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Old 07-22-2008
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i hate it when people put down religeon as being rediculous or completly fictional i myself am always recieving jabs about my being a jedi.
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i am a violent fundamentalist athiest, and think god and religeon have no place in a modern society and should be banned and replaced with and age of based on scientific breakthrough and disscovery and just foget all that mumbo jumbo crap
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i hate it when people put down religeon as being rediculous or completly fictional i myself am always recieving jabs about my being a jedi.
your two posts are somewhat at odds. in the first you are athiest and in the second you are jedi. while i respect a persons beliefs, two contradicting statements do tend to confuse. is the The Jediism Way not a religion? i can read all i want on teh internets, but you opinion and experiences would be most welcome.

or is it more a way of life than a religion?
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the is a science fiction novel, Wyrm by Mark Fabi. while the book itself received mixed reviews, it does have and interesting theory.

consider religion as a ,ind virus, of mind meme, that started because of some random inexplicable event that happened eons ago. naturaly this mind meme evolves into something greater over time. and the name for this meta mind meme? Group Overmind Daemon.
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I would consider myself an Open Theist, mostly an amalgamation of Hindu and Christian beliefs.
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your two posts are somewhat at odds. in the first you are athiest and in the second you are jedi. while i respect a persons beliefs, two contradicting statements do tend to confuse. is the The Jediism Way not a religion? i can read all i want on teh internets, but you opinion and experiences would be most welcome.

or is it more a way of life than a religion?
yeah my first post expressed my actual opinions and secind was a joke which in its self was actualy an jab at religeon as the religeon jedi is from the star wars films and most religeous people would concider being a jedi as rediculous as its clearly ficticious which is the exact view i have off all other religeons so the joke was trying to highlight to relgeous people that i concder christianty islam judayism budhism seekism and every other religeon as being exactly the same as jediism.
my favorit religon is scientology, thought up in the 1950 by science FICTION writer L ron hubard after he made a bet with a friend to see who could make a milion dollars quicker. its a religeon in which you have to pay to partake thus making its belivers as the most gulable fucking clows on the planet tom cruz amongst them
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Interesting Jedi fact of the day: according to the 2001 census, there are more Jedis in the UK than Jews, Buddhists or Sikhs.
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Agnostic. Atheist about all wordly theistic religions, but agnostic about the possibility of some unknown higher being, whether it's good natured, "evil", completely indifferent, or something totally beyond our understanding.

As far as the original "Satanist" comment, though, honestly a lot of people have a major misconception. LaVey Satanists are atheists. It's a non-theistic (no gods) religion, much like Buddhism or Taoism. More of a philosophy.

They do not believe in a devil or "boogeyman". The devil is just a metaphor for the things Christianity calls "sins". LaVeyan Satanists say things like "lust", "gluttony" and "pride" ("Tha DEVIL, Bobby Boo-shay!") are only human nature, and love should be shared for those who deserve it, not ingrates or enemies who will not appreciate or reciprocate it. Instead of turning the other cheek or letting yourself be walked all over, seek vengeance. It's all about balance and moderation of these things.

Personally, some of it's a bit TOO abrasive for my tastes. I'm not big on vengeance, for example, or fighting, or the sort, unless it's a last resort. I'd be more with the passive aggressiveness of Buddhism on things like that. But, I do think a lot of things about the "religion" Anton LaVey created make sense. I respect philosophy over theology, but even that said, many theistic religions are still cool mythologies with some good lessons.

I'm not exactly an expert on anything though. My life philosophies are a random mishmash of things I learned from google searches or pop culture, mostly. lol

IF there is a truly loving God, I think being a good person should be enough to pass his/her "judgment". Sending Gandhi to hell for picking the "wrong path" (with little to no evidence to guide him since every religion is equally valid according to "blind faith" sans facts), but letting in a serial killer because he asks the "correct God" for forgiveness sounds like very flawed morals to me.

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i am just agnostic, too much of a historian
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Conventional Christian upbringing & background - fairly liberal. Totally disillusioned about hierarchical Religion which has repeatedly been abused in a quest for power, and as a consequence shamelessly exclusive. From my background I have been left with a deep conviction that God exists ( The Numinous ), a strong feeling that Gnosticism & Buddhism have found much of the path to oneness with the Creator, and a growing interest in Zoroastrianism and Taoism. ( The journey is long but the paths are many )
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As far as the original "Satanist" comment, though, honestly a lot of people have a major misconception. LaVey Satanists are atheists. It's a non-theistic (no gods) religion, much like Buddhism or Taoism. More of a philosophy.

They do not believe in a devil or "boogeyman". The devil is just a metaphor for the things Christianity calls "sins". LaVeyan Satanists say things like "lust", "gluttony" and "pride" ("Tha DEVIL, Bobby Boo-shay!") are only human nature, and love should be shared for those who deserve it, not ingrates or enemies who will not appreciate or reciprocate it. Instead of turning the other cheek or letting yourself be walked all over, seek vengeance. It's all about balance and moderation of these things.

Personally, some of it's a bit TOO abrasive for my tastes. I'm not big on vengeance, for example, or fighting, or the sort, unless it's a last resort. I'd be more with the passive aggressiveness of Buddhism on things like that. But, I do think a lot of things about the "religion" Anton LaVey created make sense. I respect philosophy over theology, but even that said, many theistic religions are still cool mythologies with some good lessons.
Quite right in your initial description of LaVeyan Satanism. As a person who has read, studied, and owned much of LaVey's published work, to me, it boils down to little more than a mystified and ritualized form of secular humanism. Personally, (regardless of the mysticism and ritual) the secular humanist perspective cuts too close to nihilism, and both philosophies leave me a bit empty at the end of the day. In my estimation, Anton LaVey would have made a more effective argument for his philosophy on life if he left out the obvious mockery of Christian ritual. I think I understand his motives in this, but by making a ritualized religion he accomplished two things: 1) He attempts to parody the predominant religion of the West, which is Christianity; 2) He succumbs to some of the same flaws of the regimented ritualism of contemporary religion. In this sense, I think the philosophy fails, it would have been more successful being espoused as a type of secular humanism, sans the symbolic ritual.

Even with that said, the premises of secular humanism I find, like you, to be a bit too abrasive in regards to the conclusions that follow. As I stated above, I find a Hindu metaphysical construct to best address some of the problems of duality of phenomenon, the nature of "good" and "evil," etc.
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I've been brought up te be a roman catholic, but like my parents I've given up on religion.

It's great that we've put down some basic rules for living like a good person, but I really dislike the judgment over others that seems to come with religion and the fact that the people who shout the loudest are those who break most of their own rules.
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