Hamites, Semites and their neighbours in the Middle East

[ila]

Originally Posted by Elonar

First off, Tradition places Noah's Ark making landfall somewhere on Mount Arafat

That would be Mount Ararat (in Turkey).

[Marine_N41_432]

Originally Posted by ila

That would be Mount Ararat (in Turkey).

I think Elonar must have become mentally locked into the Arab Spring / Palestinian debate to make such an obvious blunder. He comes across as too switched on to make such an error otherwise.

Interesting that the legend of Noah appears in the Babylonian accounts of a similar survival myth, than of Uta-Napishtim, but I guess that Elonar knows all about that too.



PS Shouldn't this stuff be in a different thread unrelated to ' Shemales ' ?

[Elonar]

Originally Posted by Marine_N41_432

I think Elonar must have become mentally locked into the Arab Spring / Palestinian debate to make such an obvious blunder. He comes across as too switched on to make such an error otherwise.

Interesting that the legend of Noah appears in the Babylonian accounts of a similar survival myth, than of Uta-Napishtim, but I guess that Elonar knows all about that too.



PS Shouldn't this stuff be in a different thread unrelated to ' Shemales ' ?

Spot on ! Very careless of me !

Just in passing -

Utanapishtim. Called Utnapishtim in the Old Babylonian version of the story of ' the Flood ', the Assyrian version contained in The Epic of Gilgamesh is the most complete. Gilgamesh, the hero, features in Akkadian and Hittite cuneiform sources which are far less complete. The Sumerian version features Utanapishtim as the devout priest-king Ziusudra caught up in a ( local ) flood in the Euphrates basin, and probably dumped by the receding waters in the Arabian Gulf. So, the Biblical Noah account ( Semitic ) apart, he features simply as a part of a very much larger saga, that of the hero, Gilgamesh.

Stacks of stuff out there on the Internet to be picked over by the curious. Oh, and the Mount Ararat of the Bible is referred to as ' Mount ' Nisir in the Epic of Gilgamesh, which, not unsurprisingly, opens a whole new can of academic worms - but I'll leave you to root around in that particular controversy !

Yes, and I agree that this stuff should really be parked in a thread called, perhaps Iraqi heritage or something like that.

ila - can you set this up, if, as Florian seems to think, there exists enough interest among the membership ?