she is informative, articulate, intelligent, and provides a unique viewpoint for this forum, even if it is depressing to me hearing what crap she has had to endure. It is damn depressing to hear about the atrocities of the Nazis in the concentration camps or how the Japenese used the Chinese people as human guinea pigs at Harbin; but I still want to know about them.

Nixon, Nazis, Japanese?

And here was me thinking this was just about one member choosing to knock another.

You didn't attack Bionca? You didn't imply she plays a role?

This is what you wrote:

As for Bionca - I find her depressing, she seems to enjoy the role of "victim" and I find myself snorting at her signature line about hating being braver than the guys she dates.

"The role of ... "

"Victim" (in quotation marks)

These kinda imply you see her as embellishing or, to use the parlance you disdain, "playing", a role. No?

Further, you rhetorically ask: "Is 'depressing' bad?" Well, you seem to think so ... otherwise, why point it out, as you originally did, about another member? And why claim to "snort" at Bionca's signature?

What you said was very confrontational and smug-sounding. Anyone in their right mind can see that. If you had truly wanted to express yourself in a polite, non-hostile way, you could have added some positives to your original remarks (rather than coming out with some after the fact). Or said nothing at all.

Finally, the claim that Bionca has "chivalrous knights" coming to her defence? Pure jealousy. If Bionca has people willing to defend her, it's because she has engendered herself to them with her words and her deeds. Food for thought.

[Bionca]

So according to you I "...enjoyed the role of victim". Curious that since I try to navigate my life in a way to minimize personal victimization, while still being unashamed in being trans. The result of this is living in ways that expose me to specific "victimization" due solely to my status as a trans woman. I hardly "enjoy" this, but I simply refuse to keep quiet about it. For example, I didn't enjoy having to wait for almost two hours in an airport in Mexico trying to get home because my passport says I'm a man, because my state will not modify my birth certificate. Rather, I was scared shitless because I just didn't know what would happen.

Further, I'm quite curious how you see a trans woman participating in their "victimization"? I mean Nixon was hardly a passive participant in Watergate. Did I choose a pharmacist that would ask REALLY loudly "Why is a guy getting estrogen at THIS dose"? Seriously... we live in a place and time that can be very difficult and complicated for trans women at best. How does one actively participate in holding up that systen while trying to work against it and navigate through it?

[Jenae LaTorque]

Originally Posted by TheAngryPostman

What does sum tempestas fusca qua perducit terra mean?

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hey man there is some heavy shit coming down on you and it's me!

Ya get the point? This is under the category of games and I said no games!

[Be_my_nude]

Originally Posted by TheAngryPostman
What does sum tempestas fusca qua perducit terra mean?

Originally Posted by Jenae LaTorque

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hey man there is some heavy shit coming down on you and it's me!

Ya get the point? This is under the category of games and I said no games!

Seems like a question which requires an answer - I can't think why the AngryPostman might see himself in this role, but still.

My convent education ( such as it was ) hazards a guess at the following translation ( very apocalyptic )
" I am the dark storm that Earth brings on "

Perhaps AngryPostman might enlighten us as to who originally said it and where he got the quote.

[jimbo46]

Why are some female pornstars scared to do movies with a beautiful transexual girls who are very feminine and pretty like Aline Santos, Vanity, and Joanna Jett. I posed the question to Female Pornstar legend Seka and she said she didnt know if she could do a movie with a TS.

[The Conquistador]

Originally Posted by Be_my_nude

Originally Posted by TheAngryPostman
What does sum tempestas fusca qua perducit terra mean?

Seems like a question which requires an answer - I can't think why the AngryPostman might see himself in this role, but still.

My convent education ( such as it was ) hazards a guess at the following translation ( very apocalyptic )
" I am the dark storm that Earth brings on "

Perhaps AngryPostman might enlighten us as to who originally said it and where he got the quote.

I got it from the song "Hunter" by Jesper Kyd.

Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8DK_hethAc

(Apparently) the lyrics are:

Sum tempestas fusca
Qua preducit terra
Nox non decidit
Dies numquam venit
Nihil fugit ame
Sum tempestas fusca

I don't know how accurate the words are or not; I was told that that was what was being said. The person recognised the words but didn't know the meaning of them. Also they didn't know what the female chorus was saying either.

[The Conquistador]

Originally Posted by Be_my_nude

My convent education...

Were you a Catholic schoolgirl by any chance?

[randolph]

Okay Jenae, since this forum is often discussing and looking at cocks (shemale).
I wonder why human males have such large cocks relative to apes. Gorillas have tiny cocks (1 1/2) inches, chimps are 3 inches, man averages 6 inches and up to the record of 13 inches. The human vagina is only 4 inches deep before arousal so why the big cock? Although men like to have a big cock, they don't reproduce so there is no selection there. Men with small cocks seem to have no trouble making women pregnant. The clitoris seems to be an object for pleasure and the cock is an analog of the clitoris. There's no argument that it is a source of pleasure.

[Jenae LaTorque]

I may be sounding like a broken record here, but the answer to both of your questions (Randolph and Rachel) is evolution, that is: NATURE and EVOLUTION.

Randolph --- Like I stated in the reply to your question about women's butts, a big dick is one of the main sexual attractions for women. Just like the female fertility goddess statues we have from antiquity, there are male god statues that emphasize the phallus. In both cases however, neither endowment have achieved the status of being a species wide characteristic since they really don't provide an overwhelming survival advantage. In the case of big dicks this is probally more true - since many people have been wearing clothes for a long time due to the climate they lived in and it was not readily apparent to the chicks who was hung the best.

Rachel --- Nature has dictated that young people are sexually mature around the age of 13, that is; they are able to reproduce themselves. (( Actually, thie age has been steadily moving downward in modern time due to better nutrition and vitimins. Doctors and scientists have noted that many more are entering puberty at younger and younger ages, some as early as 9 yrs of age. )) Many primitive and ancient cultures recognize this and there are rites of puberty or passage to acknowledge the fact. Examples of this would be ceromonial actions such as the bar mitzvah and bat mitzvah for Jewish adolescents. After these rites of passage, they are considered to be men and women. The modern world really does not have a comparable recognition of this fact of nature.

So here we are now in modern times. Our modern culture has required that the end of childhood to be extended due to the need for more and more education, both formal and cultural, to prepare young people for society. You know that it wasn't so very long ago in our history that most young men and women had finished their formal schooling by the ages of 14 to 16. The young men left to work the family farm, or in some cases started their own farm. Others went to work as apprentices. Young women went to work in the occupations that were open to them: domestic service, secretary, teachers, factories, etc while of course many were married and starting families of their own. At the present time, the vast majority remain in school until the age of 17-18 and many of those go onto further education, requiring more years until they are fully accepted as contributing adult members of society.

So what is the status of our young people? On one hand, they have passd through puberty and are no longer children. Their bodies are just like "adults" though younger, AND, in a culture that values youth. Therefore they may just feel a bit superior to the "old folks". As children, they pretty much accepted adult authority. As young adults, they have developed their own mind set. Along the way, they have found many instances where adults were in error, and as the old saying goes: "familiarity breeds contempt". Sure. there are a lot of things they don't know. But that is it. They don't know that they don't know. What they know is that their bodies and their minds tell them that they are grown up, yet; in many instances they are treated like children. CONFLICT!

Now I have observed this conflict over many years and many families. I will tell you one thing I truly believe. If you have not pretty much taught children right from wrong and installed a true respect for adult wisdom by the time they are twelve, you are too late. "The gate is open and the bull is out!" By respect, I mean one that is based on your actions and wisdom, and not alone on punishment. Corporal punishment, within restraints, is fine for younger children as their reasoning power is limited. By the age of thirteen, discipline should usually be replaced by material punishment ie. loss of priviliges, restrictions, etc. This puts matters on a more adult level, that is - it recognizes their capacity for reasoning and places responsibility for their actions on them.

Hmmm, final answer Young people are what we make them. If they grow up with good role models, they generally turn out fine. If there are no respected role models, they are not so good.

[randolph]

Hey Jenae! You are getting cuter all the time.