If police question/detain a black person is it racism?

[lbfno]

[QUOTE=TracyCoxx;96117]Chris Rock - How Not to get your Ass Kicked by the Police


awesome

[violet lightning]

Well how does everyone feel now that the phone transcripts have been released and the "Beer Summit" has taken place?

The caller that phoned in the 911 call stated emphatically that
1.) she didn't know what color, race or age of the people involved, (when pressed, she said one might be Hispanic)
and
2.) She stated clearly that it was very possible that the people were the home owners since they had luggage.

I assume the police were aware of this possibility and it doesn't sound like they barged into his home bent on arresting him.

3.) Turns out that the policeman was an experienced officer and even taught classes on how not to racial profile.

A telling clip is the video taken after the beer summit, when Crowley is shown helping Gates walk as President Obama struts happily toward the cameras, oblivious to whats happening behind him.

As far as I'm concerned, there are good people and assholes. Thats the only differenciation I make. Optimistically, I think most people are good, care about others and just want to live their lives. (80-90 percent?) Hopefully, assholes only make up a small percentage of the population, but boy do they like to fuck things up for everyone.
(hey, I'm starting to sound like "Team America"!
The whole "Dicks fuck assholes" speech..)

[tslust]

Originally Posted by violet lightning

A telling clip is the video taken after the beer summit, when Crowley is shown helping Gates walk as President obama struts happily toward the cameras, oblivious to whats happening behind him.

Ya, I really loved that.

[Jenae LaTorque]

I see this case as one of where two people failed each other. They both made assumptions based on little evidence and failed to give each other the benifit of the doubt. The big problem with people in conflict is that they usually bring a lot of baggage to a meeting. I remember my Grandfather explaining how he felt one time after another driver yelled an obscenity at him on the back road to town. He said something to the effect that since he didn't know that man and that man didn't know him, it was just dust in the wind. He then explained that he could only really get mad at those he knew, and then on rare occasions. And that furthermore it had been his experiance that both sides getting mad only fanned the flames.
I did see him get mad a few times though. And boy could he do it. Once we both saw a man kick a dog for no reason other than it was in his way a bit. By the time Grandpa got done giving that fellow what for, the guy was totally embarassed and very shamefaced. I don't think I've ever heard anybody apologize so much in my life.

You know something. I would suppose for every case that we hear about like this, there are hundreds of cases where the matter is resolved in a courteous manner; at least I hope so.
As for the cop bashing going on here by some, all I can say is you usually only get what you pay for. If the money isn't allocated to attract the best men, and the money isn't allocated to train and counsel them in the proper performance of their duties, then what do you expect. The qualities that are desirable in a good police officer are not found in many men, in fact, I would say damn few. And often the best of what we do get, don't remain on the force. Most of the best police officers I ever knew have moved on to become lawyers, judges, county commisioners, not to mention those who move on to upper level police force management.

Students of history can tell you that we have, on the average, the finest police to ever walk this planet. Check your history books.

[Jenae LaTorque]

A Funny.

Tell them both to kiss and make up, that should determine if there is any racism involved.

[johndowe]

Hi there.

First let's define RACISM; RACISM is discrimination based on race, so a white person who hates blacks is racist, a black person that hates whites is also racist, same as sexism, which is discrimination on the basis of gender, not only against women, because there are alot of women that are sexist, oops i digressed there.

But, while dealing with cops, you are a wize-ass, black or white there is a good chance that you'll end up beeing arrested.

Once i had the cops at my door, they said they had a complain, and asked to come in.

If i would have said no they would have insisted and who knows what could have happened after that, (i am white) but insteadi said: "What is this about?", the cops stayed out and everything was resolved there, it was so insignificant to me that i do not remember what it was all about.

Another thing.

Once i got into an argument with a black guy i knew, he was losing the argument then he sais: "you're on my case because i'm black!" the argument had nothing to do with race and i ansewered him: "No, i'm on your case because you were acting like an idiot", he didn't like that but he knew i was right. Why did he bring up the fact that he was black which was totally irrelevant? Maby to get some sympathy? or more to remind me that he was a "big bad black guy"? Either way it didn't work, but i guess he felt he has to try.

I dealt with that only once and i was a bit putoff by it, i can immagine that cops get it on a very regular basis and are quite tired of it, personally i think it is weak to play the race card every time things don't go your way.

JohnDowe.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by johndowe

But, while dealing with cops, you are a wize-ass, black or white there is a good chance that you'll end up beeing arrested.

This is America. You have every right to be a wise-ass. Especially in your own house!

Originally Posted by johndowe

Once i had the cops at my door, they said they had a complain, and asked to come in.

If i would have said no they would have insisted and who knows what could have happened after that

Absolutely not. Have you heard of the 4th amendment? Look it up.