remember this is only an opinion

[Bionca]

I guess it depends on what make one a "man" and a "woman". Is being female a factor of genetalia? Is being male having a Y chromosome? Is gender related to a person's emotional makeup? Is being trans* related to an individuals understandng of themselves? Is it a complicated combination of all of the aboved and other stuff I didn't mention?

On one level, yes, a man who is attracted to me is attracted to someone who was born male. Society will consider the attraction homosexual. On another level I have never in my live ever understood myself to be a man or a boy. I lived as a gay man for a few years, and it was not a correct identification of who I was/am.

It is part of the complicated nature of both being and being attracted to a trans* woman. I have a past spent as a man - being seen as and reacted to as a man. That is a part of life I am not ashamed of and expect to be respected by my partners and friends. However, I also have a present where I am seen as a reacted to as a woman.

I am Trans - I am more than a "chick with a dick". I am a woman with a male past. I am a man with a female present. I am a woman from birth who was made to pretend to be a guy. I am a gay man and a straight woman at the same time. I am neither male nor female and both at once.

It is difficult for me - as someone who has lived through it to understand sometimes. So, you are both totally right and totally wrong.

[Ogryn1313]

This is a confusing enough thing for me to figure out and come to terms with. People would call me gay, queer, fag, fruit, fairy or any other of the 1000's of derogatory words. Am I? I don't know. I don't care any more either. I am what I am and like what I like. People who don't wish to accept me for it can kindly eat the peanuts out of my poo for all I care.

being a man, i can only see things from a very limited view.

you know what, i don't know shit to be honest.

i do know, though, that i am attracted to the male organ called the penis. this male organ, however, is only attractive when placed on a certain type of body, which is by no means the typical male body.

the sentance "i am attracted to the male organ called the penis" is something (assumingly) most of you here, deep down inside, should come to acceptance with.

i'm not just making this thread to call you all fags, that's not the purpose at all. i am just speaking realistically.

i don't want to get lost in a fantasy world where a third sex exists, so in a way, this is just my way of keeping my sanity.

i'm not trying to be an ass to anyone but the above sentance reminded me of everything blueraven always has to say on this forum. if you read this don't be offended, i'm just voicing a very insignificant opinion.

from the stuff i read from some of the wonderful people here, it seems as though many are stuck in some sort of world where they force themselves to believe that they are not looking at men. as if it's something to be ashamed of? they force themselves to believe that there is this imaginary gender exists and completely block out every thought of past male existance..

i was thinking like this for a few weeks until i snapped out of it. i realized, yes, i am attracted to men, but they are not your ordinary men. they are women now in a sense, but honestly you can never simply block out the past, that's just insanity if you ask me. one should realize their identity, who they were and who they are now, it just makes it more beutiful in my opinion.

once again, i am simply another part of the masses, my thoughts are insignificant and theres no reason to argue about anything i have said.

[Bionca]

Originally Posted by guest

being a man, i can only see things from a very limited view.

you know what, i don't know shit to be honest.

i do know, though, that i am attracted to the male organ called the penis. this male organ, however, is only attractive when placed on a certain type of body, which is by no means the typical male body.

the sentance "i am attracted to the male organ called the penis" is something (assumingly) most of you here, deep down inside, should come to acceptance with.

i'm not just making this thread to call you all fags, that's not the purpose at all. i am just speaking realistically.

i don't want to get lost in a fantasy world where a third sex exists, so in a way, this is just my way of keeping my sanity.

i'm not trying to be an ass to anyone but the above sentance reminded me of everything blueraven always has to say on this forum. if you read this don't be offended, i'm just voicing a very insignificant opinion.

from the stuff i read from some of the wonderful people here, it seems as though many are stuck in some sort of world where they force themselves to believe that they are not looking at men. as if it's something to be ashamed of? they force themselves to believe that there is this imaginary gender exists and completely block out every thought of past male existance..

i was thinking like this for a few weeks until i snapped out of it. i realized, yes, i am attracted to men, but they are not your ordinary men. they are women now in a sense, but honestly you can never simply block out the past, that's just insanity if you ask me. one should realize their identity, who they were and who they are now, it just makes it more beutiful in my opinion.

once again, i am simply another part of the masses, my thoughts are insignificant and theres no reason to argue about anything i have said.

It seems that, to you, gender is defined by birth genetalia. If that makes you comfortable with your specific fetishization of a Trans*woman's body - I suppose that's swell.

Unfortunately your "fantasy world" is my lived relaity. I think it may be good idea to listen to trans*women and how they talk about their childhoods and pasts and their personal identities. Otherwise, you are in essence calling how I perceived and understod my childhood through today as some sort of delusion.

that's not what i meant to say.

just remember that i'm some dude you will probably never meet, does my opinion matter to you? i hope it doesn't. i really do, because i am no one.

another thing i believe in is always be proud of who you are no matter what the masses say.

there's only one of you, out of the whole fucking world, theres only one YOU. be who you are, fuck the rest and what they think, find someone who understands, and if no one understands fuck them, just do what makes you happy.

whether it be me who disagrees with your views, or your neighbor, fuck them. i mean, be cool about it, but don't mind their opinion.

and again, i didn't mean to cause anyone any trouble i was just expressing myself. i hope you find happiness bionca

[local]

I'm a "straight" male, with no interest in guy guys. Even TS ladies who are not passable are not really interesting. But time melts away with adoring a beautiful lady with a nice package. I really can't explain it. Once or twice I looked up "Are you gay if attracted to transexuals?" but it really became irrelevant. A label means nothing. I am comfortable in how I view the world and don't need anyone's definition to make sense of it. Enjoy and be comfortable in who you are and how you are.

[tomvan20000]

I had to swallow my pride the first time i admitted it, but yes, i am attracted to gay men who look,walk,talk,and act like women