Thoughts on Today's Political Landscape

[smc]

Originally Posted by tslust

If I were Governor Brewer, I would send a leter to obama. Telling him that as long as his administration continues it's stance against the State of Arizona members of the Department of Justice (FBI, ATF, INS, ICE) are not welcome in the State of Arizona. Furthermore, all tax revenue from the State of Arizona, destined for the Federal government, will be withheald.

Since making asinine suggestions and posting asinine political bullshit seems to be the order of the day, why not have Arizona secede from the union, compensate all of its residents who wish to move to the United States with a subsidy to help them get settled in a neighboring state that respects U.S. law, and be done with the craziness once for all?

Seriously ... the two of you support the idea of giving a law-enforcement agency the right to stop anyone, based on how they look, and demand to see papers? I know TracyCoxx will try to dodge answering the question, but the analogy cries out for it: what about stopping Jewish-looking people in Nazi Germany?

[tslust]

Originally Posted by smc

Since making asinine suggestions and posting asinine political bullshit seems to be the order of the day, why not have Arizona secede from the union, compensate all of its residents who wish to move to the United States with a subsidy to help them get settled in a neighboring state that respects U.S. law, and be done with the craziness once for all?

Seriously ... the two of you support the idea of giving a law-enforcement agency the right to stop anyone, based on how they look, and demand to see papers? I know TracyCoxx will try to dodge answering the question, but the analogy cries out for it: what about stopping Jewish-looking people in Nazi Germany?

Far be it for me to allow something like facts to get in the way. Arizona's law does not empower law enforcement to stop people based on skin color. It simply says that the cops can check the immigration status of an individual who they have already pulled over or arrested. Furthermore, it is obama, not the State of Arizona, that does not respect U.S. law.

[smc]

Originally Posted by tslust

Far be it for me to allow something like facts to get in the way. Arizona's law does not empower law enforcement to stop people based on skin color. It simply says that the cops can check the immigration status of an individual who they have already pulled over or arrested. Furthermore, it is obama, not the State of Arizona, that does not respect U.S. law.

You're correct; you didn't let facts get in the way. The provision of the law struck down by the U.S. Supreme Court allowed PRECISELY what I wrote.

[tslust]

Originally Posted by smc

You're correct; you didn't let facts get in the way. The provision of the law struck down by the U.S. Supreme Court allowed PRECISELY what I wrote.

The Supreme Court upheald the challenged portion that allows law enforcement to investigate the immigration status of persons allready stopped, detained, or arrested (wich means that law enforcement is only authorized to check the immigration status of people they are already dealing with) if there is a reasonable suspicion they may be here illegally.

[smc]

Originally Posted by tslust

The Supreme Court upheald the challenged portion that allows law enforcement to investigate the immigration status of persons allready stopped, detained, or arrested (wich means that law enforcement is only authorized to check the immigration status of people they are already dealing with) if there is a reasonable suspicion they may be here illegally.

Yes. I was referring to the Arizona law pre-Supreme Court. Perhaps the confusion here is what people call "talking past each other."

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[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by smc

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And you will name it Romney Gates and it will have glorious hair.