WWF/WWE Fans?

[ziggybabie]

First, let me say to the detractors, yes I know it is "fake", but so is theater and action movies. I, and many others who also know this, still enjoy it.

That said, I used to be into the WWE big time. And WCW and ECW. I liked ECW best, for multiple reasons. The old ECW. The real one.

This new shit isn't ECW. The new "ECW" show sucks hairy goat balls and he's just turned it into a WWE minor league or something, which is an insult to the old fans and guys who started and built the company as an upstart rebellion and alternative to what the WWE and WCW were doing. Vince McMahon running "ECW" is about as oxymoronical as Hitler running anti-racism rallies. Complete opposites. ECW was a true democracy, where other wrestlers and fans opinions actually counted. McMahon runs his company like a dictatorship. Always has. His way or the highway and don't dare contradict his "genius". ECW was more free expression and taking it back for the fans. McMahon is about censorship and kissing corporate sponsors ass and pyrotechnic bullshit.

I've been boycotting the WWE for a while now, because of all the bullshit Vince has been doing. He practically spits on one of the most loyal portions of his fanbase (what he calls "internet fans" or "dirt-rag readers"). This steroid scandal helped bring to light how shitty a human being he is. Many hardcore wrestling fans have known for years.

"Yeah, don't take steroids" *wink wink...rewards guys who take steroids with promotions*

Ric Flair....if he came up in the WWE, he might not have made it. Cuz Vinnie Mac likes big guys more than guys who are better athletes. Flair never looked like a hulking behemoth. He just had personality and good matches.

Vince also LOTS of times doesn't respect guys from other promotions worth a damn if he didn't make them. Vader, Harley Race, Dusty Rhodes, etc. I could go further, but I'll leave it be. WCW was FAR from perfect, either, holding down so many young new guys with main event potential like Eddy Guerrero and Raven while we seen an 80 year old Hogan vs Savage match for the billionth time and they made practically no effort to elevate new main eventers. The name "Wheel Chair Wrestling" came from somewhere. The old timers wanted to hold that torch forever. I still liked the old NWA and WWE during and a little before the Attitude era, though. If I get any WWE tapes, now, though, it's old bootleg DVDs of the "good ol days". So I'm not putting money in Vinnie's pockets.

Nowadays, I'd rather support TNA or ROH. But, I'm more nostalgic than anything.

i don't see the point in fake sports, i can apreciate the corogrphy and the over the top showmanship, but its not something i could watch alot of, i used to like it when i was alot younger. i like to watch UFC theres even some wwe guys who fight in it, brock lesner he's scary looking i saw his secong ufc fight and he was pounding the guy silly for about four minutes then the guy submited him it was a hell of a fight.

[ziggybabie]

Originally Posted by rhythmic delivery

i don't see the point in fake sports, i can apreciate the corogrphy and the over the top showmanship, but its not something i could watch alot of, i used to like it when i was alot younger. i like to watch UFC theres even some wwe guys who fight in it, brock lesner he's scary looking i saw his secong ufc fight and he was pounding the guy silly for about four minutes then the guy submited him it was a hell of a fight.

It's more than just "fake sports" to fans though.

I never got real sports because most bore me to tears (there's more whistles and flags in football than action whenever I TRY to watch), but sports movies are AOK, because I like characters and storylines. Wrestling is also like a male soap opera with funny over-the-top characters and LMAO trashtalking and "skits"/interviews that are WAY too risque and adult themed to be considered too "childish", nowadays. Plus, the GOOD ones can put on just as an exciting match as any Rocky movie staged fight. It's not all just "fake hit" - "act like you're hit", bodyslam. Some of those guys came from Greco Roman and real collegiate wrestling backgrounds and put on fast paced exhibitions with more moves in a minute than Michael Jackson in Chucky Cheese.

But, to each their own. I understand everyone won't like it. I just hate how lot of people just oversimplify it and think of the false stereotypes that haven't been true for so long. Hulk Hogan is not a "wrestler", for example, but muscular entertainer with a 3-move-repertoire-pose for the fans style. He's the most known, but not all are as stereotypically untalented as him.

Anyways, yeah. UFC or the "real stuff" is about the only actual sport I watch. I used to love Royce Gracie way back in the UFC's early days.

[SluttyShemaleAnna]

in 50 years time, people will only remember Hogan from repeats of Mr Nanny.

Sad for him, but that's the price of selling out, tbh the big wad of cash is problly worth people remembering you only as 'that nanny guy' after your dead. Shame he could pull a Schwarzenegger and go into politics. President Hogan would be cool.

Maybe the rock will, seeing as after scorpion king he is the new Hogan. lol.

[sesame]

The phoniness of WWF or WWE really shows through after 5 minutes of watching! The movements are so slow! Its like I will let you thrash me for 2 minutes, I will give it to you, for the next 3 minutes. Got up case, buddy!

I like Hulk Hogan, he looks like a friendly guy! His appearence is Stallone's Rocky3 was rather short but quite amusing!

The Rock! The scorpion king! I enjoyed the action, every minute of it! I also remember the actress with much fondness. Kelly Hu, Oooooh!

[ziggybabie]

Originally Posted by sesame

The phoniness of WWF or WWE really shows through after 5 minutes of watching! The movements are so slow! Its like I will let you thrash me for 2 minutes, I will give it to you, for the next 3 minutes. Got up case, buddy!

I like Hulk Hogan, he looks like a friendly guy! His appearence is Stallone's Rocky3 was rather short but quite amusing!

The Rock! The scorpion king! I enjoyed the action, every minute of it! I also remember the actress with much fondness. Kelly Hu, Oooooh!

Don't use the WWE as an example of wrestling now, because they aren't concerned with athleticism. Especially not any of Hogan's old matches. If you want an example of how it's not all that bad, look up Rey Misterio vs Psicosis or Eddy Guerrero vs Dean Malenko or Bret Hart vs Shawn Michaels.

No, it's not all realistic 100% of the time, but it's something fans kind of overlook. The matches are still exciting, when the real athletes among them give it their all. Not all Hollywood fights are realistic, but some "corny" ones are still entertaining.

[sesame]

Ok, some of the Girl Fights are entertaining. I have to admit.
But they should improve on the choreography and fast pace.