Hockey 2010-2011

[transjen]

Originally Posted by smc

I lived in Kansas City for a few years a long time ago. It was only a couple of years after the Scouts had moved to Colorado. I was quite vocal about being a Bruins fan, and I must say that I never found a single person who a) gave a rat's ass about hockey or b) even remembered that Kansas City had recently had a hockey team!

What would there reaction have been if you were as vocal about the RED SOX? as it sounds like you were there where the Royals were a top team

Flyersfan Jen

[smc]

Originally Posted by transjen

What would there reaction have been if you were as vocal about the RED SOX? as it sounds like you were there where the Royals were a top team

Flyersfan Jen

Leave it to you, Jen, to catch that ...

By "vocal," I mean I talked about hockey when sports came up. And yes, the Royals were doing well. I went to lots of games at that ridiculous stadium with the fountains, and never missed a game when the Sox were in town. But rooting for a different team than the Royals while in Kansas City does not result in the death threats and invective that Phillies fans would inflict!

[shadows]

Originally Posted by transjen

Don't laught i heard on the radio today coming home from work that Kanas City is talking to the NHL about getting a NHL franchise
so could this be the return of the Kanas city Scouts
for those new to hockey the Scouts become the Rockies who became the Devils

Flyersfan Jen

They better not get a team before Winnipeg.

[shadows]

What a horrifying hit by Chara. I think that he will probably be getting a suspension for it. I thought Pacioretty had broken his neck! Scary, scary indeed!

[transjen]

Originally Posted by shadows

They better not get a team before Winnipeg.

There's a lots of other areas that deserve a NHL franchise more then KC but sadly Battman loves putting teams in areas that prefer nascar and WWE and monster truck rallies

Flyersfan Jen

[shadows]

Originally Posted by transjen

There's a lots of other areas that deserve a NHL franchise more then KC but sadly Battman loves putting teams in areas that prefer nascar and WWE and monster truck rallies

Flyersfan Jen

I can't think of a more deserving name for him than Buttman, as that is what his head is shoved up the majority of the time!

[smc]

Originally Posted by shadows

What a horrifying hit by Chara. I think that he will probably be getting a suspension for it. I thought Pacioretty had broken his neck! Scary, scary indeed!

You are absolutely correct to use the word "horrifying," and I have no problem calling out even a member of my beloved Bruins for a dirty hit. However, having looked at the replay several times now, I think that while horrifying this was not dirty. It was big, but it didn't come from behind Pacioretty. Chara was skating along the boards and at the side of Pacioretty, and to finish a check leaned on him very heavily. Pacioretty's head and neck snapped against the stanchion -- and that wa indeed horrifying and very, very scary.

Chara is not even remotely known as a dirty player. He does battle for position, and uses his size (he's a good 7 inches taller than Pacioretty).

While Habs coach Jacques Martin has been insisting it was a dirty hit and has called for the league to review the tape, I think the tape doesn't lie.

However, I think Chara will get a suspension anyway. Why? The league has been so inconsistent about this growing problem that it will see an opportunity to look tough -- an opportunity it cannot pass up. And this will be exacerbated by the size difference between Chara and Pacioretty, which will make it even easier to defend a suspension.

I hope Pacioretty is okay!

[smc]

^^^^^

Canadiens head coach Jacques Martin updated the media on Max Pacioretty’s status this morning:

"Max Pacioretty has a severe concussion, as well as a fracture of the fourth cervical vertebrae, but it’s not displaced. Max will remain at the hospital for further observation. There will be no other prognosis for the time being, but he will obviously be out indefinitely. The most important thing for our organization right now is Max’s recovery. We will continue following recommendations from the doctors and of course, Max and his immediate family would appreciate privacy in this matter."

The NHL review of the incident resulted in a ruling that Chara did not intend to injure Pacioretty. Mike Murphy, senior VP of hockey operations, released this statement on behalf of the league:

"After a thorough review of the video I can find no basis to impose supplemental discipline. This hit resulted from a play that evolved and then happened very quickly -- with both players skating in the same direction and with Chara attempting to angle his opponent into the boards. I could not find any evidence to suggest that, beyond this being a correct call for interference, that Chara targeted the head of his opponent, left his feet or delivered the check in any other manner that could be deemed to be dangerous."

I am surprised by this, although it is clearly the correct call (as you can see from this video). Note that this is from the Bruins broadcast, so there is some bias -- although it turns out that Andy Brickley's assessment of Chara's hit is correct:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QPHHd6jmMo

It was clearly interference. The game misconduct and throwing Chara out of the game might have been an overreach, but understandable under the immediate circumstances. Regardless, though, I think Murphy's statement demonstrates that the NHL is thinking through how to avoid knee-jerk reactions to the roughness that is part and parcel of hockey while at the same time dealing with the growing number of dirty hits (which this was not). I don't think many of us who discuss hockey here have had occasion to say that the league got one right, but I hope we can agree this time.

[ila]

Originally Posted by smc

^^^^^

Canadiens head coach Jacques Martin updated the media on Max Pacioretty’s status this morning:

"Max Pacioretty has a severe concussion, as well as a fracture of the fourth cervical vertebrae, but it’s not displaced. Max will remain at the hospital for further observation. There will be no other prognosis for the time being, but he will obviously be out indefinitely. The most important thing for our organization right now is Max’s recovery. We will continue following recommendations from the doctors and of course, Max and his immediate family would appreciate privacy in this matter."

The NHL review of the incident resulted in a ruling that Chara did not intend to injure Pacioretty. Mike Murphy, senior VP of hockey operations, released this statement on behalf of the league:

"After a thorough review of the video I can find no basis to impose supplemental discipline. This hit resulted from a play that evolved and then happened very quickly -- with both players skating in the same direction and with Chara attempting to angle his opponent into the boards. I could not find any evidence to suggest that, beyond this being a correct call for interference, that Chara targeted the head of his opponent, left his feet or delivered the check in any other manner that could be deemed to be dangerous."

I am surprised by this, although it is clearly the correct call (as you can see from this video). Note that this is from the Bruins broadcast, so there is some bias -- although it turns out that Andy Brickley's assessment of Chara's hit is correct:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QPHHd6jmMo

It was clearly interference. The game misconduct and throwing Chara out of the game might have been an overreach, but understandable under the immediate circumstances. Regardless, though, I think Murphy's statement demonstrates that the NHL is thinking through how to avoid knee-jerk reactions to the roughness that is part and parcel of hockey while at the same time dealing with the growing number of dirty hits (which this was not). I don't think many of us who discuss hockey here have had occasion to say that the league got one right, but I hope we can agree this time.

At 10 seconds into the video Chara clearly has his right foot off the ice. This doesn't necessarily indicate a dirty hit, only that Chara was able to put more force behind his bodycheck.

[smc]

Originally Posted by ila

At 10 seconds into the video Chara clearly has his right foot off the ice. This doesn't necessarily indicate a dirty hit, only that Chara was able to put more force behind his bodycheck.

"Able to" -- yes, but the question is one of intent. As someone who skates and plays hockey, I know that there are lots of times when I have a foot off the ice. I think that plus the particular location of the bodycheck was a combination for disaster, but it still doesn't indicate intent. True, Pacioretty and Chara have some history, but Chara just has zero reputation for being a dirty player.

If I thought there was intent, I'd be screaming for a suspension -- not that my voice matters. But I have argued long and hard with my Bruins fans friends about how Andrew Ference was treated after his statement criticizing a teammate for a questionable hit, and I had an argument with Mike Milbury about it a few weeks ago at the store in my neighborhood he shops at!

[ila]

Originally Posted by smc

"Able to" -- yes, but the question is one of intent. As someone who skates and plays hockey, I know that there are lots of times when I have a foot off the ice. I think that plus the particular location of the bodycheck was a combination for disaster, but it still doesn't indicate intent. True, Pacioretty and Chara have some history, but Chara just has zero reputation for being a dirty player.

If I thought there was intent, I'd be screaming for a suspension -- not that my voice matters. But I have argued long and hard with my Bruins fans friends about how Andrew Ference was treated after his statement criticizing a teammate for a questionable hit, and I had an argument with Mike Milbury about it a few weeks ago at the store in my neighborhood he shops at!

I agree that there it looks like there was no intent to injure. My comment was in response to Mike Murphy's comment that Chara's feet were not off the ice. I'm not convinced that interference should have been called against Chara, either.

[smc]

This reminds me of when U.S. Senator Arlen Spector of Pennsylvania, a rabid fan of the Philadelphia Eagles football team, wanted to open a Congressional investigation into allegations that the New England Patriots had cheated by videotaping illegally during games. Surely the Montreal police, just like the U.S. Senate, have more important things to do with their time.

Good for Pacioretty for calling this investigation ridiculous, in so many words.


Montreal police investigating Chara's hit on Pacioretty

BOSTON (AP) -- Montreal police started a criminal investigation Thursday into the on-ice hit by Boston's Zdeno Chara that left the Canadiens' Max Pacioretty with a severe concussion and cracked vertebra.

Police said they are acting on a request by Quebec's director of criminal and penal prosecutions, Louis Dionne. After evidence is collected, it will be determined if there are grounds for prosecution, they said.

But Pacioretty said he doesn't want Chara prosecuted.

"I sincerely appreciate all of the support that I have received since my injury," he said in a statement. "I was disappointed that the NHL did not suspend Zdeno Chara. However, I have no desire for him to be prosecuted legally. I feel that the incident, as ugly as it was, was part of a hockey game.

"I understand that this is not my decision. I have respect and admiration for the authorities in Quebec. I simply wanted to make my opinion clear."

Also Thursday, Air Canada told the NHL it's considering withdrawing its sponsorship unless the league tightens rules to reduce potentially serious injuries. Commissioner Gary Bettman responded that his teams could retaliate by deciding to stop using Air Canada for charter flights, an important source of revenue for the airline.

Chara did not speak at length on the investigation when he talked after the Bruins' morning skate.

"I got some media information on that this morning," he said. "But like I said, right now, I'm focusing on playing my game, and playing hockey."

Chara, who said he had no intent to hurt Pacioretty, was given a major penalty for interference and a game misconduct on the play Tuesday. The Bruins captain has never been suspended in his 13-year career.

The NHL said Wednesday it would not suspend Chara for slamming Pacioretty into a padded stanchion supporting a glass partition. Pacioretty, 22, was released from the hospital Thursday and was resting at home, his agent said.

Among Thursday's other developments:

-Canadiens owner Geoff Molson said in an open letter to the team's fans that "the Montreal Canadiens organization does not agree" with NHL's decision not to suspend Chara.

-In Toronto, Prime Minister Stephen Harper said the NHL, "for its own sake," should look seriously at the increase in serious injuries.

-NHL Players' Association executive director Don Fehr called for "maximizing the safety" in the area of the rink where the hit occurred and said the union would inspect the rink in Montreal "and elsewhere as needed, to make sure the appropriate padding is in place."

The league's general managers are expected to again address hits to the head at their annual meeting next week in Florida.

The Bruins entered Thursday night's game against the Buffalo Sabres with 84 points, tops in the Northeast Division. Montreal was in second place with 81 before its game versus the St. Louis Blues.

Pacioretty, who has 14 goals and 10 assists in 37 games, is out indefinitely.

"He has a right to be emotional and I respect that," Chara said. "I'm wishing him a fast recovery and hopefully he can be back on the ice soon and that's all we love to do. Obviously, when we go out there, we take risks. And sometimes, we do get hurt. But, it's just very unfortunate."

Bettman said in Washington, D.C., after a congressional panel discussion about encouraging youngsters to play hockey that "our hockey operations people are extraordinarily comfortable with the decision" to let Chara play.

"It was a horrific injury, we're sorry that it happened in our fast-paced, physical game, but I don't think whether or not supplemental discipline was imposed would change what happened and, in fact, the people in the game who I have heard from, almost to a person ... believe that it was handled appropriately," he said.

The league said it was "a hockey play that resulted in an injury because of the player colliding with the stanchion and then the ice surface."

Molson called news of the decision "a hard blow for both the players and fans of the Montreal Canadiens." He said Bettman had agreed to make the issue a priority at the upcoming GM meetings and added the decision "was one which shook the faith that we, as a community, have in this sport that we hold in such high regard."

Julien's team, on a two-game skid headed into Thursday, will need to maintain focus as this cloud hovers.

"There's still things hanging over our heads," he said. "It doesn't seem to want to disappear. It's not an easy situation because we understand that there's a player that's injured."

Bettman also said Pacioretty's injury is part of the game. Most concussions and head injuries this season have been from accidents or players falling rather than as the result of hits, he said.

There, indeed, has been strong debate this season over injuries from hits to the head. Pittsburgh star Sidney Crosby is among those sidelined with such an injury.

Montreal coach Jacques Martin, like Julien, will need to keep his team level headed. "Our mandate is to focus on the game," he said. "Hopefully next week, (the players) will be in better spirits."

The request for an investigation was filed by Dionne after he watched footage of Chara's hit, his spokeswoman said.

"Like all police investigations, evidence will be gathered and an investigation report will be submitted ... to see whether there's grounds for prosecution," spokeswoman Martine Berube said.

Chara was not in the starting lineup against the Sabres. But when he took the ice, and threw his first check of the night, the crowd cheered and chanted, "Cha-ra, Cha-ra" for about 20 seconds.

[dauls]

The Devils bounce back from Tuesday night's defeat by the Senators to steal another extra point with only 41.3 seconds of overtime remaining.

...still only 8pts behind both 7th and 8th in the East.

[dauls]

Another win stolen in OT when Anssi Salmela scored his first goal in 13 months.

...only 6tps behind 8th in the East.

[shadows]

Originally Posted by dauls

Another win stolen in OT when Anssi Salmela scored his first goal in 13 months.

...only 6tps behind 8th in the East.

Yeah, but Ottawa didn't do either of our teams a favour today as they lost 6-4 to Buffalo. Anderson picked a fine time to suck ass, especially since Buffalo was using their backup goalie for this game!

Now Toronto is 6 points back again and New Jersey 8 points back.

[smc]

Originally Posted by shadows

Yeah, but Ottawa didn't do either of our teams a favour today as they lost 6-4 to Buffalo. Anderson picked a fine time to suck ass, especially since Buffalo was using their backup goalie for this game!

Now Toronto is 6 points back again and New Jersey 8 points back.

Hey, don't knock sucking ass until you've tried it!

[transjen]

Originally Posted by smc

Hey, don't knock sucking ass until you've tried it!

AHH no thanks i'll pass on that one

Flyersfan Jen

[shadows]

Originally Posted by smc

Hey, don't knock sucking ass until you've tried it!

I will admit that I have never tried it, but that doesn't change the fact that Ottawa did not do what they were supposed to do.

[shadows]

Originally Posted by transjen

AHH no thanks i'll pass on that one

Flyersfan Jen

What happened with the Flyers last night? They had a lead and then seemed to fall apart in the third period(giving up 4 goals!) before losing in OT.

[dauls]

A great 4-2 victory for the Devils after trailing the Thrashers 2-0 late in the first period.

...only 6pts behind 8th in the East.

[transjen]

Originally Posted by shadows

I will admit that I have never tried it, but that doesn't change the fact that Ottawa did not do what they were supposed to do.

Like i said the Flyers are playing wearing the Devils uniform and the Flyers got stuck with the players from the Devils

At least they beat the Panthers tonight
Flyersfan Jen

[dauls]

Damn! Devils suffer a second loss to Ottawa in nine days.

...still only 6pts behind 8th in the East.

[dauls]

Lost 3-0 to the Caps even though we outshot them 33-12.

...still 6pts behind 8th in the East.

[ila]

Originally Posted by dauls

Lost 3-0 to the Caps even though we outshot them 33-12.

...still 6pts behind 8th in the East.

I really don't like the Caps at all. And they beat Montreal just a couple of nights ago. Your news isn't making that loss any better, dauls.

[Captn Sacto]

I have compiled attendance figures for the 2010-2011 season. The list is complete through yesterday?s games. The numbers do not include the opening week games played in Europe. The figures are from the ESPN website which list attendance and per cent of capacity.

Eleven teams have sold out all of their home games. Five of the six Canadian teams and six of the twenty-four US teams. The Senator?s are the lone Canadian team and have averaged 98.1% of capacity. The six US teams that have sold out every game are the Blackhawks, Blues, Bruins, Capitals, Penguins and the Sharks. Even though the Flyers have not sold out every game, they are still averaging over 100% capacity. Not sure how they figured out capacity. The Blackhawk?s have been as much as 12% over capacity. The fire marshal here would never let that happen. The other odd situation was with the Kings. 27 of there 34 games have exactly the same attendance of 18,118 people, which is 97.9% capacity. I would think they wouldn?t have the same figure all the time unless that was all they could seat.

As far as average attendance the top 5 are:
1) Blackhawks - 21,370
2) Canadians ? 21,273
3) Flames ? 19,783
4) Flyers ? 19,685
5) Red Wings ? 19,541

At the other end of the spectrum, three teams have average less than 70% capacity. The Islanders, Coyotes and Thrashers. The only other team below 80% is the Blue Jackets.

The bottom 5 teams in average attendance are:
1) Islanders ? 10,352
2) Coyotes ? 11,622
3) Thrashers ? 12,892
4) Blue Jackets ? 13,450
5) Devils ? 14,507

The Ducks, Stars and Avalanche are all just barely above the Devils and also less than 15,000.

Considering the fact that the Coyotes and Thrashers are both fighting for play-off spots while the Islanders have been pretty bad all year, I would consider them as the two teams with the least hometown support. The one team I was most surprised about is New Jersey. I thought they would have more support. Although it has been better the last 10 games where they are averaging almost 16,000.

FYI ? here are the southern teams:
Stars - 80.4%
Panthers ? 81.0%
Lightning ? 86.0%
Hurricanes ? 86.6%
Predators ? 93.2%

So if I were running the league I would move the Coyotes and Thrashers to Winnipeg and Hamilton. If the Islanders don?t get their attendance up, I would move them or the Blue Jackets to Quebec City.

I wouldn?t mind eliminating or moving the Stars, Panthers and Ducks. LA doesn?t need two teams and the Kings have much better supported. Heck, give Halifax a shot.

[transjen]

Well my Flyers have clinched a playoff spot
Flyersfan Jen

[shadows]

Originally Posted by dauls

Lost 3-0 to the Caps even though we outshot them 33-12.

...still 6pts behind 8th in the East.

It is 7 points now(with Buffalo getting a point today, and New Jersey getting two).

Toronto's only 5 points out, but I don't like our chances of getting in. Unfortunately the Rangers are pretty much out of reach(8 points ahead of Toronto/10 points ahead of the Devils), so the 8th spot is pretty much the only slot attainable. New Jersey has a game on hand against the Rangers, but even with that it will be very hard to reach them.

[dauls]

Shutout #115 for Brodeur -- it's made easier when he only needs to save 13 shots.

Originally Posted by shadows

It is 7 points now(with Buffalo getting a point today, and New Jersey getting two).

Toronto's only 5 points out, but I don't like our chances of getting in. Unfortunately the Rangers are pretty much out of reach(8 points ahead of Toronto/10 points ahead of the Devils), so the 8th spot is pretty much the only slot attainable. New Jersey has a game on hand against the Rangers, but even with that it will be very hard to reach them.

Damn Buffalo with an OT loss today, following on from their 8-2 thrashing of Atlanta last night.

Unfortunately for us, the Rangers and Sabres have found a bit of good form this month.

...ten games left and only 7pts behind 8th in the East.

[transjen]

Am i the only one who has not intrest in watching the Penguins play without Crosby?
Flyersfan Jen

[k.sucks.you]

Just popping in to say that I want Detroit. Two points ahead of the sharks now.

It's going to be a crazy end to a crazy regular season. I don't know about you, but our last 8 games are in our division, and with the race so tight almost anything can happen. With that scenario it looks like at least one team in the pacific won't make the playoffs. Could be anyone.

Logan Couture, your 2011 NHL rookie of the year, crashed into the boards chasing the puck on the forecheck, and was carried into the dressing room in the last game against the Blues. Replays looked like he broke his knee or something; Horrible and ugly twisty thing. He's listed as day-to-day, and he's young, so maybe he'll be back. We need him!

-K

[transjen]

Went to the Flyers/Caps game tonight ever wore a retro Bobby Clarke Jersey and sure enought the Flyers lost in a shoot out
I really hate the shoot out crap it's hockeys verson of basketballs slam dunk geared foe a seven year old and those with the mentality of a secen year old
At least i got a cheesesteak from Pat's
Flyersfan Jen

[shadows]

Originally Posted by dauls

Shutout #115 for Brodeur -- it's made easier when he only needs to save 13 shots.



Damn Buffalo with an OT loss today, following on from their 8-2 thrashing of Atlanta last night.

Unfortunately for us, the Rangers and Sabres have found a bit of good form this month.

...ten games left and only 7pts behind 8th in the East.

Yep. Buffalo and the Rangers picked a lousy time to go on a hot streak. Carolina won tonight as well, but I am not too worried about them.

The Devils lost tonight and I honestly think that pretty much cooked their goose. They are now 9 points behind Buffalo for 8th spot(with 9 games left). Toronto still has a (very) slim chance by winning tonight, and they remain 5 points behind Buffalo(the Buffalo/Toronto game on the 29th could be make or break, depending on how they do beforehand!).

[shadows]

Originally Posted by k.sucks.you

Just popping in to say that I want Detroit. Two points ahead of the sharks now.

It's going to be a crazy end to a crazy regular season. I don't know about you, but our last 8 games are in our division, and with the race so tight almost anything can happen. With that scenario it looks like at least one team in the pacific won't make the playoffs. Could be anyone.

Logan Couture, your 2011 NHL rookie of the year, crashed into the boards chasing the puck on the forecheck, and was carried into the dressing room in the last game against the Blues. Replays looked like he broke his knee or something; Horrible and ugly twisty thing. He's listed as day-to-day, and he's young, so maybe he'll be back. We need him!

-K

I'm not sure he's a lock for ROTY. Skinner from Carolina could also win(Hall may have had a chance before getting a season-ending injury).

Some Montreal fans(thankfully the majority of Montreal fans don't think this) seem to think that PK Subban will win it all. I don't see that happening to be honest.

I would like James Reimer to win it, but I don't think he will(or if he even played enough games to be eligible).

[k.sucks.you]

Originally Posted by shadows

I'm not sure he's a lock for ROTY. Skinner from Carolina could also win(Hall may have had a chance before getting a season-ending injury).

Some Montreal fans(thankfully the majority of Montreal fans don't think this) seem to think that PK Subban will win it all. I don't see that happening to be honest.

I would like James Reimer to win it, but I don't think he will(or if he even played enough games to be eligible).

There's really good parity in the league; almost too much. It's no surprise that the ROTY is close. It often is though.

Trash talk aside, I think it's between Skinner and Couture. Logan, to me, is clearly better when you look at the complete game. He's tough in all three zones. He doesn't just get to the net, he's working hard on defense.

Tough for a rookie goalie, especially for a Leafs goalie. :-)

[smc]

Originally Posted by transjen

Went to the Flyers/Caps game tonight ever wore a retro Bobby Clarke Jersey and sure enought the Flyers lost in a shoot out
I really hate the shoot out crap it's hockeys verson of basketballs slam dunk geared foe a seven year old and those with the mentality of a secen year old
At least i got a cheesesteak from Pat's
Flyersfan Jen

I hate the shootout, too! And I'd take Pat's over Geno's any day!!

[smc]

As the Bruins announcers said on the TV tonight, Montreal was "on the wrong side of a spanking" (which I guess might not be the case if you're into that sort of thing ).

Boston 7, Habs 0. The Bruins had a 3-0 lead at the end of the 1st period. They scored the seventh goal with two guys in the penalty box. They have pulled ahead by 5 points in the Northeast Division, and the Canadiens have only 7 games left.

A message game? To quote a famous hockey mom (who's good for nothin' else): "You betcha!"

[ila]

^Montreal is just letting Boston build up some confidence in themselves. From now on until the end of the season Montreal will show Boston how hockey is really played.

[smc]

Originally Posted by ila

^Montreal is just letting Boston build up some confidence in themselves. From now on until the end of the season Montreal will show Boston how hockey is really played.

Exactly how much of that bottle of Jameson have you had tonight, my friend?!

[ila]

Originally Posted by smc

Exactly how much of that bottle of Jameson have you had tonight, my friend?!

Not enough to ease the pain of watching the piss-poor playing of Montreal.

Did Price let his evil twin brother play tonight?

[transjen]

Come on guys can't we all get along how about we all go to Pat's for a cheesesteak
Flyersfan Jen

[ila]

Originally Posted by transjen

Come on guys can't we all get along how about we all go to Pat's for a cheesesteak
Flyersfan Jen

That sounds like a great idea.

[smc]

Originally Posted by transjen

Come on guys can't we all get along how about we all go to Pat's for a cheesesteak
Flyersfan Jen

Sure thing ... Pat's it is. Never Geno's!

[dauls]

116th shutout by Brodeur, but it's not enough on Friday in Pittsburgh.

...now 10pts behind 8th in the East.

[shadows]

Originally Posted by dauls

116th shutout by Brodeur, but it's not enough on Friday in Pittsburgh.

...now 10pts behind 8th in the East.

New Jersey is one period away from getting shut out again! They are currently down 2-0 after two periods of play. And it's against Buffalo too, damn it!

Boston already lost 1-0 to the Rangers in afternoon play, so the Rangers are pretty much a lock to get into the playoffs.

Montreal is not looking particular sharp(at least on paper, since I am not watching the game), down 1-0 to Washington with about 5 minutes left in the 2nd period. They are being out-shot 23 to 8 so far and have been penalized 4 times while Washington has yet to receive a penalty.

Tampa Bay is ahead of Carolina 3-2 with less than a minute left in the 2nd period.

Toronto has given up two PP goals to Detroit and are down 2-1 in the second period.

Lousy night for hockey to say the least.

[dauls]

Originally Posted by shadows

Lousy night for hockey to say the least.

I agree, it's a fg lousy night on the ice.

[shadows]

Originally Posted by dauls

I agree, it's a fg lousy night on the ice.

The only one of us that is happy right now is Jennifer as her Flyers are currently winning 3-1 over the Islanders.

[shadows]

And it's over. Buffalo has defeated New Jersey 2-0. That pretty much ends New Jersey's playoff drive(they are 12 points out of 8th with only 7 games left to play). They made it interesting, but they were too far out to be able to catch up.

[ila]

Originally Posted by shadows

Montreal is not looking particular sharp(at least on paper, since I am not watching the game), down 1-0 to Washington with about 5 minutes left in the 2nd period. They are being out-shot 23 to 8 so far and have been penalized 4 times while Washington has yet to receive a penalty.

Tampa Bay is ahead of Carolina 3-2 with less than a minute left in the 2nd period.

Toronto has given up two PP goals to Detroit and are down 2-1 in the second period.

I was unhappy that the CBC was showing the Toronto game tonight. With Montreal not playing good hockey I've now changed my mind and I'm glad that I'm not able to watch their latest fiasco.

[shadows]

Originally Posted by ila

I was unhappy that the CBC was showing the Toronto game tonight. With Montreal not playing good hockey I've now changed my mind and I'm glad that I'm not able to watch their latest fiasco.

I was just about to type that they had 3 minutes left to fix that, but having just checked tsn.ca I saw that Washington now has a 2-0 lead.

First time I've ever seen this on the scoresheet before:

16:49 Montreal Michael Cammalleri: 2 minutes, delaying game-puck over glass

16:49 Washington Marcus Johansson: 2 minutes, delaying game-puck over glass

[ila]

Originally Posted by shadows

I was just about to type that they had 3 minutes left to fix that, but having just checked tsn.ca I saw that Washington now has a 2-0 lead.

First time I've ever seen this on the scoresheet before:

16:49 Montreal Michael Cammalleri: 2 minutes, delaying game-puck over glass

16:49 Washington Marcus Johansson: 2 minutes, delaying game-puck over glass

That looks more like a ref's opinion than something that can be said for certain is a fact.