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[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by merelypink

OF the current debt 10 trillion was under republican presidents(reagan,bush,bush)

Well almost. Depends on if you want to ignore inflation or not. Regardless, in his first month, BO racked up 2.5 times as much debt as Bush did in 8 years. You ain't seen nothin yet sister.

[randolph]

Perhaps a more realistic view of the national debt.
It is important to note that the climb in the debt in the Bush Reagan years had a lot to to with the necessity of importing oil. during the 1970s we could no longer supply our oil demand from domestic sources. In the future, it will be extremely difficult to have a balanced budget due to the energy deficit.

[Talvenada]

Originally Posted by randolph

Perhaps a more realistic view of the national debt.
It is important to note that the climb in the debt in the Bush Reagan years had a lot to to with the necessity of importing oil. during the 1970s we could no longer supply our oil demand from domestic sources. In the future, it will be extremely difficult to have a balanced budget due to the energy deficit.

RANDY:

Get ready for cherry-picking Tracy.


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[TracyCoxx]

Looks like BO had his lackey, Charles Bolden - administrator for Nasa, violate the law. Bolden was directed to shut down the Constellation moon program in spite of the fact that law was written that specifically forbids doing just that without congressional approval. Congress has not voted on this yet, and in fact two previous congresses (both democratic and republican run) voted in support of it. Therefore Consolidated Appropriations Act for Fiscal Year (FY)10 has been violated. Congress has sent a strong rebuke to both Bolden and Obama to cease and desist the dismantling of the moon program. Commercial companies like Lockheed, Boeing, and United Space Alliance, which somehow didn't meet BO's wishes for a commercial space company to build the rockets, will probably start suing the government now.

Again, worse than lying about a blowjob, so yeah, impeach him.

[randolph]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Looks like BO had his lackey, Charles Bolden - administrator for Nasa, violate the law. Bolden was directed to shut down the Constellation moon program in spite of the fact that law was written that specifically forbids doing just that without congressional approval. Congress has not voted on this yet, and in fact two previous congresses (both democratic and republican run) voted in support of it. Therefore Consolidated Appropriations Act for Fiscal Year (FY)10 has been violated. Congress has sent a strong rebuke to both Bolden and Obama to cease and desist the dismantling of the moon program. Commercial companies like Lockheed, Boeing, and United Space Alliance, which somehow didn't meet BO's wishes for a commercial space company to build the rockets, will probably start suing the government now.

Again, worse than lying about a blowjob, so yeah, impeach him.

Tracy, I wonder if you are involved with the space program. I have never felt it justified to send people into space. The funds could be much better spent on mechanical space exploration. Sending people into space is extremely expensive and the payback is limited. Sometime in the future we may have the technology to make it practical.
Anyway, Obama's cutting back on programs that provide jobs for highly trained people is nuts with the economy the way it is. What is he thinking? With millions out of work he wants to cut back government jobs?

Impeach? Are you serious? You want Joe Biden to be President?

[paulmal32]

Originally Posted by randolph

Impeach? Are you serious? You want Joe Biden to be President?

Or worse. Nancy Pelosi!

[Talvenada]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Looks like BO had his lackey, Charles Bolden - administrator for Nasa, violate the law. Bolden was directed to shut down the Constellation moon program in spite of the fact that law was written that specifically forbids doing just that without congressional approval. Congress has not voted on this yet, and in fact two previous congresses (both democratic and republican run) voted in support of it. Therefore Consolidated Appropriations Act for Fiscal Year (FY)10 has been violated. Congress has sent a strong rebuke to both Bolden and Obama to cease and desist the dismantling of the moon program. Commercial companies like Lockheed, Boeing, and United Space Alliance, which somehow didn't meet BO's wishes for a commercial space company to build the rockets, will probably start suing the government now.

Again, worse than lying about a blowjob, so yeah, impeach him.

TRACY:

Do you think Bush 43 should have been impeached?


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[TracyCoxx]

Originally Posted by randolph

Tracy, I wonder if you are involved with the space program.

Yes

Originally Posted by randolph

I have never felt it justified to send people into space. The funds could be much better spent on mechanical space exploration. Sending people into space is extremely expensive and the payback is limited. Sometime in the future we may have the technology to make it practical.

We'll only have the technology to make it practical by working towards space exploration. The technologies used on Earth will not make manned space flight practical. I could name lots of paybacks from the Apollo missions. And they were only a 'plant-the-flag' mission. Paybacks ranging from rechargeable batteries to medical technologies to the computer you're using right now.

Now if we went beyond the plant-the-flag mission of Apollo, like Constellation is designed to do, we will develop new technologies along the way, but also have access to Helium-3, which can produce the power needs of the country. We'll also have access to water, metals and other raw materials that can be easily brought to earth. People will have to work along with robots to make use of those materials.

Originally Posted by randolph

Anyway, Obama's cutting back on programs that provide jobs for highly trained people is nuts with the economy the way it is. What is he thinking? With millions out of work he wants to cut back government jobs?

Yeah, especially after his campaign promises supporting Nasa, and supporting the Constellation mission. And government jobs are completely safe. It's the contractors. 7000 contractor jobs at commercial companies in my state are in jeopardy, and thousands more around the country.

Look at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2IQVZmHnJQ

Originally Posted by randolph

Impeach? Are you serious? You want Joe Biden to be President?

Well I'm just comparing BO's crimes against Clinton lying about a blowjob for which Clinton was impeached. And the charges are mounting. Biden wouldn't be so bad. He couldn't possibly be as far left as BO.

Originally Posted by Talvenada

TRACY:
Do you think Bush 43 should have been impeached?

For what? If you're talking about the Iraq WMD thing, there was an investigation and he was cleared. People that try and blame that whole Iraqi WMD thing on Bush and Bush alone have a very short memory:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5p-qIq32m8

[Talvenada]

Originally Posted by TracyCoxx

Yes
For what? If you're talking about the Iraq WMD thing, there was an investigation and he was cleared. People that try and blame that whole Iraqi WMD thing on Bush and Bush alone have a very short memory:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5p-qIq32m8

TRACY:

You cannot think of ONE thing Bush 43 did? I have 118 questionable acts, and 30 impeachable ones?

Torture is a war crime when committed in WWII, and waterboarding was the crime. Starting a war deliberately. Bush 43 broke the FISA law with wiretapping, and this NASA thing is OUTRAGEOUS?

If you can impeach and convict Clinton & Obama, but not Bush 43 you are blinded by party loyalty and ideology. Are you also for a coup to throw out leaders you disagree with?

If everyone had a narrow view like yours, we would be better off with a one-party system.


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