Ejaculation

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Originally Posted by yokayoka

i was wondering... is it really that important to you guys that she can come..? Is it less enjoyable if she doesn't?

Is it important in what context?
In porn, fantasy and dreams it is for many.
In a proper relationship it shouldn?t, and I think it isn?t.
Porn mostly shows only a distorted image of sexuality. The real thing differs from it. Common female fantasies often contain sex with strangers, this wouldn?t even work for long in real life (o.k. maybe for swingers). In a relationship sexual satisfaction is an important part for both and not a single aspect of it.

from porn we have been conditioned so to the cum shot...!!

I would think most people with a penis have conditioned their self to a cumshot. Cum is connected with a successful orgasm.

Originally Posted by randolph

With Tantric Yoga, its possible to enjoy hours of orgasmic pleasure without cumming. Withholding the semen results in increased and prolonged erotic sensitivity. Tantric adepts can withhold their semen for weeks or months while enjoying an active sex life.

I had never something to do with Tantric Yoga, but I managed to have orgasms without ejaculation a few times, and far from weeks or months. To some degree I can confirm what you write about it here and elsewhere, but if I don?t cum once in approximate in a 3/4hour the balls start to hurt in addition. Also an orgasm without ejaculation is placed in the lower end of the quality of orgasms. I prefer to cum.
Does the philosophies or believes of Tantra add some spirituality to it, that would make it ?better??

[randolph]

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Does the philosophies or believes of Tantra add some spirituality to it, that would make it ?better??

Yes indeed, this involves the kundalini aspect of Tantric Yoga. It is the discovery of the inner female, often call Uma Parvati, the goddess of knowledge and wisdom. Worshiping her brings on unimagined bliss.

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Originally Posted by randolph

Yes indeed, this involves the kundalini aspect of Tantric Yoga. It is the discovery of the inner female, often call Uma Parvati, the goddess of knowledge and wisdom. Worshiping her brings on unimagined bliss.

Aside the religious aspects, do you walk around with ?blue balls?? Does it become irrelevant because of the spiritual benefits? Does this work to withhold your ejaculation that long or even for years? Is it ?permitted? to cum from time to time in Tantric Yoga, or is it generally bad for your Life energy? Do nocturnal emissions happen?

[randolph]

Originally Posted by Tread

Aside the religious aspects, do you walk around with ?blue balls?? Does it become irrelevant because of the spiritual benefits? Does this work to withhold your ejaculation that long or even for years? Is it ?permitted? to cum from time to time in Tantric Yoga, or is it generally bad for your Life energy? Do nocturnal emissions happen?

Cumming is whenever the adept feels it's time to release the accumulated energy.
Nocturnal emissions? They stopped when I started fantasizing about shemales. By the way the concept of male/female merging is a significant part of Tantric Yoga. In some areas of India, transsexuals are worshiped as goddesses.

The following is from Catherine Ironwolde at luckymojo.com

NEUROLOGICAL CLUES TO A SPIRITUAL MYSTERY
In the 1950s (before he got into dolphin brain research), John C. Lilly did some neurological studies of monkeys. His published notes reveal that he found four points in the brain that control the sexual response of (male) monkeys. He used males because their sexual responses (tumescence, ejaculation, etc.) were easier to see and thus to quantify than the responses of female monkeys -- but the mechanism is the same in both sexes.
According to Lilly, the first neural point in the series regulated arousal (erection). The second point regulated muscular contraction (ejaculation). The third point regulated the orgasm itself (sensation of sexual culmination). The fourth point he called the "master switch," for when it was stimulated, it entrained the three previously-mentioned centers, causing the monkey to experience erection, ejaculation, and orgasm in the usual predictable order.
Although Lilly himself did not try to apply this research to human beings, i think that his discovery of these four points in the brains of monkeys indicate that it is possible, through conscious and learned control, for us to separate the entrainment center from the process and thus experience erection (circulatory system), ejaculation (muscular system), or orgasm (neural system) independent of each other.
We all have experienced this disassociation of the entrainment center at one time or another (not always under our conscious volition) as when, for instance, we achieve tumescence but not orgasm, or have an "involuntary" ejaculation, or have an "unsatisfying" orgasm in which the contractions do not bring the normal degree of sensory pleasure. What tantra and karezza teach is how to control these things so that one can experience orgasm without contraction, thus prolonging it beyond the biologically-regulated constraint imposed by the amount of time it takes to complete the 8-25 contractions you would normally have.
So -- in strictly biological terms -- the practice of tantra or karezza can be seen as somewhat akin to the practice of biofeedback training. It is sort of like learning to wiggle your ears -- it's something you have to work at, because the volitional control of the musculature involved is not part of our usual training in life.
So where does the experience of spirituality come from? That, i have come to believe, is part of our neurological hard-wiring too. Human beings seem to be naturally equipped to experience the metaphysical world. Many ages-old techniques for perceiving the realm of spirit make use of repetition (of hymns, prayers, chants, dances) while engaging in single-minded attentiveness to cosmic forces. Tantra provides both repetition and attentiveness. It is not the only way to achieve spiritual bliss, as its religious practitioners may assert, but it is one way, and that is good enough for me.