GOP'ish candidates

[randolph]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

With BO's spending sprees I've been thinking Ron Paul is on to something. And yes, he has several good points on personal liberties. After watching him last night I was reminded of how extreme he is. He doesn't come off as a leader either.

Ron Paul is a classic Ayn Rand type that longs to return to the McKinley era of small federal government. The time when the Rockefellers, the Morgans and other corporate moguls ruled America.
Ron and the teabaggers seem to be devoid of any understanding of history and what it was like before Teddy Roosevelt developed some regulation of corporate greed and repression of industrial workers.
Teddy was a Republican, by the way, concerned for the people and the preservation of the best things America stood for.

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by randolph

Ron Paul is a classic Ayn Rand type that longs to return to the McKinley era of small federal government. The time when the Rockefellers, the Morgans and other corporate moguls ruled America.
Ron and the teabaggers seem to be devoid of any understanding of history and what it was like before Teddy Roosevelt developed some regulation of corporate greed and repression of industrial workers.
Teddy was a Republican, by the way, concerned for the people and the preservation of the best things America stood for.

Just like having too little regulation is a bad thing, having too much is also bad. The latter being very difficult to reverse.

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Thanks to Andy Borowitz ...

September 14, 2011

A Letter from Rick Perry
Introducing PerryCare?

Dear American,

For the last few weeks I?ve been under constant attack. My opponents would have you believe that if I?m elected, you?ll be stripped of your Social Security benefits and will be scrounging for food in dumpsters with all the desperation of a feral cat.

Of course, that?s true. But what they don?t tell you is what I?d replace Social Security with: an amazing new program I like to call PerryCare?.

Under PerryCare?, you?ll receive all the food, clothing and shelter you need, and it won?t cost a dime in taxes. How if that possible? Simple: you?ll be praying for all those things.

As a PerryCare? recipient, each week you?ll receive in your email box a PerryCare? PrayerMail?, giving you an easy-to-recite prayer for the bread, milk, cat food or whatever else you need to survive. It?s like a Groupon from God.

PerryCare? is more than a replacement for that infernal Ponzi scheme that has bamboozled Americans with regular monthly checks for 75 years. It is part of my larger plan to return prayer to its rightful place in American life. I get down on my knees every night and I promise you, if I am elected your President, I will bring this entire country to its knees.

I expect that some of my opponents will laugh at my plan, especially that lawn gnome Ron Paul and Michele ?Crazy Eyes? Bachmann. Fine, let them laugh! Laughter is the best medicine. And if I am elected, there will be no other medicine.

That brings me to my PerryCare? medical plan, which will replace Medicare once I consign that Ponzi scheme to the electric chair of history. I don?t have enough time to go into the whole plan right now, but here it is in two words: single prayer.

Your next President,

Gov. Rick Perry

[transjen]

I find it funny that seven of the eight GOP bozos running for president all have a flat tax plan only Paul has not came up with one as he's agianst all taxes period
But back to the seven gop bozos and there flat tax plans ,they say it's best for America everyone will pay less taxes it'll pay off the deficet and create jobs
ah flat tax will deliver us to the promise land
The true funny thing in this is these same bozos always say Obama care is socialism and him and the Dems want the USA to be like a comminest country
so here are those same bozos all screaming for a flat tax well here's a news flash
Answer me this name me a country who has the flat tax system come on say it, say it go ahead say it the answer is RUSSIA
Funny how the GOP feels that anything that helps the poor is socialism and anything that helps the ultra rich is good for the country
Jerseygirl Jen

[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by transjen

Answer me this name me a country who has the flat tax system come on say it, say it go ahead say it the answer is RUSSIA
Funny how the GOP feels that anything that helps the poor is socialism and anything that helps the ultra rich is good for the country

Yeah, which was implemented AFTER the fall of communism

[Trogdor]

If I were to choose, I would say Ron Paul. Apart from his views on abortions and same sex marriage, he's got good ideas. Pity the media gives him limited coverage, as opposed to these drama queens and kings that the others are.

[Trogdor]

One of the main things that need to be done is to reverse several of Obama's energy policies. Obama has openly stated that his goal was to drive coal companies into bankruptcy and that energy costs under his presidency would necessarily skyrocket. Banning oil drilling sure hasn't helped. If the cost of energy goes up, the cost of everything goes up.

Problem is, big coal and oil suppress alternative energy sources, plus I am a firm believer in abiotic oil, and the oil companies would wind up selling oil dirt cheap if proven true. I also believe that while abiotic oil is true, we need to use something else, since oil is too valuable to be used for energy....plus I've been to places like L.A., I don't need to see the air get more foul and my eyes burning even more so. I am also a firm believer in zero point energy, and both J.P. Morgan and Thomas Edison went all out to destroy Nikola Tesla's reputation and well being, since if he would have gotten it going, it would have meant, safe, clean and free energy for everyone...and both Morgan and Edison did not want that (Edison was a businessman, and an asshole first, and a scientist second)...and Tesla died a penniless and broken man because of them.

Think about it, you really think the oil companies will say, "A new way or energy is found? Great! We will step down as a domineering force and not make billions in profits (and I also believe in abiotic oil since one does NOT make record billions in profit on a dwindling resource) and make way for progress!" Not gonna happen, folks, until someone's got the balls or the tits to tell big oil and coal what they can go do with themselves.

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Originally Posted by Trogdor

If I were to choose, I would say Ron Paul. Apart from his views on abortions and same sex marriage, he's got good ideas. Pity the media gives him limited coverage, as opposed to these drama queens and kings that the others are.

Ron Paul on "Hardball," MSNBC, May 3, 2011, attempting to justify is racist rejection of the 1964 Civil Rights Act

Chris Matthews: Let me ask you this: the '64 civil rights bill. Do you think a [em]ployer, a guy runs his shop down in Texas has a right to say, "If you're black, you don't come in my store". That was the libertarian right before '64. Was it the balanced society?

Ron Paul: I believe that property rights should be protected. Your right to be on TV is protected by property rights because somebody owns that station. I can't walk into your station. So right of freedom of speech is protected by property. The right of your church is protected by property. So people should honor and protect it. This gimmick, Chris, it's off the wall when you say I'm for property rights and states' rights, therefore I'm a racist. I mean that's just outlandish. Wait, Chris. Wait, Chris. People who say that if the law was there and you could do that, who's going to do it? What idiot would do that?

Chris Matthews: Everybody in the South. I saw these signs driving through the South in college. Of course they did it. You remember them doing it.

Ron Paul: Yeah, I but also know that the Jim Crow laws were illegal and we got rid of them under that same law, and that's all good. Government ?

Chris Matthews: But you would've voted against that law.

Ron Paul: Pardon me?

Chris Matthews: You would've voted against that law. You wouldn't have voted for the '64 civil rights bill.

Ron Paul: Yes, but not in ? I wouldn?t vote against getting rid of the Jim Crow laws.

Chris Matthews: But you would have voted for the ? you know you ? oh, come on. Honestly, Congressman, you were not for the '64 civil rights bill.

Ron Paul: Because ? because of the property rights element, not because it got rid of the Jim Crow law.

Chris Matthews: Let me ask you this: I once went to Laundromat when I was at a Peace Corps training in Baker, Louisiana. A Laundromat had this sign on in glaze: "Whites only on the Laundromat", just to use the Laundromat machines. This was a local shop saying no blacks allowed. You say that should be legal?

Ron Paul: That's ? that's ancient history. That's ancient history. That's over and done with.

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Originally Posted by Trogdor

If I were to choose, I would say Ron Paul. Apart from his views on abortions and same sex marriage, he's got good ideas. Pity the media gives him limited coverage, as opposed to these drama queens and kings that the others are.

Ron Paul on the separation of church and state:

"The ultimate goal of the anti-religious elites is to transform America into a completely secular nation, a nation that is legally and culturally biased against Christianity."

"The notion of a rigid separation between church and state has no basis in either the text of the Constitution or the writings of our Founding Fathers. On the contrary, our Founders' political views were strongly informed by their religious beliefs."