Dating a transsexual woman.

[JodieTs]

Originally Posted by Trogdor

.....however, in South Eastern Michigan

Ok,
going with your {totally wrong*} premise
that the vast majority of hot single pre-op Transsexual women
live in LA or NY,
why do you stay in South Eastern Michigan?
Is it the weather?
or caring for an elderly relative?
or do you have a really good career there and moving would compromise this?

or just maybe, you are married or in a long term relationship
but are bored and want a (secret) Trans-variant partner
{for whenever you can slip away from the wife for a couple of hours}?

Seriously, why do you stay there?



*actually so very wrong, that it's brimming over with wrongability**
so much so that you e are in fact a Smeg-head***


**stolen from Red Dwarf


***Also stolen from Red Dwarf

[Trogdor]

Originally Posted by JodieTs

Ok,
going with your {totally wrong*} premise
that the vast majority of hot single pre-op Transsexual women
live in LA or NY,
why do you stay in South Eastern Michigan?
Is it the weather?
or caring for an elderly relative?
or do you have a really good career there and moving would compromise this?

or just maybe, you are married or in a long term relationship
but are bored and want a (secret) Trans-variant partner
{for whenever you can slip away from the wife for a couple of hours}?

Seriously, why do you stay there?

I'm stuck in Michigan because of a little something I have called MY JOB. Shit, I'm one of the few people in my neighborhood to still actually have some type of income that has nothing to do with unemployment, social security or food stamps. And in these economic times, one can't simply go, "Hey, I'll buy me a place out in California and/or New York!", this is not the 1990's. And yes, I was helping to care for my dad, whom I lost this past summer.

And nope....I was smart enough to NOT get married. Besides, I already stated, I am through with ggirls. And I am not one of those little pussies who wants a TS girl, but don't want anyone to know. Find me a nice one, and she better buy anew pair of shoes, cause we'd be going out each night. Anyone who knows me knows that I hate secrecy in general.

So, once I have a nice chunk of $ saved up, or the cost of living in those states goes down, I'll be more than happy to leave. And to those married guys/girls you mentioned, who are miserable and bored with their white picket fence life, I only got one word for them.......suckers. XD

And to SMC, I'm saying those guys in the coastal regions don't know how good they got it....hot babes grow on trees over there, not here. They only got about 10,000,000 to browse through. If they had only a very limited few to pick through, I'd say they can be as irritated as I am, but they don't.

[JodieTs]

Originally Posted by Trogdor

I'm stuck in Michigan because of a little something I have called MY JOB.
And yes, I was helping to care for my dad, whom I lost this past summer.
NOT married

...those guys in the coastal regions don't know how good they got it....hot babes grow on trees over there, not here. They only got about 10,000,000 to browse through.

Ok thank you for that.
I respect your reasons for staying.
Moving to LA would be a huge mistake for you
as you would ending up throwing a good job for a fantasy which is wrong. You would get to LA and find Ts's as rare as in your home town.

That leaves you two options which will become one.
Stay where you are,
Wait for global warming to cause sea levels and climate to alter. Soon, Michigan will be the new LA.
And you know what, you still won't see any Ts's there.

Reason. You only want to date ts who appears day to day, indistinguishable from a biofemale.
There may be a thousand Ts like that already
in your part of town. {makes you think, yes?}


Anyway, I know a lot of trans women here in the UK.
What's the name of the English Ts you have the hots for, and what town is she in?
I figure that if you are aware of her then it's 85% sure I have her number and 36% probability she is already on my speeddial.
I can put in a good word for you.

[Trogdor]

Originally Posted by JodieTs

Ok thank you for that.
I respect your reasons for staying.
Moving to LA would be a huge mistake for you
as you would ending up throwing a good job for a fantasy which is wrong. You would get to LA and find Ts's as rare as in your home town.

That leaves you two options which will become one.
Stay where you are,
Wait for global warming to cause sea levels and climate to alter. Soon, Michigan will be the new LA.
And you know what, you still won't see any Ts's there.

Reason. You only want to date ts who appears day to day, indistinguishable from a biofemale.
There may be a thousand Ts like that already
in your part of town. {makes you think, yes?}


Anyway, I know a lot of trans women here in the UK.
What's the name of the English Ts you have the hots for, and what town is she in?
I figure that if you are aware of her then it's 85% sure I have her number and 36% probability she is already on my speeddial.
I can put in a good word for you.

You say yo got all the answers, then how do I meet a nice one, and remember, I'm through with ggirls. and you still need to prove to me they are rare in those places, since on all the forums I am on, 98% of the nice transgirls I know are IN those places.

Also, I think the whole global warming thing is a crock. And no, I am not a right-wing lunatic.

She has not been online for over a month. She's not on MSN and no e-mail replies.

[smc]

Originally Posted by Trogdor

You say yo got all the answers, then how do I meet a nice one, and remember, I'm through with ggirls. and you still need to prove to me they are rare in those places, since on all the forums I am on, 98% of the nice transgirls I know are IN those places.

Also, I think the whole global warming thing is a crock. And no, I am not a right-wing lunatic.

She has not been online for over a month. She's not on MSN and no e-mail replies.

ANTI-SCIENCE MARCHES ON!

1. 98% of the girls Trogdor knows from Internet forums are in a particular place. Using an Internet forum as a statistical measure of anything is ANTI-SCIENTIFIC.

2. "The whole global warming thing is a crock." Perhaps, but GLOBAL CLIMATE CHANGE is not ... unless you're ANTI-SCIENCE.

And you clearly are, because you keep repeating the same ridiculous percentages that Jodie and others point out to you AS ridiculous. That you are ANTI-SCIENCE ain't rocket science.

Thank goodness that the entire world doesn't run on "facts" that are expressly based on the individual experiences of people. Imagine how tough circumnavigating the GLOBE would be ... among other things. Trogdor, have you been to China? I'm guessing probably not. How can you be sure it exists. Those pictures on the TV might be made up by someone who wants you to think there's a China. (If you've been to China, substitute somewhere you haven't been.)

[Trogdor]

Originally Posted by smc

ANTI-SCIENCE MARCHES ON!

1. 98% of the girls Trogdor knows from Internet forums are in a particular place. Using an Internet forum as a statistical measure of anything is ANTI-SCIENTIFIC.

2. "The whole global warming thing is a crock." Perhaps, but GLOBAL CLIMATE CHANGE is not ... unless you're ANTI-SCIENCE.

And you clearly are, because you keep repeating the same ridiculous percentages that Jodie and others point out to you AS ridiculous. That you are ANTI-SCIENCE ain't rocket science.

Thank goodness that the entire world doesn't run on "facts" that are expressly based on the individual experiences of people. Imagine how tough circumnavigating the GLOBE would be ... among other things. Trogdor, have you been to China? I'm guessing probably not. How can you be sure it exists. Those pictures on the TV might be made up by someone who wants you to think there's a China. (If you've been to China, substitute somewhere you haven't been.)

I was talking to Jodie, not you.

[smc]

Originally Posted by Trogdor

I was talking to Jodie, not you.

On the issue of Trogdor, Jodie and I seem to speak in one voice with two different accents. Besides, if you don't want others to chime in, write PMs.

[JodieTs]

Originally Posted by Trogdor

You say yo got all the answers,
then how do I meet a nice one

The only honest way I know works,
is to transition. [not too useful, sorry.]
I just got home from a good friend, a Ts. She showed me her breast augmentation results now they've settled down. surgery was six months ago. {nice nipples}
Oh and I gave her a make up mirror.
And we drank tea, and talked about life in inner city London.

I've no idea how Joe public gets to meet lots of Ts women.
Especially as they clearly wouldn't be in the highly secret Ts-guild.

Originally Posted by Trogdor

98% of the nice transgirls I know are IN those places.

As you have contact with Ts women on the usa coasts
or at least are aware of them,
why don't you try to engage those you find interesting, in PM's
to see if you like that person. Then see where it goes.

Originally Posted by Trogdor

She has not been online for over a month. She's not on MSN and no e-mail replies.

What;s her name and location?

[JodieTs]

Trogdor, on a more serious note
re-read my starting post in this thread.
It really answers all your questions in a general way.

I don't think anyone can add anything to that
which would help you in any useful way.

You are going to have to find your own answers and I hope
a peace with yourself.

[Trogdor]

Originally Posted by JodieTs

The only honest way I know works,
is to transition. [not too useful, sorry.]

Yes, that does not help me, too much.

Originally Posted by JodieTs

I just got home from a good friend, a Ts. She showed me her breast augmentation results now they've settled down. surgery was six months ago. {nice nipples}
Oh and I gave her a make up mirror.
And we drank tea, and talked about life in inner city London.

City life, how I miss that.

Originally Posted by JodieTs

I've no idea how Joe public gets to meet lots of Ts women.
Especially as they clearly wouldn't be in the highly secret Ts-guild.

Over here, there appears to be such guilds.

Originally Posted by JodieTs

As you have contact with Ts women on the usa coasts
or at least are aware of them,
why don't you try to engage those you find interesting, in PM's
to see if you like that person. Then see where it goes.

That's the problem, I do, but long distance relationships are always tricky, plus the fact it does not guarantee success. And like with all my attempts at relationships, something always ends up going wrong, like them disappearing forever and a day, and without any quick "I'm gonna be away for quite some time" courtesy message.

What;s her name and location?[/QUOTE]

I'll PM you that, shortly.

[ross]

i would date a transexual lady whether she was pre op or post op sadly the only ones i see are on dating sites with most of the ladies overseas and of course they have many suitors wanting them sadly some for only sex or they use them for some reason. i will be totally commited to the lady and will always treat her as the lady she is.

[sweettsuk]

Jodie my dear, take that stupid cup away from your face, you are a pretty woman don't hide it

Now when are we going to Del Aziz I'm starving

H xx

[JodieTs]

Originally Posted by sweettsuk

Jodie my dear, take that stupid cup away from your face, you are a pretty woman don't hide it

Now when are we going to Del Aziz I'm starving

H xx

Dear "sweettsuk" {if that is your real name}
This thread is my take on transsexual females reality on dating
and how the reality of which affects both said Ts's and those who wish to go out with them.

I assume that your posting on this thread indicates
that you are interested in dating a trans-woman, yes?

[davideblaine]

jodie you are absolutely right. i do hate looking at trans women as anything other than what they are, women. i do have a fantasy about women with a penis. as much as i would like to act on this im very strained. i cant move to the coast and it will be hard for me to find a good trans woman, as i am in the military. whatever benefits i would get would not transfer to any trans partner i may ever get. for the time being all i am looking for is casual interactions and possibly in the future a relationship. I have had many bad relationships where the woman has either left me for not wanting sex or bc there is a better looking guy they want. im not perfect, and i want to exp as much of this "trans dating" as i can without looking for a relationship where i will more than likely end up alone. Initially i am from the south so finding a trans woman will be hard for me in my home town. i hate ungendering, which i have realized by my past posts that i have done that.

Please everyone, understand that in my attempt to fulfill a fantasy, im looking for certain qualities, trust, respect, and above all else love.

[JodieTs]

I guess being in the military may be another layer of complication for you.
I'd prob seak out trans support and social groups on the net and interact there.
Additionally I'd seek trans social events.
A lot of Ts move through things and thus either no longer need trans friendly social spaces or they never went to tranny places in their past.
However stealth is lonely and sometime we go back to tranny social gatherings,
be they support groups, clubs, or gatherings.

So there is a suggestion.

[Artiste426]

Great forum here! I read a lot of it and will come back to read more. Thanks for all the posts.

[Tommy3069]

I want to date a transexual woman, but certain things have to be click before we would become a couple. She should be attractive, sexy and very feminine. She should be hung be able to cum also be open to try new things. Which are sexual fantasies you live only once so experience. I am now between two transexual girls, they both are really attractive.One is a bit more attractive then the other, but I will not choose her cause there is no connection and no further interest.The second one I have not approached yet with the things that interest me in a relationship with a transexual woman. As soon I tell her I hope all things will work out

[tiesjief]

Actually a great post that I enjoyed very much. It puts some things into perspective, and helps to show what a transsexual woman goes through. With supply and demand what it is, and the huge amount of work that goes into a transition, I'd think a tgirl should expect to have her pick of guys and get treated like a queen.

I do still think it's a little much to say "was it in the end, only about our cock?" Many women obviously are going to want to get SRS, and there should be no trouble accepting that. Still, physical attraction is an important part of any relationship. If it wasn't, then we'd have no trouble ever even meeting a long term partner. You could break it all the way down to the point that we're basically dating computers, if our bodies didn't matter at all. I think it's just as fair for a man to have an attraction to a woman with a penis, as it is for a woman to want SRS so she feels like her transition is complete. In the end, it seems some people just want different things, and that's completely ok.

I'll totally help pluck those stubborn jawline hairs.

[GRH]

Originally Posted by Tommy3069

I want to date a transexual woman, but certain things have to be click before we would become a couple. She should be attractive, sexy and very feminine. She should be hung be able to cum also be open to try new things. Which are sexual fantasies you live only once so experience. I am now between two transexual girls, they both are really attractive.One is a bit more attractive then the other, but I will not choose her cause there is no connection and no further interest.The second one I have not approached yet with the things that interest me in a relationship with a transexual woman. As soon I tell her I hope all things will work out

Sounds to me like you're more interested in sex by your prerequisites for TS to be "hung" and "able to cum." What if you met a girl that you clicked with, but after being on hormones for a few more years, she loses the ability to cum? Guess that would be a deal breaker for you. I find it odd that you stipulate "very feminine" alongside "hung" (which by definition is not very feminine).

Personally, when I dated...My interests were more about things like personality, interests, etc. I think you are delusional about the sort of "relationship" you are after.

[hard-on187]

Jodie I loved your perception and thoughts and it made a lot of sense to me,

I know I am a bit late to join the thread but better late than never.

[a9127]

Glad to see some of the older posters are active again. Looks like some of the posts are getting better. Maybe I'll stay afterall. But there is still a "skewed" perspective on dating (and general disrespect toward transwomen) as far as I'm concerned. You DO know it works "both ways."

You may "fantasize about" a blonde 25 year old "ladyboy" with a 9" cock and no sexual inhibitions ready to jump into bed with you on the first date but ask yourself seriously, what do you really have to offer her? Not much as it appears in some of your profile pics, avatars, and user names. Do you really think you are "god's gift to women?"

And a "pic of your dick"? Why??? To show off how "big" you are? Are you tying to impress me? Other guys? And don't tell me what a "tough guy" you are or that you own 291 guns or know "Krav Maga." Or participate in UFC. I know a thing or two about that stuff. A lot more than you do. I wish I'd never started that "Self Defense" thread. It turned into a "pissing contest" with one member even accusing me of being a "liberal commie" and threatenting to shoot me in the face. "Liberal Commie?" Me?

And yes I will shoot back (or first). Sorry... Nothing personal. I just don't take well to being threatened. The "tough guy act" ain't gonna work with me. And most people will think you are just a troll or an asshole. And the ones who used to start arguments. My God! Smc was very restrained compared to the way I would have been.

But "pics of your dick." Most women I know don't wish to recieve stuff like that. Especially early in a relationship. I've never sent any woman I've been interested in a "pic of my dick." My wife had a younger friend (really beautiful girl by the way but just divorced and "desperate" according to my wife) who sent a "tits" picture to a guy she just met. She never heard from him again.

As my wife once commented on the "personal" ads on TLB:

"They all are looking for someone "hot" but no one seems to realize they have to offer something themselves. I'm married to Andy but if I were single I would want to know something interesting about that person. What do you like to DO. What are you interested in? What do you look like? Can you make me laugh? Would you make me feel special? Where would we go on a first date? Why there? What do you do for a living?

There's a lot of things that truly matter. And they have nothing to do with cock size. I think what some of you are really looking for is an "escort" or "one night stand." There's lots of opportunities for that. But better make sure you can afford to pay fo it."

So I think you would be better off getting involved with LGBT and even Gay Pride events and workshops. Volunteer. Go to a bar that is known for having a gay and transgender clientele. Introduce yourself like you would to any woman. You'll get rejected sometimes but then... all it takes is the right one. You (and she) will be a lot better off and have the beginnings of a true relationship on which to build. Who knows you might even get lucky that night.

My post is not addressed to anyone in particular. Just based on things I've read for 10+ years on TLB. If we could only get rid of that shit and those users I think we'd have a pretty good site. I'd love to continue as a member. But not like it's been. Who knows. Maybe even some of the "old timers" will come back.