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Are you sure about that? Isn't Aljazeera (how do you write this?) ex-BBC people?
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You won't find any unbiased news reporting there.
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Enoch Root, is yours a rhetorical question?
I think it behooves Westerners to watch the English-language broadcasts of al-Jazeera. Forget what the reporters say (and, by the way, they are very highly regarded by their peers in the Western press). What al-Jazeera offers that is next to impossible to find in the United States and, to only a somewhat lesser extent, Canadian press is the perspective of regular people in the countries of the Middle East, unfiltered by American talking heads on the left and right. For instance, if you watch al-Jazeera, you will learn that the only people who thought the Egyptian uprising was aptly called a "Twitter and Facebook revolution" are American journalists and pundits who love (even if subconsciously) to find a way for America to take credit for everything, even if it's just via inventions by Americans. Still, in that there is hardly any unbiased reporting anywhere in the world, ila is correct. |
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The news and especially TV news is filtered through the owners of the TV station. TV stations are very sensitive to the corporations that provide TV advertising. Fox news is in my opinion the worst news station in the US. Murdock is only interested in making money by appealing to the lowest denominator of the US public. For non TV news, NPR is very good.
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FOX news should really rename themselves as GOP news or the gossipal accord to Palin news, all kidding aside FOX news is geared for those who listen to the tub of lard Rush all day so perhaps they could rename themselve the Ditto news for and by ditto heads
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How accurate is the accusation that pundits always try to find a way to give credit to America for everything? Either way it seems like an odd thing for them to say or think--didn't the US support Mubarak for decades? |
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BTW, have you seen how close GE is with the BO administration? First, there?s the policy overlap: Obama wants cap-and-trade, GE wants cap-and-trade. Obama subsidizes embryonic stem-cell research, GE launches an embryonic stem-cell business. Obama calls for rail subsidies, GE hires Linda Daschle as a rail lobbyist. Obama gives a speeech, GE employee Chris Matthews feels a thrill up his leg. And then, none other than GE's CEO Jeff Immelt sits on the President?s Economic Recovery Advisory board. But I digress... About the rich, and this is from FactCheck. "The top 1 percent of all households got 18 percent of all personal income and paid nearly 28 percent of all federal taxes in 2005, according to the Congressional Budget Office. The top 1 percent now pay a significantly larger share of taxes than before President Bush's tax cuts, and also have a larger share of income." Do you see that Jen? Comprehend that. The top 1% paid 28% of all federal taxes. How much percent of all federal taxes is your tax bracket paying Jen? And another question. The US debt is a result of the government digging itself into a hole. Tell me, why is it the rich's responsibility to bail them out? The government didn't have to budget more than they bring in, but yet they did. Why is that? The government didn't have to take us off the gold standard in exchange for importing goods from China, Japan and other countries, and yet they did (which took business away from US companies, aka 'the rich'). Why is that? It is one stupid move by the government after another that put us in debt like we are. Tell me: WHAT RIGHT DOES THE GOVERNMENT HAVE TO TAKE MONEY FROM THE RICH, OR ANYONE ELSE TO FIX THE MESS THEY MADE?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFJvlzDpey4 Chris Matthews: I want to do everything I can to make this thing work. This new presidency work. Interviewer: Is that your job? Chris Matthews: Yeah, that's my job.
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The military/ industrial complex is alive and well and fully supported by Republicans and Democrats alike. When are we going to get serious about our future energy supply? Is building more and more sophisticated weaponry that is mind boggling expensive going to solve anything?
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And of course sophisticated weaponry will solve things. Haven't you seen Iron Man? Seriously though, it's worked ever since our ancestors threw rocks.
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Oh! for the glory days of Teddy Roosevelt and his great white fleet sailing around the world letting every one know how great we are.
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Good old Tracy, I can always depend on you for a loaf of halfbaked bullshit and imperialist entitlement. I find it amazing how you vacillate from pro-business bullshit to trying to sound like a reasonable person about GE's business and their tax debacle but it does implicate Obama so I guess it's easier for you to do that. And I love how you portray the victimizers (ie, the rich) as the poor victims of government policies, never mind that it is the rich who make laws to suit their own selfish ends, never mind that there is no real delineation between government and the private sector, never mind that it is deregulation that is to blame for so many problems, never mind that the economic system you love so much is a slave system.
Criminals should pay for their crimes. But I guess I'm just a parasite so what do I know? Last edited by Enoch Root; 04-09-2011 at 09:48 AM. |
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Who said you're a parasite?
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Boner fucked up last night. He seemed to have forgotten two of his pledges: Defund Obamacare, and cut spending $100 billion. I'm tired of republicans who put pleasing democrats over pleasing their own constituents.
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I disagree that the US should have retained command. Other countries are more than capable of taking command of military operations. I do agree that no politician thought about what goal is to be achieved. It seems that the only thought was to destroy Libya's military capability and maybe hope that Qadhafi would leave of his own accord or maybe be overthrown. Beyond that the politicians don't have a clue as to what to do because no plan was ever made. |
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When you've nothing to say I guess you can always resort to onomatopoeia and condescension.
The briefest glance at the world shows it to be shackled by the American empire: sweatshops to make Nike shoes and garden-variety exploited workers in South America making your Cocacola--who are sometimes murdered by their government, a government that is in cahoots with the US to provide them cheap slave labor. Chinese workers are exploited every day to make all manner of crap that is summarily bought by Americans in thrall by your greedy, materialistic consumerist culture. The list goes on and on. And let us not forget this is because these American companies believe it natural to exploit people, just like the aristocracy of old. Let us not forget either that the use of slave labor is the real reason why jobs have been "offshored." You have to put the hoi polloi in their place after all. You have to put them to work, make them useful, show them who's boss. This is what I mean by slaves. The point about parasites should be well known to you. Libertarians love that word don't they? "Burden us not with your chaff" and other such authoritarian garbage. These exploited workers are the "parasites" and so am I since I'm Puertorican. I'm just a moocher, a freeloader and so are the Indonesians in sweatshops and so are Mexican immigrants and so are the average US workers. It's what authoritarians always do: they exploit people and then they scapegoat them. That should sound familiar: teachers and unions are blamed for the financial troubles even though they were caused by tax cuts for the rich and two wars which have yet to end. This issue of "parasite" or some other similar labeling of victims is at the heart of your absurd sociopolitical beliefs--you look down on the smallfolk, but pander to the rich and powerful. Last edited by Enoch Root; 04-09-2011 at 12:07 PM. |
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Meanwhile they want to defund family planning in the US. If the Reagan and Bush taxcuts were eliminated, we would have a budget surplus and we could begin to pay off the debt. Is that going to happen? Not while the rest of us allow to be
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Would you like me to produce a list of times and places that US planes bombed and strafed their allies? I could start with recent events in Iraq and Afghanistan and then start working back in time. And BTW the only planes that NATO owns are AWACS. All other countries participating in the Libyan conflict are owned by their respective countries and that includes countries that don't belong to NATO. |
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The accidental attacks on insurgent tanks were apparently by planes flying under the NATO flag. I don't know who the planes belong to. The point I was making is that there seems to be a serious lack of communication among the NATO participants.
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Well, the pilot didn't know that the insurgents had tanks! So he attacked them assuming they were Quaddafi tanks. Also, NATO expressed "regret" about the incident.
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NATO is in charge of running the no-fly zone. Therefore any statements coming from the coalition will be statements originating from NATO. |
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i have to laugh at all of the GOP who are now pissing and moaning about the budget and are demanding cuts and are so worried about the sea of red ink when for eight years they said not a word when W was run up the credit card with his massive tax cuts for the rich and two unfunded wars So now that a DEM is in the white house all of a sudden you are worried about it and yet you still want all of W's tax cuts left alone and in fact you want them made bigger So if you were serious Bush's tax cuts would be the first to go then end both wars and not start a third like John Macain wants and the GOP are banging the war drum for and end corpate wellfare But no the GOP wants just the poor to suffer from the cuts and pay for sea of red ink while the rich party on and get even more tax cuts Don't cut planned parent hood do away with Bush's tax cuts and it's time the rich started paying there share GEORGE W BUSH created this mess with his trickle down BS and two wars put on credit so F rich and make them start paying there share Trickle down does not create jobs and the world will not end if the taxes for the rich went back to pre 2001 amounts The GOP wants to end entitlements then the first to go should be the rich should pass less then everyone else Jerseygirl Jen |
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Parasite is your word not mine. I'm not going to say it does or does not apply to you. I don't know you and you don't know me. You don't know who I look down on or who I pander to. And I've never heard the phrase "Burden us not with your chaff". I even googled it... nothing. It's catchy though. You should make a t-shirt with that written on it and sell it.
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But even he knows that ending Bush's tax cuts would tank the economy. So you really don't think it's possible that we might be over spending somewhere? There was one congressman I saw on the news yesterday who came up with several hundred million to cut for a particular item in defense. It passed without any no votes at all. Are you sure you wouldn't concede that it's possible we're spending too much?
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"To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth." Theodore Roosevelt
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I'm not sure about the total quantities coming from Mexico and the Middle East. I do know that Mexico is ranked second as the country that supplies the US with oil, however all the countries of the Middle East combined may supply more oil than Mexico.
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He was the peoples Republican president. Most of the programs put in place by FDR were initiated by TR. Republicans today want to do away with all the progressive programs that he started and return the country to the time when a few very rich men ruled the country (J.P. Morgan, Rockefeller, et. al.). When children worked in the coal mines for six dollars a month. No minimum wage, no workers comp, no retirement, no health care. Ah yes, we have so much to look forward to with Republicans in control of the government.
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Egypt and Libya are contained by desert. We have a wadeable river!
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Well Fran, your support (Tracy, Ila) are off line. The liberals (Jen, Enoch) are also off line. So I guess we need to have a cup of coffee and wait for reinforcements.
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I hope this is the first and last time I have to say this: I am not a liberal.
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Well, I guess that means you want to stay out of the discussion?
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[QUOTE=TracyCoxx;181030]:
But even he knows that ending Bush's tax cuts would tank the economy[QUOTE] Ah yes the same BS we have heard from the GOP sine Ronnie R it's doom and gloom if the rich have to pay there fair share of taxes The GOP cry goverment is to big ok then first lets end Bush's expanded goverment and do away with his homeland defence agency after all it's nothing but a make you feel a false sense of safty second end corpate wellfare the oil companies need no help third defense spending lets shut down some of our overseas bases and keep only the truely needed ones open fourth end the BUSH BS tax cuts for the rich and go back to the 2000 tax rates and the world would not end fifth do away with the tax welfare for big bussness and stop these tax agreements where the end up paying almost nothing talking about the tv ads that ask have you past due taxes and owe more then 10 grand call us and you'll pay pennies on the dollar sixth cut the payroll of the house senate and whitehouse all three are way over paid and all deserve a 30% pay cut seventh cut out taxpayers from have to pay for all former presidents to have a office and all expanes paid for from taxpayers,if BUSH CLINTON BUSH wants an office and staff well fine make them pay for it themselves edightth end all aid to other countries the GOP claim we are broke so end aid for for outside countries tenth stop paying illegals collage healthcare food housing school and all other goodies the leetch one too they don't belong here and these funds should go to US born citizens who need the help Jerseygirl Jen Last edited by transjen; 04-10-2011 at 04:11 PM. |
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A paycut is good idea for politicians everywhere. But when has any politician ever taken a pay cut. They all prefer to oink at the public trough.
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I like the way the Athenians selected their legislators. Eligible candidates names from representative segments of the society were put in a hat and then selected by drawing for one term. Oh by the way, they paid there own way. No campains, no politics, no huge campaign funds, no bull shit. They just served their country as a citizen for a period of time.
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Here is an example.
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"I hope you realize that my post is intended to stimulate the discussion, "stir the pot" so to speak.
R" Now is this a stir to the right or left? Or does it just boil? Last edited by SSL; 04-12-2011 at 01:21 PM. Reason: Deliberately provoking another member |
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Am I boiling? YES The behavior of our government, Republicans and Democrats alike are threatening our way of life by ignoring the real issues facing the country and the world. birth control food supply energy supply climate change
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I wonder how many politicians read this forum for it's POLITICAL content? (No doubt some come here for ,,,,research. ) I think if I wanted to make a serious political statement I'd be on a political forum. |
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Fran, keep out of politics. These guys don't "get your drift".
They certainly don't like getting burned by the fiesty bitch. Do what you do best. Now if you want to tease them 'til they play with themselves, get into another thread/s,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and maybe out of yours? |
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What's the name of that song "Baby it hurts so good"?
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