What do you think about that?

[Cyborg]

I noticed on another forum (perhaps some of you are active there) t-girls calling guys trannychasers, fags or t-girls and guys calling other girls dudes. There is lots of hate, prejudice, jelousy and lack of solidarity inside of "this world".

[Bionca]

Originally Posted by Cyborg

I noticed on another forum (perhaps some of you are active there) t-girls calling guys trannychasers, fags or t-girls and guys calling other girls dudes. There is lots of hate, prejudice, jelousy and lack of solidarity inside of "this world".

Well, yes and no. It depends where you go. Since most places where guys and TGs hang out together are in some way linked to the adult industry, you are going to find gals who slag eachother out of jealousy, competition, misunderstandings..etc. You also have some gals who are so caught up in what society expects from women that they adopt and run with an inflated bitchy "drag queen" attitude and don't really let it go. So, rather alot like GGs.

ANY guy who referred to me or one of my sisters (even if I hated her guts) as a "dude" would be right off my list of potential dates, and would (in my opinion be a fag (an I do love the gay boys, I just don't date them). They would also get a rather public blasting from me.

However, transwomen's catfights on Internet MBs shouldn't be used to diminish the fact that men by and large are scared shitless to sack up and tell people they like T-gals. At the same time T-gals have to do the work of convincing the world that our identies are valid, our lives are real, and once that is done that we are worthy of respect.

August through September this past year 5 Transwomen in the US and the UK were murdered by men who had sex with them. The silence of men who date/love/fuck gals like me is a shout to men like this that they are justified in their violence, that they can (and usually do) get away with it, that fucking a tranny is so horrible that the object of the attraction must die.

To pull out the old ACT UP slogan...

SILENCE=DEATH

But you know, only death for the women, while the men just get a new round of tranny whores to fulfill their fantasy when nobody is looking.

[Bionca]

I know that comming to terms with an attraction to a trans woman can be difficult. I get all that, and I know that I just came off sounding pretty angry (and I am). I'm not angry at anyone here, or at men general. I'm angry at the fact that I don't see very many men who support their Trans girlfriend as an openly Trans person.

When you have guys posting on Ladyboy69 about the "walk of shame" and feeling awkward taking their LB past the hotel reception desk to their rooms - in Thailand!!!!!! I just have to wonder. If these dudes can't be secure with their attraction 1000's of miles away from home in a culture that is pretty suportive of the LBs when/how will they?

[Alien]

Wow, deep discussion going on here. I think we are all created equally so we should learn to love and respect!

[ila]

Originally Posted by Bionca

I know that comming to terms with an attraction to a trans woman can be difficult. I get all that, and I know that I just came off sounding pretty angry (and I am). I'm not angry at anyone here, or at men general. I'm angry at the fact that I don't see very many men who support their Trans girlfriend as an openly Trans person.

When you have guys posting on Ladyboy69 about the "walk of shame" and feeling awkward taking their LB past the hotel reception desk to their rooms - in Thailand!!!!!! I just have to wonder. If these dudes can't be secure with their attraction 1000's of miles away from home in a culture that is pretty suportive of the LBs when/how will they?

Bionca I live in the middle of redneck country. If I had a Transgirlfriend I would walk down the street holding her hand and openly showing my affection for her.

[Bionca]

Originally Posted by ila

Bionca I live in the middle of redneck country. If I had a Transgirlfriend I would walk down the street holding her hand and openly showing my affection for her.

And from what I see on the Internet and in life, you and a very few others are the exception. Obviously ther are fantastic guys, otherwise I would not have been watching my friend Sarah getting married on youtube.

Maybe I should be more sensitive to the many trials that guys have in the world when they meet a transwoman. I sometimes need to check myself. I forget that the stupid BS I went through years ago just to survive to today is still pretty new to you all.