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In my life i've known 2 different kinds of intolerance. The first kind hates all the differences and think they're perversions; the second kind confuses difference with illness and think we are sick.
The first kind of intolerance is typical of many moralists and of the "religious" people. The second is typical of some "good idiots", who always worry about you and always feel sorry for you.
The first kind of intolerance can be terrible, but the second is more dangerous and insidious, because it assumes the appareance of the compassion and of the pity. I think the second kind is even worse than the first. These idiots think you're ill only because you are "different" and more open-minded than they are. I'm not ill and don't want their stupid pity. Love for shemales is a wonderful feeling, bordering on the human aspiration to beauty, completeness and perfection. Homophobia and stupidity are the real illnesses.
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In my life i've known 2 different kinds of intolerance. The first kind hates all the differences and think they're perversions; the second kind confuses difference with illness and think we are sick.
The first kind of intolerance is typical of many moralists and of the "religious" people. The second is typical of some "good idiots", who always worry about you and always feel sorry for you.
The first kind of intolerance can be terrible, but the second is more dangerous and insidious, because it assumes the appareance of the compassion and of the pity. I think the second kind is even worse than the first. These idiots think you're ill only because you are "different" and more open-minded than they are. I'm not ill and don't want their stupid pity. Love for shemales is a wonderful feeling, bordering on the human aspiration to beauty, completeness and perfection. Homophobia and stupidity are the real illnesses.
i agree. religion is 100% construed by mankind anyway. there is no proof as to what they say is really what god is saying. if shemales were so wrong then god wouldnt have made people that way, and would not have made them attractive and desirable to us. shemales are the ultimate partners in my opinion. they have all the good aspects of both genders and very few of the bad aspects. let the shemale revolution begin!!
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i am no lover of religion, but let us (the non-religious people) not get smug. atheists can be as intolerant as any fanatical religious maniac. a short look at the 20th century says enough. to be truly tolerant is not easy. every day, every moment we have to check our attitude to others.
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i am no lover of religion, but let us (the non-religious people) not get smug. atheists can be as intolerant as any fanatical religious maniac. a short look at the 20th century says enough. to be truly tolerant is not easy. every day, every moment we have to check our attitude to others.
My friend, this is not matter of religion and atheism ( i'm a neo-pagan and my God is the Nature ). The problem is the intolerance of the religious people towards all the sexual differences. The priestly caste always persecuted the "deviants", and we, from their point of view, ARE deviants. I live in Italy and ensure you that the catholic church, in her large majority, hate the homosexuals and transsexuals in a terrible way. And even worse are the religious people who repute us ill and want to "cure" us. You say we have to be tolerant, but our opponents are not tolerant. We have to fight hardly for our rights.
"Conformity" and intolerance are the worst enemies of happyness. Look at some islamic countries, where homosexuals suffer the death sentence. We must defend our happiness against the priestly caste.

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i'm a neo-pagan and my God is the Nature
dang hippy!!! just kidding man if thats your belief then i respect it

i agree. the argument is not about religions. i mean i am partly catholic (raised with 1 or 2 catholic beliefs but was never baptised and never went to church), and i love shemales. im not just catholic though - my beliefs are of an unclassified religion. i believe that, while god watches over us all and loves us all, s/he doesn't interfere with the daily workings of our world at all. i believe every single so called 'phenomenon' in the world has a scientific and factual explanation. take, for example, the fish that rained from the sky. it's simple science. it was hot, alot of water was evaporated and so were fish eggs that were in that water, the eggs hatched and the fish grew in the clouds, then they fell out of the clouds when it rained.

but im getting off track. this isn't a debate on religions or beliefs. this is a discussion on the narrow mindedness, ignorance, and stubbornness of people who refuse to believe that what we feel for shemales is completely natural and normal
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dang hippy!!! just kidding man if thats your belief then i respect it

i agree. the argument is not about religions. i mean i am partly catholic (raised with 1 or 2 catholic beliefs but was never baptised and never went to church), and i love shemales. im not just catholic though - my beliefs are of an unclassified religion. i believe that, while god watches over us all and loves us all, s/he doesn't interfere with the daily workings of our world at all. i believe every single so called 'phenomenon' in the world has a scientific and factual explanation. take, for example, the fish that rained from the sky. it's simple science. it was hot, alot of water was evaporated and so were fish eggs that were in that water, the eggs hatched and the fish grew in the clouds, then they fell out of the clouds when it rained.

but im getting off track. this isn't a debate on religions or beliefs. this is a discussion on the narrow mindedness, ignorance, and stubbornness of people who refuse to believe that what we feel for shemales is completely natural and normal


Not more kidding than the belief in a "personal" God who always looks at us, my friend ! I adore REAL things ! :D. But let's abandon the religious issues ...
I'm quite optimistic about the problem of the intolerance against the sexual differences. I see great and important progresses in all the West-Europe.
Perhaps the intolerance of the idiots will move on others, different objectives.
The most important thing is we all are proud of our choices and keep fighting for our rights.
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I grew up without my father my mother brought me up alone.
I have great respect for her, but she had me when she was older and is of the older generation and she has many inbuilt predujices towards race and sexuality.
I think a lot of older people have this drummed into them from an early age through fear and ignorance of something different and see homosexuality as dangerous and abnormal.
We have had many arguments over the years about gays and race but as shes got older and wiser she has become a little more understanding and tolerant.

If she knew of my liking for shemales i think she would not understand and be upset over it, but i know she would not shun me and would eventually accept it.
However elio, as i think you know my liking for shemales dose not extend to waning to marry or live with one, I'm more interested in sexual adventure and it's not a major part of my life, so i don't see the need to upset her about it.

For you obviously it is different as you are very serious about your relationship and i think is a great shame your family will not accept this important part of your life.
This fear and intolerance has been passed down through the generations the world is full of hate and prejudice, people need to be educated.

Society is slowly changing and different sexual preference's are becoming more accepted, but its slow progress, in some places more than others.
If I'm honest this slow progress is in part due to millions of people like me, I'm ashamed to say.
To afraid to own up about there "unusual" sexual tastes, to frightened to speak out against the crowd or there peers, when sneers and jokes are made against homosexuals.
Over the years i have become little more brave in speaking up when race hate rears its ugly head, but i would have a very hard time coping with sneers and constant jokes from my friends and colleagues about my sexual desires.
So i guess that makes m a hypocrite and a coward too.

I have to say elio i admire your courage telling your intolerant family about your sexual preferences and for your determination do do exactly what you want in a very intolerant country.
It must be a very tough for you my friend.

If everybody admitted there true desires i belive homosexuality, bisexuality etc would make up an extremely large part of each community, but were all too afraid to come out.

As for religion, I'm an atheist, i belive religion is a big part of all that is wrong in this world, and religious people are some of the most hypocritical people you could meet.
Many church leaders chose to pick out and distort various religious beliefs for whatever is needed for their cause, be it war, intolerance of sexual preference or the division of various cultures or believes.

The poorest community in the world are seduced and sedated by the promise of everlasting heavenly paradise in the afterlife.
Believing their dire existence is a test provided by god and the focus of their plight taken away from the true culprits, corrupt governments, politicians, generals and churches.

Well that's just my opinion anyway, rant over with.
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