a diffent kind of 'admirer'

[SluttyShemaleAnna]

Sooo, I'm hopefully meeting this guy this week, he wants me to suck his cock, to be more precise he wants me to only suck his cock.

He wants me to strip for him, pose in my underwear, he wants me too keep my knickers on the while time and stay tucked. He doesn't want to see my dick at all, then he wants me to get on my knees and give his a blowjob while he watches straight porn. I will suck and wank him in the horniest way I can, he will make me beg for it, then blow his load in my face as many times as possible, while I will not orgasm at all. He won't let me kiss him, my lips will be on his dick only, and I'll be bown on my knees as he stands over me at all times.

The last guy I was with was like this too. He wanted his cock sucked, but did not kiss tgirls and absolutely didn't want to see any cock except his own, I sucked his dick and got a rough throat fuck, then he came on my chest and I didn't cum at all. I was very satisfied with the encounter tho.

I happen to think it's sexy the powerplay in it, but I can see that it's also degrading to tgirls, tho this just makes it more taboo for me.

Any other guys like that out there? I suspect not on here, but what do you all think about this kind of guy? any other girls find it sexy or does that sound like the worst kind of guy?

[smc]

Originally Posted by SluttyShemaleAnna

Sooo, I'm hopefully meeting this guy this week, he wants me to suck his cock, to be more precise he wants me to only suck his cock.

He wants me to strip for him, pose in my underwear, he wants me too keep my knickers on the while time and stay tucked. He doesn't want to see my dick at all, then he wants me to get on my knees and give his a blowjob while he watches straight porn. I will suck and wank him in the horniest way I can, he will make me beg for it, then blow his load in my face as many times as possible, while I will not orgasm at all. He won't let me kiss him, my lips will be on his dick only, and I'll be bown on my knees as he stands over me at all times.

The last guy I was with was like this too. He wanted his cock sucked, but did not kiss tgirls and absolutely didn't want to see any cock except his own, I sucked his dick and got a rough throat fuck, then he came on my chest and I didn't cum at all. I was very satisfied with the encounter tho.

I happen to think it's sexy the powerplay in it, but I can see that it's also degrading to tgirls, tho this just makes it more taboo for me.

Any other guys like that out there? I suspect not on here, but what do you all think about this kind of guy? any other girls find it sexy or does that sound like the worst kind of guy?

I think the crux of your entire post, Anna, can be found in this quote: "... I can see that it's also degrading to tgirls, tho this just makes it more taboo for me."

As for your particular questions at the end: I am sure there are other guys like that out there. It's difficult to avoid psychoanalyzing, but it seems to me that this is a guy with a lot of "issues" to resolve. He doesn't want to see your cock, but he knows you have one. He wants to be sucked by someone with a cock, but he can't own that desire, so he seeks to mask it -- ridiculously -- by not allowing yours to be seen. The power play is that he dictates the rules, and in doing so he overcomes his cock desire for a while (or at least trumps it with something that gets him off more, which is the manipulative power of keeping yours tucked away).

I would be careful with this guy, Anna.

I won’t try to psychoanalyze him either, but I agree 100% with smc that “this is a guy with a lot of issues.” I don’t like the sound of it. Anna, I don’t know you, but I have really enjoyed your posts and I will assume you know this guy better than me. But, let me put it this way, if this were turned around and it were someone asking me to meet them under similar conditions I wouldn’t do it.

People like this can be dangerous. Please be careful.

[SJTCurious]

It sounds like you're conflicted. On the one hand it can be a lot of fun, but you really want something more.

[IronCity]

i find that rather disturbing... but if you are into that ..... go for it... just be careful that he is not a nut case that wants to harm you.

[GRH]

I wouldn't touch that with a ten foot pole. Since it seems this fellow has such a cock aversion, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he was prone to violence should something go wrong-- such as coming "untucked."

[shadows]

Hello Anna.

Unlike the fellow that you are describing in the OP, I wouldn't particular enjoy an encounter like that.

While I certainly can't judge his character just by the description in your post, I would like to add my caution along with those of the others that have already posted in the thread(the world is a crazy place sometimes).

Judging from your posts here, you have a good head on your shoulders so I imagine that you would not take any undue risks.

It's just that we are your friends and we want you to be safe.

While something like that does sound sexy - at least the submission aspect does anyway - I'm sure you've met enough people to be able to judge when somebody is a bit dodgy or not. The fact that you're posting about it on here suggests to me you've got doubts.

My main worry about somebody like that would be if he was likely to get weird afterwards. Everything will be fine just as long as he can pretend that you're not a T-gurl while you're sucking his cock - watching straight porn is a dead giveaway - but once he's cum he might feel a bit differently about it...

[franalexes]

Anna,
This guy needs a rolling fuck in an electric pencil sharpener!
A lot of guys out there have their asshole just above their neck.

[Mel Asher]

Originally Posted by franalexes

Anna,
This guy needs a rolling fuck in an electric pencil sharpener!
A lot of guys out there have their asshole just above their neck.

I agree. Unless he's interested in you getting something out of it, then don't bother. Tell him to shake hands with Number One. You have to be pretty to insensitive to accept a one-sided trade like that, and you don't come across like that to me at all.

Make kissing prerequisite, and you'll know where you stand with this guy. I think he'll head for the door !

Cheers

[Hourglass]

Doesn't sound like anyone I would want to get involved with, quite frankly.
"Admirer"? More like "abuser".

Powerplay and pleasing a lover is one thing...simply being used and not appreciated (much less respected) is another.

This has been bothering me now for two days… I have found it interesting to read what others have had to say. My problem with situations like this is that they don’t seem like a “shared” power exchange between two consenting partners. I guess that’s why I don’t understand or like most types of “bondage/torture” porn either. It looks like someone is being hurt for someone else’s pleasure.

My ex and I were pretty “vanilla.” Whenever we tried anything “kinky” we usually ended up giggling or laughing over it so much the “mood” was ruined! All of my partners have been pretty “vanilla” for that matter. My only “risky” behavior is driving too fast!

Of course there is the amount of trust and control involved as well. I have seen “domination” scenes between obviously happy and consenting couples that made it look like fun. On the other hand, much of what I’ve seen on the Internet looks like it focuses primarily on the degradation, punishment, and humiliation of women. I am afraid that this type of pornography may contribute to violence and I am especially concerned about it in the Trans community--there is already enough of a problem without making it worse.

An example of something that seemed OK to me: there is a very erotic photo set featuring Suzanny Petrovick where she and her partner are dressed like Pirates. Her hands are lightly tied in front of her and the scene progresses naturally. With both partners giving and receiving. Very sexy! And I have seen similar types of photo shoots elsewhere.

On the other hand I saw a brief clip on the Internet where a middle-aged man ordered a young woman to strip and then chained her up and slapped her around. My reaction was such that I would have liked to have turned this into a “snuff” movie with him as the “star.” (Sorry couldn’t help it… ) Perhaps this was a loving couple engaged in a consensual “power exchange” but it sure didn’t look like it to me. More like some old pervert’s sick fantasy! By contrast, there is a well known site run by a couple who are really into bondage and have posted tons of photos--some is it is quite “extreme” but I get the feeling they both enjoy it and know what they are doing. I’m OK with that. I feel similarly about Mandy's work as well.

Fantasies can be fun and unlimited--because they are fantasies. It’s when we cross over to reality that we need to exercise caution and know exactly who we are playing with. There are a lot of bad people out there--I’m sure I don’t have to remind the members of our community of that. It’s just that the issue of violence towards transsexuals is a real and important one.

I guess I would be OK with this if Anna said “my boyfriend and I decided to try…” or something like that. You just don’t know about strangers. People like John Wayne Gacy, Jeffrey Dahmer, and the "BTK" Killer all bet on that.

Sorry for such a long post!

Dr. A

[GRH]

I should clarify my stance. I'm NOT very vanilla and I like bondage and BDSM type stuff. I can understand powerplay.

And if this sort of thing turns you on Anna, then maybe you're not as bothered by it as I am.

But to me, this guy is not engaging you in a deliberate, consensual powerplay. He is engaging in a one-sided powerplay...And not because you necessarily like the feeling of being degraded or ordered around. He's engaging in it because he harbors homophobic sentiments and other issues. To me, the whole thing reeks of instability, and I wouldn't be surprised if this guy was prone to violence after the fact.

Originally Posted by GRH

I should clarify my stance. I'm NOT very vanilla and I like bondage and BDSM type stuff. I can understand powerplay.

And if this sort of thing turns you on Anna, then maybe you're not as bothered by it as I am.

But to me, this guy is not engaging you in a deliberate, consensual powerplay. He is engaging in a one-sided powerplay...And not because you necessarily like the feeling of being degraded or ordered around. He's engaging in it because he harbors homophobic sentiments and other issues. To me, the whole thing reeks of instability, and I wouldn't be surprised if this guy was prone to violence after the fact.

That's pretty much what I was trying to get at in my post above - except you put it much better

[georgesoros]

all this handling of tgirls with cottonclothed hands wont make tgirls treated like girls. affirmative action just keeps things as it is you know. if a girl can be treated in a degrading way cause she is like x, y or z... and cause she wears a, b or c. and if a girl likes to get pissed in the face cause she has a birthmark beneath her ear, and likes to get spanked on the nose cause she was abused by a wolf when she was 19, then yes, let tgirls be treated with the same respect/disrespect or they will be treated like some alien-class humans with special treatment (good and bad).

some bs from me

There have been a greater number of disrespectful posts lately--many that ungender transwomen. It’s hard to respond to some of these posts because they are so poorly written--and you don’t know who you are talking to--it could be a 12 year old, an inmate serving a life sentence, a 75 year old grandmother, or President Obama. That is part of the problem with discussion forums--anyone can post anything under the cloak of anonymity. Unlike real life where ideas have consequences.

I wonder how far in the real world some of the members here would get with anyone while displaying the attitudes towards women that they show here? I personally don’t know any women who want to be degraded, humiliated, or abused.

As for transwomen being “real women.” They are. What is it that you don’t “get” about that? It’s quite simple actually. I suggest if you are serious about learning more, you read some of the posts from transwomen on this forum and do a little research on the Internet. What you see in pornography is a fantasy. If you think that all women really want to be “dominated” or “humiliated” or “abused” then I suggest you get some professional counseling--now. Before you have bigger problems.

[smc]

Originally Posted by aw9725

... Unlike real life where ideas have consequences. ... If you think that all women really want to be ?dominated? or ?humiliated? or ?abused? then I suggest you get some professional counseling--now. Before you have bigger problems.

I wish that the OP was the only one who might have "bigger problems." I'm afraid it is women who are most at risk.

Maybe they just want to meet these two...

(Sorry couldn't help it... )

Actually they look kinda like the guys I lift with.

[The Conquistador]

Don't be droppin the soap anytime soon...

[Demonic shemale licker]

Such a nice thread, it's good to see the love in this community. I give you the same advice others have giving you in a much better way here. BE CAREFUL!

[georgesoros]

i have been with preop tgirls and i treated them with respect, no bad language, no aggression, violence, no nothing. i dont like men = masculine body+face+dick. i like tgirls, and i like that they still have a dick. then i might be classified as gay, bi, and thats ok, it doesnt bother me what the label is. the reason im mentioning this as a pretext is cause i want to get to the point which is, i like tgirls cause they have a dick, that is whats excites me. and i belive most of you here that are overly defending tgirls are simply charlatans trying to pick up some points. if youre not excited by the dick, and tgirls are simply girls, then whats the excitement about? why lurking around on this forum.

[merelypink]

sounds like a very confused man

[Amy]

Ew. TOTALLY not my thing.

[sesame]

Originally Posted by sluttyshemaleAnna

but what do you all think about this kind of guy?

I think his kind is selfish, unfeeling and exploiting. In short, a Pig.

Originally Posted by georgesoros

i have been with preop tgirls and i treated them with respect, no bad language, no aggression, violence, no nothing. i dont like men = masculine body+face+dick. i like tgirls, and i like that they still have a dick. then i might be classified as gay, bi, and thats ok, it doesnt bother me what the label is. the reason im mentioning this as a pretext is cause i want to get to the point which is, i like tgirls cause they have a dick, that is whats excites me. and i belive most of you here that are overly defending tgirls are simply charlatans trying to pick up some points. if youre not excited by the dick, and tgirls are simply girls, then whats the excitement about? why lurking around on this forum.

I don't think anyone here is "overly defending" them. Maybe some of us like beautiful women of all types. As far as "lurking" why don't you tell us a little about yourself?

[smc]

Originally Posted by georgesoros

i have been with preop tgirls and i treated them with respect, no bad language, no aggression, violence, no nothing. i dont like men = masculine body+face+dick. i like tgirls, and i like that they still have a dick. then i might be classified as gay, bi, and thats ok, it doesnt bother me what the label is. the reason im mentioning this as a pretext is cause i want to get to the point which is, i like tgirls cause they have a dick, that is whats excites me. and i belive most of you here that are overly defending tgirls are simply charlatans trying to pick up some points. if youre not excited by the dick, and tgirls are simply girls, then whats the excitement about? why lurking around on this forum.

Thanks to aw9725 for posting above and thus bringing the georgesoros post to my attention. Somehow, I had missed it.

The tendency of people to spout off without listening to carefully, or reading fully, that which they are commenting on is alive and well on this site as much as in the "real" world. georgesoros bemoans that some members here are "overly defending tgirls," which may be the case: I suppose that "overly" is in the eye of the beholder. But he completely misses what the defense is about. No one, as far as I can tell, has done any defending of the sort he implies. Rather, it is about defending the right of tgirls (indeed, of everyone) to have the final say when it comes to personal gender identification. If a particular tgirl says, "I am a woman," who is georgesoros or anyone else to say otherwise? It's not about some asinine "affirmative action" as georgesoros stated in his earlier post.

I am proud to be one of what georgesoros calls "charlatans" if defending a person's self-determination is what makes you one.

Finally, I bet the real George Soros would agree with me.

[georgesoros]

Originally Posted by smc

Thanks to aw9725 for posting above and thus bringing the georgesoros post to my attention. Somehow, I had missed it.

The tendency of people to spout off without listening to carefully, or reading fully, that which they are commenting on is alive and well on this site as much as in the "real" world. georgesoros bemoans that some members here are "overly defending tgirls," which may be the case: I suppose that "overly" is in the eye of the beholder. But he completely misses what the defense is about. No one, as far as I can tell, has done any defending of the sort he implies. Rather, it is about defending the right of tgirls (indeed, of everyone) to have the final say when it comes to personal gender identification. If a particular tgirl says, "I am a woman," who is georgesoros or anyone else to say otherwise? It's not about some asinine "affirmative action" as georgesoros stated in his earlier post.

I am proud to be one of what georgesoros calls "charlatans" if defending a person's self-determination is what makes you one.

Finally, I bet the real George Soros would agree with me.

Point taken, and yes I believe he would.