Steve Jobs

[Pikachu1989]

Yeah Jobs did an awesome job in changing the world as we know it. I prefer th Droid as I have one and is better than the IPhone IMO. The only Apple product I own is the IPod Touch and I like it. It's mostly my home Computer and I am using the site on my IPod touch as of this Moment.

[ila]

Originally Posted by Pikachu1989

Yeah Jobs did an awesome job in changing the world as we know it. I prefer th Droid as I have one and is better than the IPhone IMO. The only Apple product I own is the IPod Touch and I like it. It's mostly my home Computer and I am using the site on my IPod touch as of this Moment.

Jobs didn't change a damned thing. He never had an original idea in his life. Everything he produced was copied from a previous product.

[randolph]

Originally Posted by ila

Jobs didn't change a damned thing. He never had an original idea in his life. Everything he produced was copied from a previous product.

I don't know about that, Jobs was brilliant. The Iphone and the Ipad are technological marvels that have incredible appeal to the public and made Apple extremely wealthy. I think it was Jobs leadership that was the basis of Apple's success. It remains to be seen if apple can continue it's innovative leadership now that he is gone.

[ila]

Originally Posted by randolph

I don't know about that, Jobs was brilliant. The Iphone and the Ipad are technological marvels that have incredible appeal to the public and made Apple extremely wealthy. I think it was Jobs leadership that was the basis of Apple's success. It remains to be seen if apple can continue it's innovative leadership now that he is gone.

The iphone is a copy of RIM's blackberry which existed years before the iphone. The ipad is a copy of a product that Microsoft produced in the 90's. Microsoft's version didn't sell because there wasn't the telecommunications infrastructure back then to support it.

[smc]

Originally Posted by ila

Jobs didn't change a damned thing. He never had an original idea in his life. Everything he produced was copied from a previous product.

I'm no fan of Jobs as a person, but your claim is simply untrue.

[ila]

Originally Posted by smc

I'm no fan of Jobs as a person, but your claim is simply untrue.

He certainly didn't come up with the idea of a personal computer nor was he the first to make one. He didn't come up with the idea of a GUI, although his version was the first user friendly one.

[smc]

Originally Posted by ila

He certainly didn't come up with the idea of a personal computer nor was he the first to make one. He didn't come up with the idea of a GUI, although his version was the first user friendly one.

You are thinking too narrowly, my friend. Again, I'm no fan of Jobs as a person. But under his leadership, Apple innovated in remarkable ways. The devices Apple produced are not always completely original (cf. the MPG player), but the design of them changes the way users interact with technology. Consider the iPod, as one example. It is a seamless mix of a device and a service (iTunes) that has rarely been achieved in the history of technology. Jobs directed that effort, and deserves credit for how it changed the world.

[ila]

Originally Posted by smc

You are thinking too narrowly, my friend. Again, I'm no fan of Jobs as a person. But under his leadership, Apple innovated in remarkable ways. The devices Apple produced are not always completely original (cf. the MPG player), but the design of them changes the way users interact with technology. Consider the iPod, as one example. It is a seamless mix of a device and a service (iTunes) that has rarely been achieved in the history of technology. Jobs directed that effort, and deserves credit for how it changed the world.

The iPod is copy of Sony's MP3 player. iTunes wasn't the first online music file sharing service. Jobs' effort is that he produced the hardware, software, and enduser product in one company instead of several separate companies.

[randolph]

Originally Posted by ila

The iPod is copy of Sony's MP3 player. iTunes wasn't the first online music file sharing service. Jobs' effort is that he produced the hardware, software, and enduser product in one company instead of several separate companies.

I am not a fan of Apple products, but I think you are being rather harsh on Jobs. All innovators base their achievements on the accomplishments of others. Our good friend Bill Gates used the CPM operating system as a basis for the IBM PC operating system.
Even Einstein could not have come up with his revolutionary theories without the knowledge gained from physicists and mathematicians before him. Also, how did your Scottish buddy, Higgs come up with the Higgs boson? He just didn't create it out of thin air.
By the way, you are very well informed on technology, are you in the field?

[smc]

Originally Posted by ila

The iPod is copy of Sony's MP3 player. iTunes wasn't the first online music file sharing service. Jobs' effort is that he produced the hardware, software, and enduser product in one company instead of several separate companies.

The iPod as a complete product, seamlessly integrating the device, technology, and service, is so advanced compared to the Sony product that it cannot even be compared. If you are judging innovation on the basis of who is first to create something that is narrowly defined, you may be correct. But ascribing innovation in that way would negate some of the world?s greatest advances.