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How in the world do you equate brain transplants and body swapping? Do you think that a transplanted brain from a person of a different gender would suddenly make your body different?
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No disease is incurable. That goes against everything biologists understand. It may not be possible to develop the cure, but incurability qua incurability is a misnomer.

Physics and Chemistry may have some contradictions there... Everyone's gotta die of something, and the laws of thermodynamics say you can't live forever.
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What I mean, Anna, is not that a transplanted brain would fail to make one's body feel different. I am referring to the physical reality of the body. If a GG's brain were transplanted into my current body, I would not suddenly have a vagina.

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Physics and Chemistry may have some contradictions there... Everyone's gotta die of something, and the laws of thermodynamics say you can't live forever.
What I wrote does not state that I believe humans are immortal, as you imply. I simply wrote that the fact that we die of a disease does not mean that the disease "incurable." It may only be that we have yet to find the cure and perhaps never will. The word "incurable" is a misnomer; we should use the phrase "currently incurable" or "not yet curable" or even perhaps "never curable because we just aren't smart enough to figure it out." Disease is either an impairment of health caused by an external factor, which in theory could be eliminated (e.g., a cancer-causing agent in the drinking water), or an abnormal functioning of some part of the human body system, which in theory could be corrected so that it functions normally.

Nothing I wrote contradicts physics, chemistry, or the laws of thermodynamics.
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What I mean, Anna, is not that a transplanted brain would fail to make one's body feel different. I am referring to the physical reality of the body. If a GG's brain were transplanted into my current body, I would not suddenly have a vagina.
If a GG's brain were transplanted into your body, you would be dead (assuming your brain goes in the mecical waste bin, not into another body), and she would now have a penis.

Brain transplant is a bit of a misnomer really, you are the brain, and you are getting a new body transplanted around you.



As for incurable disease, if you die, you must die OF something, so unless you get flattened by a bus, you are dead from a disease, and as you are dead from it, it's clearly not been cured...
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If a GG's brain were transplanted into your body, you would be dead (assuming your brain goes in the mecical waste bin, not into another body), and she would now have a penis.

Brain transplant is a bit of a misnomer really, you are the brain, and you are getting a new body transplanted around you.



As for incurable disease, if you die, you must die OF something, so unless you get flattened by a bus, you are dead from a disease, and as you are dead from it, it's clearly not been cured...
Well, since with brain transplant we are discussing something completely hypothetical, and therefore with the assumption that it is possible to do without killing someone, I am going to stand by my post.

As for "incurable" -- I think I made clear what I meant. I did not contradict the notion that we die "of something." And the fact that a disease HAS NOT been cured does not make it INCURABLE qua INCURABLE -- i.e., NEVER curable -- as I wrote in my initial post. To say otherwise is to say that those who thought polio was "incurable" were correct for all time.
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Well, since with brain transplant we are discussing something completely hypothetical, and therefore with the assumption that it is possible to do without killing someone, I am going to stand by my post.

As for "incurable" -- I think I made clear what I meant. I did not contradict the notion that we die "of something." And the fact that a disease HAS NOT been cured does not make it INCURABLE qua INCURABLE -- i.e., NEVER curable -- as I wrote in my initial post. To say otherwise is to say that those who thought polio was "incurable" were correct for all time.
Sorry, double fail.

Your post is still ass backwards. You talk about putting a female brain into your body, what you should be talking about is putting your brain into a female body. Your post made no fooking sense at all.

And the fact is, either humans die from disease, or humans are immortal. The fact that pollio people could not cure polio, and now they can does not preclude the existance of a disease that is impossible to cure ever. That's like saying, "they couldn't change a man into a woman in 1900, and they can now, therefore one day they will be able to make a person into a magical dragon."
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Sorry, double fail.

Your post is still ass backwards. You talk about putting a female brain into your body, what you should be talking about is putting your brain into a female body. Your post made no fooking sense at all.

And the fact is, either humans die from disease, or humans are immortal. The fact that pollio people could not cure polio, and now they can does not preclude the existance of a disease that is impossible to cure ever. That's like saying, "they couldn't change a man into a woman in 1900, and they can now, therefore one day they will be able to make a person into a magical dragon."
It's really too bad that you choose to characterize my posts with insulting language. The fact is that I responded to the OP, who wrote about brain transplants generally (not specifically in one direction or the other), suggested there was insufficient research into the brain, and bemoaned that what research there is focuses on "trying to cure incurable diseases" rather than his transplant idea.

Of course, there is nothing that precludes the existence of an incurable disease. You would know that I agree with that statement of yours if you read my posts carefully. I am simply saying that there is also nothing that precludes that all diseases may in fact be curable but for the fact that we don't know how to do it (yet). Hence, I propose using different language -- NOT A DIFFERENT CONCEPTION OF THE OBVIOUS.

As for your last point, I think it wise not to be so dismissive of the "unbelievable" becoming reality. Where I teach and research, someone has invented a way to send actual tools by email that can be printed out on a laser printer and then constructed to do the functions of hammers and screwdrivers and saws. Someone else has created a nanotechnological system to implant a human self-generating air conditioner via a chip in the bodies of people who have to wear a lot of shit in the desert (e.g., soldiers in Iraq). Those things sound pretty unbelievable, don't you think? Whose to say definitively that magic dragons don't exist?
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I like how my thread has turned into a serious debate.... I should try to turn it back into whatever it was.

Remember in "Scooby Doo" the Movie when they all got that artifact and were transplanted into each others bodies? I got a little horny in that part.
Also, theres an Australian film called "Dating the Enemy" where a boyfriend and a girlfriend swapped bodies and had to adjust to life as each other. In the end, if I remember correctly, they go back into their own bodies and understand each other better . Theres something about this story telling device that just makes me.....well, excited.

Can anyone else name other films or TV shows where this sort of thing has happened? (Such as "Freaky Friday")
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I like how my thread has turned into a serious debate.... I should try to turn it back into whatever it was.

Remember in "Scooby Doo" the Movie when they all got that artifact and were transplanted into each others bodies? I got a little horny in that part.
Also, theres an Australian film called "Dating the Enemy" where a boyfriend and a girlfriend swapped bodies and had to adjust to life as each other. In the end, if I remember correctly, they go back into their own bodies and understand each other better . Theres something about this story telling device that just makes me.....well, excited.

Can anyone else name other films or TV shows where this sort of thing has happened? (Such as "Freaky Friday")
The 1991 film "Switch" sort of fits the bill. A chauvinist pig (played by Jimmy Smits) is murdered by his ex-girlfriends and is reincarnated as a woman (Elaine Barkin). It's a comedy.
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