My Problems with Shemales and this kind of porn...

[racquel]

A lot of guys like being submissive now and then, and watching "shemale domination" porn is part of that. Lets be honest, most porn with aggressive genetic women is ridiculous. It's vinyl-clad dominatrix porn or girls fucking with strap-ons who obviously don't know what they're doing. There are whole niches of porn that I just can't take seriously because what I've seen of it never takes itself seriously -- like most lesbian porn where the best you can hope for is girls that want to show off for the camera but never truly seem to be into what they're doing and end up giggling half the time.

So I get the definite impression that many guys who like shemale porn basically just want a girl who knows how to be dominant. The sad part is that most transwomen (like genetic women) want to be the more sexually submissive ones most of the time, even if roles do get reversed now and then, but most guys want a tranny for their tranny-related fantasies and would much prefer a genetic woman the rest of the time to actually treat like a woman. It's often a borderline taboo-chasing compulsion. They don't actually like transwomen at all; they only like shemale porn because to them it's deviant and exciting. I suppose even guys who prefer to always be in the dominant role still often seem to only like shemales for the dirty feeling it gives them. Kinda like guys like anal more for the taboo than the actual sensation, they like trannys for the taboo and would never have any love/respect for one of the girls.

Get together all the guys in the world who like shemale porn, and 99% of them would never be seen with a tranny unless she was 100% passable (so they can hide the fact that they're with a tranny in the first place), and they would certainly never want to get dinner with a 6'0" girl like me.

I get hit on plenty in a dark bar. Average guys. Hot guys. Rich business guys. None of them want to take me out. They just want to take me back to their hotel, and that's not going to happen. There's a place I go now and then where there are usually other traans girls. Not to brag, but I'm usually getting the most attention. But the only guy who is sweet and wants to actually hang out with me is mentally disabled. Seriously, he's the janitor at the courthouse and he's a little slow. But he's the nicest guy in the world and I usually just hang out with him and play pool with him while I'm there. I get plenty free drinks from guys, but nobody else has asked me out to dinner and a movie.

I guess my point is that you're normal. I didn't mean to get going on a soapbox. There are lots of guys like you. Guys will be guys and even the ones who like shemale porn don't usually really like transgendered women. My advice to you is don't worry about it. Don't worry about whether or not you're normal. It's just porn and you like the feeling different porn gives you at different times. And you don't have to worry that it makes you gay (which is probably what's really bothering you). Gay guys don't watch tranny porn. Gay guys don't like sex with girls whether or not they have a penis. Were you in show choir in high school? Do you want to make out with a man with itchy stubble? I didn't think so. So lighten up.

If you are going to worry about something, worry about being a good person. Remember that these girls have feelings and have often experienced an incredible amount of pain because of their gender issues. And don't spend the whole rest of your life around the type of bigots who would beat you up for looking at the porn you want to look at.

[smc]

Originally Posted by racquel

Get together all the guys in the world who like shemale porn, and 99% of them would never be seen with a tranny unless she was 100% passable (so they can hide the fact that they're with a tranny in the first place), and they would certainly never want to get dinner with a 6'0" girl like me.

I get hit on plenty in a dark bar. Average guys. Hot guys. Rich business guys. None of them want to take me out. They just want to take me back to their hotel, and that's not going to happen. There's a place I go now and then where there are usually other traans girls. Not to brag, but I'm usually getting the most attention. But the only guy who is sweet and wants to actually hang out with me is mentally disabled. Seriously, he's the janitor at the courthouse and he's a little slow. But he's the nicest guy in the world and I usually just hang out with him and play pool with him while I'm there. I get plenty free drinks from guys, but nobody else has asked me out to dinner and a movie.

I guess my point is that you're normal. I didn't mean to get going on a soapbox. There are lots of guys like you. Guys will be guys and even the ones who like shemale porn don't usually really like transgendered women. My advice to you is don't worry about it. Don't worry about whether or not you're normal. It's just porn and you like the feeling different porn gives you at different times. And you don't have to worry that it makes you gay (which is probably what's really bothering you). Gay guys don't watch tranny porn. Gay guys don't like sex with girls whether or not they have a penis. Were you in show choir in high school? Do you want to make out with a man with itchy stubble? I didn't think so. So lighten up.

If you are going to worry about something, worry about being a good person. Remember that these girls have feelings and have often experienced an incredible amount of pain because of their gender issues. And don't spend the whole rest of your life around the type of bigots who would beat you up for looking at the porn you want to look at.

Raquel, I have such great respect for what you have written, and thus for you. I would be honored to take you out for dinner if you're ever in the Boston area and show you that some of us out there (as you write) are not just about the "porn." You impress me as the type of woman with whom I could have the types of meaningful, intelligent conversations that I crave.

[shadows]

Originally Posted by racquel

A lot of guys like being submissive now and then, and watching "shemale domination" porn is part of that. Lets be honest, most porn with aggressive genetic women is ridiculous. It's vinyl-clad dominatrix porn or girls fucking with strap-ons who obviously don't know what they're doing. There are whole niches of porn that I just can't take seriously because what I've seen of it never takes itself seriously -- like most lesbian porn where the best you can hope for is girls that want to show off for the camera but never truly seem to be into what they're doing and end up giggling half the time.

So I get the definite impression that many guys who like shemale porn basically just want a girl who knows how to be dominant. The sad part is that most transwomen (like genetic women) want to be the more sexually submissive ones most of the time, even if roles do get reversed now and then, but most guys want a tranny for their tranny-related fantasies and would much prefer a genetic woman the rest of the time to actually treat like a woman. It's often a borderline taboo-chasing compulsion. They don't actually like transwomen at all; they only like shemale porn because to them it's deviant and exciting. I suppose even guys who prefer to always be in the dominant role still often seem to only like shemales for the dirty feeling it gives them. Kinda like guys like anal more for the taboo than the actual sensation, they like trannys for the taboo and would never have any love/respect for one of the girls.

Get together all the guys in the world who like shemale porn, and 99% of them would never be seen with a tranny unless she was 100% passable (so they can hide the fact that they're with a tranny in the first place), and they would certainly never want to get dinner with a 6'0" girl like me.

I get hit on plenty in a dark bar. Average guys. Hot guys. Rich business guys. None of them want to take me out. They just want to take me back to their hotel, and that's not going to happen. There's a place I go now and then where there are usually other traans girls. Not to brag, but I'm usually getting the most attention. But the only guy who is sweet and wants to actually hang out with me is mentally disabled. Seriously, he's the janitor at the courthouse and he's a little slow. But he's the nicest guy in the world and I usually just hang out with him and play pool with him while I'm there. I get plenty free drinks from guys, but nobody else has asked me out to dinner and a movie.

I guess my point is that you're normal. I didn't mean to get going on a soapbox. There are lots of guys like you. Guys will be guys and even the ones who like shemale porn don't usually really like transgendered women. My advice to you is don't worry about it. Don't worry about whether or not you're normal. It's just porn and you like the feeling different porn gives you at different times. And you don't have to worry that it makes you gay (which is probably what's really bothering you). Gay guys don't watch tranny porn. Gay guys don't like sex with girls whether or not they have a penis. Were you in show choir in high school? Do you want to make out with a man with itchy stubble? I didn't think so. So lighten up.

If you are going to worry about something, worry about being a good person. Remember that these girls have feelings and have often experienced an incredible amount of pain because of their gender issues. And don't spend the whole rest of your life around the type of bigots who would beat you up for looking at the porn you want to look at.

That was very well written, Racquel.

Having read numerous of your posts here, I can tell that you are an excellent conversationalist and I am certain that talking with you over dinner would be both entertaining and enlightening. The guys that are interested only for the physical aspects are missing out on a lot, and that is truly their loss.

[racquel]

smc / shadows:

Thanks! I was generalizing about guys, but I do understand that there are some awfully nice guys here.

And I know you guys have plenty problems yourself if you're trying to date a trans girl. When I'm places where gender-bending folks hang out, it seems like the only people looking to hook up are middle-aged transvestites -- many of whom actually live as men and are married to women! These people say some pretty gross things to me, and even ones I've become friends will get out of control after a few drinks and be hounding me to see up my skirt, or my favorite line from a 50-year-old guy in a dress: "When are you gonna make a woman out of me?" Sorry, if I stick anything in your ass it's going to be my foot. Did I mention I have a handgun permit and I used to bench sets of 300 lbs. because my weight set couldn't go any higher?

I used to be pretty angry at guys. For a couple years I never dated anyone, and the few sexual encounters I had were with people who pissed me off, which I'm sure they liked since it played out like something you'd see on shemalerevenge.com... But I think I'm more normal now

Anyway, most girls you could date are just trying to blend into society, and if you go looking in places known for having t-girls you're mostly going to find prostitutes and crossdressers. So I know you guys have it kinda rough.

For a porn-related forum (or any forum), I'm kinda impressed that a few of you guys sound awfully smart and classy.

[smc]

Originally Posted by racquel

smc / shadows:

Thanks! I was generalizing about guys, but I do understand that there are some awfully nice guys here.

And I know you guys have plenty problems yourself if you're trying to date a trans girl. When I'm places where gender-bending folks hang out, it seems like the only people looking to hook up are middle-aged transvestites -- many of whom actually live as men and are married to women! These people say some pretty gross things to me, and even ones I've become friends will get out of control after a few drinks and be hounding me to see up my skirt, or my favorite line from a 50-year-old guy in a dress: "When are you gonna make a woman out of me?" Sorry, if I stick anything in your ass it's going to be my foot. Did I mention I have a handgun permit and I used to bench sets of 300 lbs. because my weight set couldn't go any higher?

I used to be pretty angry at guys. For a couple years I never dated anyone, and the few sexual encounters I had were with people who pissed me off, which I'm sure they liked since it played out like something you'd see on shemalerevenge.com... But I think I'm more normal now

Anyway, most girls you could date are just trying to blend into society, and if you go looking in places known for having t-girls you're mostly going to find prostitutes and crossdressers. So I know you guys have it kinda rough.

For a porn-related forum (or any forum), I'm kinda impressed that a few of you guys sound awfully smart and classy.

Jeez, Racquel, now you've gone and made me blush.

[shadows]

Originally Posted by racquel

smc / shadows:

Thanks! I was generalizing about guys, but I do understand that there are some awfully nice guys here.

And I know you guys have plenty problems yourself if you're trying to date a trans girl. When I'm places where gender-bending folks hang out, it seems like the only people looking to hook up are middle-aged transvestites -- many of whom actually live as men and are married to women! These people say some pretty gross things to me, and even ones I've become friends will get out of control after a few drinks and be hounding me to see up my skirt, or my favorite line from a 50-year-old guy in a dress: "When are you gonna make a woman out of me?" Sorry, if I stick anything in your ass it's going to be my foot. Did I mention I have a handgun permit and I used to bench sets of 300 lbs. because my weight set couldn't go any higher?

I used to be pretty angry at guys. For a couple years I never dated anyone, and the few sexual encounters I had were with people who pissed me off, which I'm sure they liked since it played out like something you'd see on shemalerevenge.com... But I think I'm more normal now

Anyway, most girls you could date are just trying to blend into society, and if you go looking in places known for having t-girls you're mostly going to find prostitutes and crossdressers. So I know you guys have it kinda rough.

For a porn-related forum (or any forum), I'm kinda impressed that a few of you guys sound awfully smart and classy.

Thank you for the kind words, Racquel.

What you say makes a lot of sense. Love can be found anywhere, at any time. A lot of times it happens at the places you least expect it. A chance encounter at the local library, accidentally bumping into someone in a lineup in the grocery store, seeing someone in a coffee shop and then striking up a pleasant conversation with them. Cliches, I know, but no one can really quantify love. It just is. You just have to hope you're lucky enough to find it.(I am still looking for it myself, unfortunately.)

And I must thank you for the following, as it brought a big smile to my face.

Sorry, if I stick anything in your ass it's going to be my foot. Did I mention I have a handgun permit and I used to bench sets of 300 lbs. because my weight set couldn't go any higher?

[tin]

good thread, much respect to Racquel, lovely post, im sure that helped him out a lot, it must have
good luck to him

[FlacoPro]

Originally Posted by racquel

A lot of guys like being submissive now and then, and watching "shemale domination" porn is part of that. Lets be honest, most porn with aggressive genetic women is ridiculous. It's vinyl-clad dominatrix porn or girls fucking with strap-ons who obviously don't know what they're doing. There are whole niches of porn that I just can't take seriously because what I've seen of it never takes itself seriously -- like most lesbian porn where the best you can hope for is girls that want to show off for the camera but never truly seem to be into what they're doing and end up giggling half the time.

So I get the definite impression that many guys who like shemale porn basically just want a girl who knows how to be dominant. The sad part is that most transwomen (like genetic women) want to be the more sexually submissive ones most of the time, even if roles do get reversed now and then, but most guys want a tranny for their tranny-related fantasies and would much prefer a genetic woman the rest of the time to actually treat like a woman. It's often a borderline taboo-chasing compulsion. They don't actually like transwomen at all; they only like shemale porn because to them it's deviant and exciting. I suppose even guys who prefer to always be in the dominant role still often seem to only like shemales for the dirty feeling it gives them. Kinda like guys like anal more for the taboo than the actual sensation, they like trannys for the taboo and would never have any love/respect for one of the girls.

Get together all the guys in the world who like shemale porn, and 99% of them would never be seen with a tranny unless she was 100% passable (so they can hide the fact that they're with a tranny in the first place), and they would certainly never want to get dinner with a 6'0" girl like me.

I get hit on plenty in a dark bar. Average guys. Hot guys. Rich business guys. None of them want to take me out. They just want to take me back to their hotel, and that's not going to happen. There's a place I go now and then where there are usually other traans girls. Not to brag, but I'm usually getting the most attention. But the only guy who is sweet and wants to actually hang out with me is mentally disabled. Seriously, he's the janitor at the courthouse and he's a little slow. But he's the nicest guy in the world and I usually just hang out with him and play pool with him while I'm there. I get plenty free drinks from guys, but nobody else has asked me out to dinner and a movie.

I guess my point is that you're normal. I didn't mean to get going on a soapbox. There are lots of guys like you. Guys will be guys and even the ones who like shemale porn don't usually really like transgendered women. My advice to you is don't worry about it. Don't worry about whether or not you're normal. It's just porn and you like the feeling different porn gives you at different times. And you don't have to worry that it makes you gay (which is probably what's really bothering you). Gay guys don't watch tranny porn. Gay guys don't like sex with girls whether or not they have a penis. Were you in show choir in high school? Do you want to make out with a man with itchy stubble? I didn't think so. So lighten up.

If you are going to worry about something, worry about being a good person. Remember that these girls have feelings and have often experienced an incredible amount of pain because of their gender issues. And don't spend the whole rest of your life around the type of bigots who would beat you up for looking at the porn you want to look at.

Wow thanks a lot for this advice, I guess I'll just have to see how things go for me in the future...

[FlacoPro]

Hey guys, you may have noticed that I haven't posted in a couple of weeks and that's because I was in one of the phases I mentioned earlier in the thread. For a couple of weeks there, I could only watch regular porn, tranny porn stopped arousing me yet again. But like 2days ago, I suddenly had a tremendous urge to watch tranny porn. This might sound ridiculous to some of you guys, but this is my life. It's just a dilemma. I spoke to a psychologist over the internet about this isssue, and she recommended that I reduce the amount of porn I watch in general. She said she feels like Porn for me is a drug, Its like I'll take the drug for a period of time, but after a while I'll need something stronger.

Which would explain why I would be fine watching basic porn but then after a while I would need to watch Tranny porn. Because in my mind, Tranny porn is stronger. But the thing is I don't even watch porn that much. I watch it occasionally, I'm always busy at school or work. But there are just some days, when I'm really horny + there's no one at home + and I have a computer sitting right in front of me. What am I supposed to do? And my main issue is not even accepting the fact that I like tranny porn, that doesn't bother me too much.

My issue is that how can something arouse me so much one day, and then completely disgust me at other times? Idk, I'm still trying to figure things out. But I have read the previous posts, and I appreciate everyone who has given me advice, thanks and good luck to you guys in the future. I should be around for the next couple of days, maybe even weeks depending on how long this current phase lasts. Catch you guys later...

[smc]

Originally Posted by FlacoPro

I spoke to a psychologist over the internet about this isssue, ...

You actually "see" a psychologist online? This sounds to me like the biggest scam ever, and the fact that what "she" told you about porn being a "drug" is something that you would find in any high-school psych textbook only solidifies my opinion. I hope you're not paying for this "service."

Originally Posted by smc

You actually "see" a psychologist online. This sounds to me like the biggest scam ever, and the fact that what "she" told you about porn being a "drug" is something that you would find in any high-school psych textbook only solidifies my opinion. I hope you're not paying for this "service."

Online Psychology, eh? Well, you could talk to me online if you like - my rates are very reasonable - and I might even provide some pictures as well (for a small extra fee of course) something I bet your psychologist doesn't

[The Conquistador]

Originally Posted by Natalie_J

Online Psychology, eh? Well, you could talk to me online if you like - my rates are very reasonable - and I might even provide some pictures as well (for a small extra fee of course) something I bet your psychologist doesn't

Sign me up!

[racquel]

If porn is like a drug to you, and shemale porn is "the hard stuff," why would you voluntarily stop? People don't stop shooting heroin and go back to weed.

And the concept of being disgusted with hardcore porn is not a strange one. If you liked BBW porn but didn't actually date fat girls, it would also be just a fetish to you and would disgust you at times.

[smc]

Originally Posted by Natalie_J

Online Psychology, eh? Well, you could talk to me online if you like - my rates are very reasonable - and I might even provide some pictures as well (for a small extra fee of course) something I bet your psychologist doesn't

Natalie, my darling, I need hands-on therapy from you. How can we arrange some of that?

Originally Posted by FlacoPro

...I spoke to a psychologist over the internet about this isssue, and she recommended that I reduce the amount of porn I watch in general. She said she feels like Porn for me is a drug, Its like I'll take the drug for a period of time, but after a while I'll need something stronger...

...My issue is that how can something arouse me so much one day, and then completely disgust me at other times?...

Seriously, when I suggested professional counseling, I wasn't thinking of something over the Internet. That advice sounds like something my high-school football coach might have said. Aren't there counseling resources available to you through school? You can also get your physician to refer you to someone. You sound very normal to me but it would help you to talk with someone qualified.

On a lighter note, the answer to your question is simple... They call it "marriage"! (Sorry, couldn't help it... )

[km1]

Originally Posted by racquel

A lot of guys like being submissive now and then, and watching "shemale domination" porn is part of that. Lets be honest, most porn with aggressive genetic women is ridiculous. It's vinyl-clad dominatrix porn or girls fucking with strap-ons who obviously don't know what they're doing. There are whole niches of porn that I just can't take seriously because what I've seen of it never takes itself seriously -- like most lesbian porn where the best you can hope for is girls that want to show off for the camera but never truly seem to be into what they're doing and end up giggling half the time.

Have to disagree with a lot of this. I'd post a whole wack of vids to prove myself right, but I'd get banned.

[racquel]

Originally Posted by km1

Have to disagree with a lot of this. I'd post a whole wack of vids to prove myself right, but I'd get banned.

It's very childish to say, "You're wrong. I could prove you wrong, but I don't want to."

I didn't say everybody who likes shemale porn likes shemale domination porn. And if you think a lot of guys don't like being submissive, I could show you a "wack of vids."

[km1]

Originally Posted by racquel

It's very childish to say, "You're wrong. I could prove you wrong, but I don't want to."

I didn't say everybody who likes shemale porn likes shemale domination porn. And if you think a lot of guys don't like being submissive, I could show you a "wack of vids."

Well, I am immature but I didn't say I didn't want to prove you wrong but that I couldn't, if I posted copyrighted material here I'd get banned.

Also, why would you quote my post, then reply with a paraphrase of my quote (in quotations for that matter) that isn't exactly accurate? Did I say you were wrong? No, I said I disagreed with what you said. Did I say I didn't want to? No, I said I would get banned. Did I say I don't think a lot of guys don't like being submissive? No, where does this come from? Perhaps you're just replying in general or saw what you wanted to see, like what my post actually said. I don't know about "a lot" of guys, but I know about me and what I like, and I'm down with being a sub for a hot girl (t or g).

I see you take offence pretty easily, or perhaps you're just used to people here kissing your ass because you're a hot tgirl, despite the fact that your original post was nothing more than a truism or two...and a generalization or two.

Now, if you like you can tell me I've been a bad, childish, boy and need to be punished for my insolence.

[racquel]

kmi1 -

OK, so you quoted an entire paragraph where I was talking about guys who like domination porn. That paragraph began:

Originally Posted by racquel

A lot of guys like being submissive now and then...

Then you responded quite eloquently with:

Originally Posted by km1

Have to disagree with a lot of this. I'd post a whole wack of vids to prove myself right, but I'd get banned.

You didn't explain what you disagreed with. Perhaps you're talking about my statement that genetic females seem much more inept at domination and much more inept at fucking people with strap-ons than shemales are at fucking people with their penises. Well, that's your opinion, and maybe you have a video of a giggly tranny who can't get it up to support your position. Obviously there is lesbian porn out there that is legitimately hot and not a joke. But most lesbian porn -- including a few entire series that I've seen many parts of -- are basically ridiculous. The only genetic girl-on-girl stuff I've seen that flips my cookie at all is very few videos, mostly ones with Belladonna. Well, I like that old retro artsy almost soft-core Michael Ninn stuff, too.

Originally Posted by km1

Did I say I don't think a lot of guys don't like being submissive? No, where does this come from?

No, you didn't. You didn't say anything about what you disagreed with, and as we can all remember from 5th-grade English class, the first sentence of a paragraph is generally a summary of said paragraph, and I assumed that was the essence of what you were disagreeing with. Hence the confusion we're currently having. If you'd like to contribute, please do, but it appears you're more interested in arguing about nothing than actually saying something.

[WudLuv2try]

Flacopro : You sound just like me.

Except I found out about shemales a lot later than you did.

And except I'm now very comfortable with the whole thing...

It must've felt very good to write the post.

Good luck.

[km1]

Originally Posted by racquel

A lot of guys like being submissive now and then, and watching "shemale domination" porn is part of that. Lets be honest, most porn with aggressive genetic women is ridiculous. It's vinyl-clad dominatrix porn or girls fucking with strap-ons who obviously don't know what they're doing. There are whole niches of porn that I just can't take seriously because what I've seen of it never takes itself seriously -- like most lesbian porn where the best you can hope for is girls that want to show off for the camera but never truly seem to be into what they're doing and end up giggling half the time.

This is what I quoted before that I stated I disagreed with. So I'll repeat the exact same thing again except let's exclude the first sentence in bold that was quoted but shouldn't have the first time around. I disagree with all that is quoted except which is in bold.