Post-op shemales; Do they produce semen?

[CuriousGirl]

Originally Posted by transjen

First off there is no such thing as a post-op shemale oncw a shemale has SRS she's female, Now the semen question the answer is NO. i no longer produce any semen Jennifer

Jennifer,

With all due respect, if you still have your prostate you do (or did until it atrpohied due to lack of testosterone) produce semen, most likely in a diminished manner. However, your personal experience, like all individual experiences, is unique to you but not guaranteed to others.
Look at it this way: I know a couple of castrated men and one castrated Asian ladyboy. Both the men produce a weak spurt or dribble of semen when they reach orgasm.
The lady boy also still has her penis, although it's very small, and on a few occasions I have been able to bring "her" to orgasm via oral sex, a vibrator applied her penis, especially under the head, and either of those in conjunction with anal penetration with a finger, vibrator, and most recently, my UNcastrated BF's penis.
If I HAD a penis I'd be drilling away too! Since I'm a genetic female that's out of the question.
So, since a post-op (OK, female/ex male) still retains her prostate and the level of hormone deprivation is the same as with a castrated male, it stands to reason that, especially early on post-surgery, semen will still be produced AND at least some will be expelled from the urethral opening.
Finally...I did some serious interrogation, via phone, of my Asian treasure. "She" states that she's seen semen produced by her post-op friends on several occasions, although only once was it expelled in spurts, the rest being evidenced by oozing or dribbling.
Firm prostate massaging alone will usually force some semen out even with no orgasm occurring (got this from male friends who've had prostate exams.)
So, after much research apart from this thread and a lot of it after I first posed the question, the answer is "Yes. Some 'female'/post-ops DO produce visible ejaculate to one degree or another.

[Ronh47]

QUOTE=CuriousGirl

So, since a post-op (OK, female/ex male) still retains her prostate and the level of hormone deprivation is the same as with a castrated male, it stands to reason that, especially early on post-surgery, semen will still be produced AND at least some will be expelled from the urethral opening.



I don't totally agree with your idea about a post-op lady and a castrated male having the same amount of hormone deprivation. Does it stand to reason a post-op lady is most likely taking estrogen and a castrated male isn't? If normal female levels of estrogen are present, wouldn't the adrenal gland be influenced to produce less testosterone by the hypothalamus (GnRH) and the pituitary gland (luteinizing hormone) actions? I understood that was the way the body regulated the amount of testosterone in the body.

I'm not saying there can't be any ejaculatory fluid even with the testosterone level further reduced by estrogen HRT, but it might be less than a castrated male with no HRT.

[aa2239]

I'll throw in my two cents too....

Having dated a post-op shemale for a few months, I can confirm that she DID still experience orgasms during anal penetration, and she DID produce some secretion from her man-made vagina, a small amount.

At the time I met her, she had been post-op for several years, so I don't know if she had to "redevelop" her orgasm over time, or anything like that. We didn't have vaginal sex very often, mainly because I found her man-made vagina to be quite tight, a bit shallow, and poorly lubricated... I'm a relatively big guy. Furthermore, she enjoyed anal sex much more anyway, no doubt because it offered better access to her prostate. When she came, her vagina became a bit wetter, but generally the secretions were on a very small scale.

Hope that helps clear things up a bit! :-)

[rosefrany]

Originally Posted by aa2239

I'll throw in my two cents too....

Having dated a post-op shemale for a few months, I can confirm that she DID still experience orgasms during anal penetration, and she DID produce some secretion from her man-made vagina, a small amount.

At the time I met her, she had been post-op for several years, so I don't know if she had to "redevelop" her orgasm over time, or anything like that. We didn't have vaginal sex very often, mainly because I found her man-made vagina to be quite tight, a bit shallow, and poorly lubricated... I'm a relatively big guy. Furthermore, she enjoyed anal sex much more anyway, no doubt because it offered better access to her prostate. When she came, her vagina became a bit wetter, but generally the secretions were on a very small scale.

Hope that helps clear things up a bit! :-)

Thanks for the very illustrative and informative post

[racquel]

First off, I seriously doubt you're telling the truth about your relationship with a shemale because if you were you wouldn't likely refer to her as a "shemale" and you also wouldn't likely refer to orchiectomy as "castration." But I'll play along.

Originally Posted by CuriousGirl

My "personal" Thai ladyboy has been castrated, as of four or five years ago, but she still has her tiny and beautiful penis and DOES manage a dribble or two when she orgasms.

You do realize that "post-op" simply means that the penis has been removed and the neo-vagina formed, right? So there is absolutely no difference between your post-orci friend and a post-SRS girl in terms of ability to produce semen.

So the answer to your question is that most girls don't. Most girls start having dry orgasms from HRT long before they get SRS, but some do make a little (like your friend).

Originally Posted by CuriousGirl

OK...you're wrong.
Nowhere have I read or heard that post-ops have their prostates removed. While to do so would make 100% certain they'd never develop prostate cancer it would also mean that they be even less likely to have orgasms since the penis of a lover rubbing the prostate is usually an orgasmic trigger in them and gay men as well.
Ergo, a post-op who retains her prostate might at least produce semen even if only via penile pressure on that gland without an actual orgasm occurring.
Again, IF a post-op does manage an orgasm the same contractions of the prostate that any other male experiences might occur and thus some semen, however thin and sparse, should result whether forcefully ejected or in a dribble.
What I'm seeking is authoritative proof, hopefully including video evidence.

The whole reason SRS doesn't involve removing the prostate is that there's no point. According to all the gay men I've talked to the prostate is not an orgasmic trigger in most people. I personally think it's extremely uncomfortable having something jammed into it. Just because someone can orgasm without penile contact doesn't mean the trigger is the prostate. And seeing as HRT shrinks your prostate very quickly, even if it did give you an orgasm before it might not anymore.

Again I have to question how much time you've spent with t-girls if you would say something as offensive as "any other male."

Originally Posted by CuriousGirl

Male "Pre-Cum is produced by the "Cowper's Glands" and is a naturally occurring lubricant, the equivalent of the honey my pussy produces when I'm "interested". That comes from "Bartholin's Glands",. BTW, and I'm glad I have them except for times when something so turns me on that it can cause me embarassment in public by wetting my garments. Better wear a skirt and maybe a tampon when that happens.

At this point your whole persona seems bogus. A woman would never say that. Better wear a skirt? WTF are you talking about? Either you're a man or you're a borderline retarded woman. Do you have any idea how tampons work? You obviously don't understand the anatomy of the vagina. When you put a tampon in, you insert it pretty far. That's why they have a string on them. The urethra and all the glands that lubricate the vagina are towards the outside. A tampon stays above all that, so it's not going to keep you from getting wet. Do you know that girls can pee with tampons in?

Originally Posted by CuriousGirl

So, since a post-op (OK, female/ex male) still retains her prostate and the level of hormone deprivation is the same as with a castrated male, it stands to reason that, especially early on post-surgery, semen will still be produced AND at least some will be expelled from the urethral opening.

You're wrong because most t-girls are on hormones for several years before surgery and are long since dried up. Yes, some still produce semen, but most of the functional t-girls you see in porn producing semen are not actually on hormones. A standard hormone regimen makes most t-girls stop producing semen in 3 to 6 months. I've been on HRT for about 1.5 years and produce semen, but I am not the norm (and I take about half the spiro that most t-girls do).


You're pretty clueless. The least you could do is be less condescending. You think you're some kind of genius just because you know the difference between sperm and semen? Well congratulations. But when most people say "sperm" they mean "semen." You can point out the difference without being an ass.

[Amy]

Originally Posted by racquel

A standard hormone regimen makes most t-girls stop producing semen in 3 to 6 months.

"your mileage may vary"

In my time on hormones, I have still produced just as much fluid. The only difference is in how it went from being really thick, to practically being water.

[Mika]

For me, I'm producing very little fluid (about a drop or two at best). It's also completely clear even though I'm currently pre-op. I do notice, however, that the amount may be slightly more if I go a few days without milking off. Just my two cents.

[timhaas]

Originally Posted by CuriousGirl

I know a couple of castrated men and one castrated Asian ladyboy.

Dear CuriousGirl, can you share some pictures of your Asian treasure?
You spoke about her several times in various threads, so I'm very eager to see whom you are talking about!