remember this is only an opinion

[Bionca]

Originally Posted by guest

being a man, i can only see things from a very limited view.

you know what, i don't know shit to be honest.

i do know, though, that i am attracted to the male organ called the penis. this male organ, however, is only attractive when placed on a certain type of body, which is by no means the typical male body.

the sentance "i am attracted to the male organ called the penis" is something (assumingly) most of you here, deep down inside, should come to acceptance with.

i'm not just making this thread to call you all fags, that's not the purpose at all. i am just speaking realistically.

i don't want to get lost in a fantasy world where a third sex exists, so in a way, this is just my way of keeping my sanity.

i'm not trying to be an ass to anyone but the above sentance reminded me of everything blueraven always has to say on this forum. if you read this don't be offended, i'm just voicing a very insignificant opinion.

from the stuff i read from some of the wonderful people here, it seems as though many are stuck in some sort of world where they force themselves to believe that they are not looking at men. as if it's something to be ashamed of? they force themselves to believe that there is this imaginary gender exists and completely block out every thought of past male existance..

i was thinking like this for a few weeks until i snapped out of it. i realized, yes, i am attracted to men, but they are not your ordinary men. they are women now in a sense, but honestly you can never simply block out the past, that's just insanity if you ask me. one should realize their identity, who they were and who they are now, it just makes it more beutiful in my opinion.

once again, i am simply another part of the masses, my thoughts are insignificant and theres no reason to argue about anything i have said.

It seems that, to you, gender is defined by birth genetalia. If that makes you comfortable with your specific fetishization of a Trans*woman's body - I suppose that's swell.

Unfortunately your "fantasy world" is my lived relaity. I think it may be good idea to listen to trans*women and how they talk about their childhoods and pasts and their personal identities. Otherwise, you are in essence calling how I perceived and understod my childhood through today as some sort of delusion.

that's not what i meant to say.

just remember that i'm some dude you will probably never meet, does my opinion matter to you? i hope it doesn't. i really do, because i am no one.

another thing i believe in is always be proud of who you are no matter what the masses say.

there's only one of you, out of the whole fucking world, theres only one YOU. be who you are, fuck the rest and what they think, find someone who understands, and if no one understands fuck them, just do what makes you happy.

whether it be me who disagrees with your views, or your neighbor, fuck them. i mean, be cool about it, but don't mind their opinion.

and again, i didn't mean to cause anyone any trouble i was just expressing myself. i hope you find happiness bionca

[local]

I'm a "straight" male, with no interest in guy guys. Even TS ladies who are not passable are not really interesting. But time melts away with adoring a beautiful lady with a nice package. I really can't explain it. Once or twice I looked up "Are you gay if attracted to transexuals?" but it really became irrelevant. A label means nothing. I am comfortable in how I view the world and don't need anyone's definition to make sense of it. Enjoy and be comfortable in who you are and how you are.

[tomvan20000]

I had to swallow my pride the first time i admitted it, but yes, i am attracted to gay men who look,walk,talk,and act like women

[Jenae LaTorque]

Word are just words; an attempt to convey the essnce of something in a verbal maner whether it be the spoken word or the written word. A simple label does not begin to convey the total essence of anything. Many times it just conveys the basic nature of something. That is why we have so many words; we need them to convey a more complete meaning.

Example: ring - finger ring - gold finger ring - gold wedding ring - gold wedding ring with a diamond - fashion designer gold wedding ring with a 2 carat diamond - Brusholtz gold wedding ring with a 2 carat marquise pink diamond ---- Original Brusholtz unique custom designed Black Hills Gold wedding ring with a 2.13 carat pink marquise Kimberly diamond set in Euro style prongs.

And yet, at times, it will be referred to as a "ring" or maybe even as a "nosering"

So, the bottom line is that: it is NOT that simple!

There is a broad spectrum of characteristics that typify humans and many of those are self-determined: Evil vs good, kind vs mean, honest vs dishonest, slut vs goody two shoes, etc..... And everyone of us has a place where we draw a line to differentiate behaviors. This is of course dependant on the views that we have developed to date in our lives. It is important to not become locked in our views on any matter. So what is a man? What is a woman? I believe it is a matter of the true essence of a person, not whatever simplistic label (word) we use. I try to, and I urge everyone to look past the labels and see as much of the person as you can.

Note: Labels are often used by those with an intent to sway your thinking or often just to keep you from thinking for yourself. They say, "Kill the Red" not: "Kill the communist sympathizer who is a kind father to his children, loves his wife, gives alms to the poor, saved his comrades life, never stole, lied , or cheated anyone."

Look past simple While it is easier to label things, keep in mind that labels often fail to convey the true essence.

[StrayLight_SK]

Originally Posted by Jenae LaTorque

Word are just words; an attempt to convey the essnce of something in a verbal maner whether it be the spoken word or the written word.

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Look past simple While it is easier to label things, keep in mind that labels often fail to convey the true essence.

Attaching a label to sexual activities is like attaching a label to music. When the Rolling Stones do "The Girl With the Far Away Eyes" is the biggest Rock and Roll act on the planet going "country" or did they just come up with a clever hook and standard I - IV - V pattern to showcase Ronnie Wood's pedal steel skills?

If instead, Ronnie had of played the lick on a Strat, would the song then have been labeled Rock.

My point is: There is two kinds of music - music that is good, and music that is not so good. Ergo: There is sex that is good and sex that is not so good. Why must we obsess over the genitalia arrangement?

Somebody famous and quotable (and probably dead) said: "As long as there is an Us and Them, there can never be a We."

[time9]

I love when someone tries to make things black and white because "black and white" have more shades than any other colors! :-[)>