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[hankhavelock]

Originally Posted by eliogabalo

You hate to see America become Europeanized ... It's very strange ... We in Europe have the feeling we ar Americanizated...
Why so acrimonious ? I'm italian, but the French, with its wonderful art and culture, is the most stunning nation in the world.
Down with Nationalism!

We really should ask the moderator to set up a place to discuss off-topic issues.

Your point is very interesting.

Primarily the fascination of America in the rest of the world is shallow and uninformed - as, indeed, American culture is as well in many regards (but certainly not all). But America has been considerably more succesful in exporting Coca Cola, hamburgers and entertaining movies than anything else. Which, of course, in many regards gives a very distorted picture of America as a carefree nation where every thing is light and easy.

But it takes two to tango and the blame is as well on us. And it also means that we sometimes miss the point of what the "true" America really is - with all its flaws and all its wonders.

With the current administration it's VERY hard to credibly "export" American moral and political values - because these original values are under severe attack in America itself right now.

But, tomorrow will come :-) If you watch history America has the track-record in inconsistency... but some how she always lands on her feet AND on the side of "good".

And the best thing is that we can HAVE these discussions... which is not least due to American intervention when it REALLY mattered!

Peace!

Hank