Where are you politically?

[racquel]

Originally Posted by Rachel

You are correct in that I am a genius. IQ of 152 says so.

Well that sucks. My IQ was only 147 when I took the test.

IQ is a joke, though, and I've certainly never brought up my IQ to try and defend my position on anything. You could have an IQ of 200 if you were 6 and tested at a 12-year-old level, but you could spend the rest of your life not learning a thing, so then you're a "genius" who's as smart as a 12-year-old.

As far as your statements are concerned, it doesn't matter what you got on any IQ test. Your logic is flawed.

How can you even bring up the Constitution and defend Bush? They could ban all guns today and it still wouldn't be as gross a violation of the Constitution as the Patriot Act was.

For the record, I live in Dayton, Ohio, and I keep a 20-gauge by my bed and often carry a 9mm. If you actually look at what the 2nd Ammendment is saying, though, it's not really about personal protection. It's about average citizens being armed to protect a "free state," meaning the tyranny of a corrupt government. I certainly don't agree with the theory that the 2nd Amendment doesn't apply because we don't need a militia.

All politicians are corrupt, but certainly Obama can't be as corrupt as Bush. You are a complete fool if you thought it was a good idea to vote for a Republican who is OK with Bush burning the entire Constitution just because you think Obama wants to take your guns away. That is not true. Obama has never spoken out for gun control. He never made much of an issue out of it. When he was pressed to make a statement, Obama said:

"I think it's important for us to recognize that we've got a tradition of handgun ownership and gun ownership generally. And a lot of law-abiding citizens use it for hunting, for sportsmanship, and for protecting their families. We also have a violence on the streets that is the result of illegal handgun usage. And so I think there is nothing wrong with a community saying we are going to take those illegal handguns off the streets. And cracking down on the various loopholes that exist in terms of background checks for children, the mentally ill. We can have reasonable, thoughtful gun control measure that I think respect the Second Amendment and people's traditions."

Gun control isn't the most important issue in the world. In case you didn't notice, we actually have less gun control than we had a few years ago. Obama is for the states having control over gun issues, and it is because of that kind of a policy that I was able to get a carry permit in Ohio. So I've got four guns, I've got 33-round magazines for them, I've got hollow-point ammo that isn't legal to use in a war but is legal for me to carry. My shotgun is basically sawed-off, with an 18" barrel and a pistol grip, and that's perfectly legal. It cost me $75 for a concealed carry permit. A friend of mine just told me that it only cost him $200 to get a permit to use a silencer. Who the hell needs that??? But it's legal. And you're worried about gun control? Then go buy an assault rifle while you can, psycho.

Of course, I think people who say Obama is going to fix all the problems in the country are totally ignorant, too, but that's a different story...

Originally Posted by Rachel

If anything illegal was done then how come G W Bush hasnt been impeached? Seems I recall the last Democrat in the White House was impeached. Hmmmm? And which question are you referring to Tal?

That depends on what you mean by "impeached." He was charged by the House then acquitted by the Senate.

You honestly think Bush didn't do anything wrong? He started a war! He started a war under a totally false pretense. He put people in charge like Rumsfeld who directly defied the Pentagon over and over again when they told him what they would have to do to accomplish anything in Iraq. He supported people like Cheney who funneled most of the money going to Iraq into a company which he owns stock in. He demanded that this recent $2 trillion in handouts would have absolutely no oversight and nobody can be prosecuted for using those funds illegally.

You want to talk about destroying the Constitution? Do you know what an interpretive signing statement is? Basically, every time Congress passes a bill and gives it to Bush, he doesn't just pass it. He doesn't just veto it (then they could push it through with another vote). He rewrites it himself with a signing statement, which amounts to him interpreting it himself and saying that anything he doesn't like doesn't apply. Bush has written over 100 signing statements re-interpreting over 1,000 laws.

Originally Posted by Talvenada

What about ALL the constitutional abortions of the current occupant of The WH? Like wiretapping?

I think Constitutional abortion is a pretty good thing to call it

Seriously, I'm amazed at the ability of people with an agenda to be in complete denial about reality.

[Rachel]

Wow that was some essay. You must have been the smartest person in jail.

[ila]

Carry on with your discussion, but stop the derogatory comments about each other.

[franalexes]

IQ. Half the people are below average.

[randolph]

Originally Posted by franalexes

IQ. Half the people are below average.

Yes, they are the ones that voted for Bush!

[liesjeversteven]

That anyone after the last eight years can still support Bush is simply absurd. With all respect, Rachel, have you been living on another planet?

[jimnaseum]

Gun Control, abortion, stem cells, religion, immigration, the politicians laugh at that stuff. It's all about the MONEY! You don't need to be a genius to figure that out!

[Rachel]

Originally Posted by liesjeversteven

That anyone after the last eight years can still support Bush is simply absurd. With all respect, Rachel, have you been living on another planet?

No dear I live in America. And I support MY President no matter who he is. When he's out of office then I may have things to say about him. Until then...

[franalexes]

Gun Control, abortion, stem cells, religion, immigration, the politicians laugh at that stuff. It's all about the MONEY! You don't need to be a genius to figure that out!( see post above)

Oh yes, we all in America take political advice from Europeans. ( gi'me a freakin' break!)

[Rachel]

Originally Posted by ila

Carry on with your discussion, but stop the derogatory comments about each other.

Hey! She started it with the name calling not me! Glad I got in the knockout shot though lol

[racquel]

Originally Posted by Rachel

Hey! She started it with the name calling not me! Glad I got in the knockout shot though lol

The only thing I called you was a genius. You should be happy.

What's this about a "knockout shot"? Wouldn't that require an actual rebuttal? The only knockout was what your witty ad hominem did to your credibility. And then you "lol" me? You sound like a 14-year-old boy who spent too much time listening to his pickup-drivin' lifetime-NRA-membership-havin' dad. You don't even have an argument, just a couple things you've heard other people say which you don't understand and can't defend. If you are TS, up your spiro and use that brain of yours.

That's fine if you're a Republican, but don't you have anything to say besides bragging about your IQ and about Clinton being impeached? That makes about as much sense as arguing that Obama is stupid because he's black and Flavor Flav is a fuck-up.

[Rachel]

Originally Posted by racquel

The only thing I called you was a genius. You should be happy.

What's this about a "knockout shot"? Wouldn't that require an actual rebuttal? The only knockout was what your witty ad hominem did to your credibility. And then you "lol" me? You sound like a 14-year-old boy who spent too much time listening to his pickup-drivin' lifetime-NRA-membership-havin' dad. You don't even have an argument, just a couple things you've heard other people say which you don't understand and can't defend. If you are TS, up your spiro and use that brain of yours.

That's fine if you're a Republican, but don't you have anything to say besides bragging about your IQ and about Clinton being impeached? That makes about as much sense as arguing that Obama is stupid because he's black and Flavor Flav is a fuck-up.

Your so messed up you dont even remember what you said. You called me a psycho. Does that ring a bell? Scroll back and read one of your lengthy essays. My credibility is just fine thanks. However yours is down the toilet. Any testimony of yours wouldnt stand up in court. In Bianca's thread you state and I qoute, "the last time I was arrested" so apparantly there has been more then one time. Then you mention your probation officer. Hmmm ,I find it hard to believe that they issued you a CCW permit.

[racquel]

Originally Posted by Rachel

Your so messed up you dont even remember what you said. You called me a psycho. Does that ring a bell? Scroll back and read one of your lengthy essays. My credibility is just fine thanks. However yours is down the toilet. Any testimony of yours wouldnt stand up in court. In Bianca's thread you state and I qoute, "the last time I was arrested" so apparantly there has been more then one time. Then you mention your probation officer. Hmmm ,I find it hard to believe that they issued you a CCW permit.

Why don't you look at the context in which I said "psycho" and see if you can refute any of it?

Yes, I've been arrested. I don't know an American tgirl who hasn't been. And I said probation officer, not parole officer. I've never gotten a felony. I can still vote and pass a background check. This isn't even relevant, though. You've really raised the bar by pressing the issue. I've never met a bigot tranny before.

This thread is about politics, and you still haven't said a single thing to defend the political nonsense you've posted here. You like to respond by going totally off topic. You're confused if you think that makes you look smart.

Originally Posted by Rachel

No dear I live in America. And I support MY President no matter who he is. When he's out of office then I may have things to say about him. Until then...

The Patriot Act, the invasion of Iraq, and the gross misappropriation of $2 trillion of the country's money are each plenty to make a rational person stop supporting the president. At what point does he lose your support?

How's it feel to support a president who says the Bill of Rights doesn't apply to the LGBT community? Are you some kind of self-loathing transsexual?

Does this mean you supported Clinton, even after you found out he liked to pull his cock out in front of interns?

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by Rachel

Hey! She started it with the name calling not me! Glad I got in the knockout shot though lol

Ooooh girl fight. Tracy sits back to watch the biting and scratches that will surely turn to es and t-girl / t-girl

[purplehead]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Ooooh girl fight. Tracy sits back to watch the biting and scratches that will surely turn to es and t-girl / t-girl

Maybe a sword fight is in the cards.