Pretty Boys

[tunafish]

because i'm not very into definitions and etiquette on the web,just a questions for the girls right there:somebody is calling "boys" the shemales (or ts)..that's not a bit offensive?
(sorry if i make mistakes on definitions but in real life i only use the words "transvestite or crossdresser=still a male but with female clothes","shemale or transsexual=a very large group for me","ladyboy=asian trans" and recently i've learned "trap=for me the step between tv and ts")
is it correct?

[tunafish]

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[cumshooter69]

Originally Posted by tunafish

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WOW..the pretty boy in the 3rd picture is freakin HOTT

[littlesuzy]

Originally Posted by tunafish

it's true the only important thing is the self identity..and maybe some photos would fit better in femboys or just "shemale things" anyway if they are good no problem i think
and yes the boy is very pretty..

I think he's hot !

[tunafish]

whatever..

[tunafish]

another try..for what it's worth i'll do the same moves as i've done before..
my apologies to moderators

[littlesuzy]

I get so turnedon my cock is so hard rite now !

[smc]

Originally Posted by tunafish

because i'm not very into definitions and etiquette on the web,just a questions for the girls right there:somebody is calling "boys" the shemales (or ts)..that's not a bit offensive?
(sorry if i make mistakes on definitions but in real life i only use the words "transvestite or crossdresser=still a male but with female clothes","shemale or transsexual=a very large group for me","ladyboy=asian trans" and recently i've learned "trap=for me the step between tv and ts")
is it correct?

There is a lot of confusion and controversy over terms. The most important thing to remember is that the individual's self-identity is what matters most. In fact, it is all that matters. Hence, when people have posted models who clearly identify as women and referred to them as crossdressers, they have been corrected (and reprimanded, if the need arises).

There is a "Femboys" thread that has many of what you call "traps." It existed long before I joined this site; had I had a say in its creation, I would have argued for a different title. In fact, I would change the name of this site, since the term "ladyboy" sows such confusion (see below).

Personally, I think this "Pretty Boys" thread should have no models other than those who clearly identify as boys, but who happen to be "pretty" (which, in most cases, tends on this site to mean they have "feminine" features).

Also personally, I do not think that any model from the various sites with "ladyboy" in their name belong in this thread (e.g., the one posted just above. While it is true that "boy" is part of that characterization, it is the case that this is more a language/translation issue than it is a genuine gender identity. I submit that most Asians who call themselves ladyboys would, if they were native English speakers, not use that term. This is based only on some empirical evidence, but I am confident that it would hold under rigorous scrutiny.

[amy/cd]

we can't always know how these people "self-identify" but that also raises another problem: perhaps they change how they self-identify. pictures from one time period my reflect one self-identity while pictures of the same person from another time may reflect another. how are we to sort this out?

if the model complains about how they are categorized then fair enough - if not then how do we know?

Originally Posted by smc

There is a lot of confusion and controversy over terms. The most important thing to remember is that the individual's self-identity is what matters most. In fact, it is all that matters. Hence, when people have posted models who clearly identify as women and referred to them as crossdressers, they have been corrected (and reprimanded, if the need arises).

There is a "Femboys" thread that has many of what you call "traps." It existed long before I joined this site; had I had a say in its creation, I would have argued for a different title. In fact, I would change the name of this site, since the term "ladyboy" sows such confusion (see below).

Personally, I think this "Pretty Boys" thread should have no models other than those who clearly identify as boys, but who happen to be "pretty" (which, in most cases, tends on this site to mean they have "feminine" features).

Also personally, I do not think that any model from the various sites with "ladyboy" in their name belong in this thread (e.g., the one posted just above. While it is true that "boy" is part of that characterization, it is the case that this is more a language/translation issue than it is a genuine gender identity. I submit that most Asians who call themselves ladyboys would, if they were native English speakers, not use that term. This is based only on some empirical evidence, but I am confident that it would hold under rigorous scrutiny.

[smc]

Originally Posted by amy/cd

we can't always know how these people "self-identify" but that also raises another problem: perhaps they change how they self-identify. pictures from one time period my reflect one self-identity while pictures of the same person from another time may reflect another. how are we to sort this out?

if the model complains about how they are categorized then fair enough - if not then how do we know?

Of course, you are correct: we can't always know. But taking some care with posts goes a long way. For instance, as I wrote, if the picture comes from "Shemale Yum" (which would be clearly indicated on the picture itself), we should assume that the model is not a "pretty boy." In addition, women with obvious breasts are not crossdressers. Yet, people have posted such pictures in this and the Femboys thread!

[manhasso]

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